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http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101050509/story.html


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Cody is Orsm :heavymetal:


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Cody is Orsm :heavymetal:


Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing - that's a great image. :monocle:


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Wow - Anakin is really reminiscent of Luke in ROTJ in that second pic.


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"We've seen it!"

"Darker, scarier, better."

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For a second there I thought that was Luke.


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For the record, although he disliked TPM, Richard Corliss gushed over AOTC - so for him to suggest now that both other prequels were weak is a gross inconsistency. Amazing how easy it is to flip flop when a perspective is perceived as unpopular :)


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For the record, although he disliked TPM, Richard Corliss gushed over AOTC - so for him to suggest now that both other prequels were weak is a gross inconsistency. Amazing how easy it is to flip flop when a perspective is perceived as unpopular :)


Yeah he did, I got my Time magazine out from when Ep 2 came out and he was all over lucas' dick in that article.


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I think a lot of people gushed over AOTC then changed their opinion. I did it myself. Mostly because of the 'it's not TPM' factor.


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Here's the rest of the article by Richard Corliss

Clever, indeed. After two episodes—The Phantom Menace (1999) and Attack of the Clones (2002)—that often dawdled in political filibustering and starchy line readings, after the fan base's outrage at the unfortunate Jar Jar Binks incident, Revenge of the Sith shows Lucas storming back as a prime confector of popular art. Again one feels the sure narrative footing of the first Star Wars, the sepulchral allure of Empire, the confident resolution of a dozen plotlines that made Jedi a satisfying capper to the original enterprise. True, Lucas can pack little surprise into a backstory that's obliged to complete the saga's circle in the middle. But there's an origami elegance to his folding of the old (new) story into the new (old) one. Sith will surely start a stampede to resee the 1977 film as a reminder of how the 13-hr. tale proceeds. Lucas is nothing if not an expert extender of his franchise.

Sith has some clunky bits—all the films have those—and some amateur acting. But McGregor grows and grays intelligently into the middle-aged Obi-Wan, and his fellow Scot Ian McDiarmid has a starmaking turn as Chancellor Palpatine. It is brooding stuff, the most violent of the series—it's rated PG-13—about the coming-of-rage of a classic villain. Anakin even has a bit of Shakespearean resonance: the conflicted Hamlet finding the grasping pride of Macbeth, the noble assassin Brutus festering into a yellow-eyed Titus Andronicus.

Sith begins in agitation with the opening crawl's exclamation "War!" and a zesty, muscle-flexing skirmish between a quartet of Federation droid attack planes and the Jedi fighters of Anakin and Obi-Wan. "This is where the fun begins," Anakin says. The lad is a hotshot aerial ace, a proto-Han Solo, with the ego and adrenaline that are the marks of a superb warrior and will breed a hubris that Darth Sidious can exploit.

The two Jedi find Palpatine manacled in the lair of the Sith lord, Count Dooku (Christopher Lee), an ally of General Grievous, the dog-faced, metal-skeletoned, prune-gutted—and computerized—droid leader. In the ensuing lightsaber battles, Anakin gains strength and focus from his anger and, instead of arresting his foe, executes him. "It's not the Jedi way," the lad says remorsefully afterward. But that taste of righteous fury will prove addictive.

After more escapes and escapades, the Jedi pair bring the Chancellor back to Coruscant, capital of the Republic, where Anakin is reunited with his love—and secret wife—Senator Padmé Amidala (Natalie Portman). She is pregnant, a condition that, if known, would mean Anakin's expulsion from the Jedi priesthood. Much more troubling is a dream he has in which, as he tells Padmé, "You die in childbirth." "And the baby?" she asks. "I don't know," he replies. [Readers who don't want to know the identity of Darth Sidious are free to skip the next two paragraphs.]

To Yoda, Anakin reveals his unease, though not its cause. "The fear of loss is a path to the dark side," the tiny savant observes. "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose." Translation: Loved ones die; get over it. That is counsel Anakin can't accept. He needs a different guru, so he turns, fatefully, to Palpatine, who has poison to pour into the young man's ear. To Anakin, it feels like honey, sounds like sagacity—because it is just what he wants to hear. The truth is that he can recite the Jedi catechism but can't feel it. He knows "the Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inward, only about themselves." Yet that is why Anakin is a natural Sith—and why he would make an ideal apprentice to Palpatine and the Chancellor's alter ego, Darth Sidious.

In the subtly insinuating performance by McDiarmid (here playing, 22 years after Jedi, a character some 20 years younger), Palpatine is a creature of dulcet tones and the darkest treachery. The sadness of his smile suggests wisdom gained at a heavy price. His soothing voice sells a seductive line of reasoning: that the Jedi are spurred by power lust and limited by their code. Thus he sets about achieving what the actor describes as "the coldhearted seduction and corruption of young Anakin." Palpatine is never more persuasive than when his life is at the mercy of the powerful young Jedi. By appealing to Anakin's need and greed, he turns the lad into Darth Vader and secures his own "unlimited power!" [Potential spoilers end here.]

In the movie world, unlimited power is what Lucas has. But when he decided a decade ago to expand upon both the story and the visual effects necessary to give it life, Lucas set himself two daunting challenges: to please an audience made picky by all the fantasies that followed his and to match or exceed the recent innovations in an industry he effectively created with the Star Wars films and the effects company, Industrial Light & Magic (ILM), he built to realize his fantastic galactic visions.

It was ILM's work with Steven Spielberg on Jurassic Park (1993), that convinced Lucas that more complex worlds could be put on film. "Jurassic Park showed that you could create things using a computer that were so realistic, you could insert them into a movie seamlessly," Lucas says. "It offered infinite manipulation of the image, as opposed to before, when you photographed something and were kind of stuck with that image. And it's infinitely cheaper."

In Phantom and Clones, as in the digital DVD updates of the first trilogy, Lucas paraded glamorous landscapes and a bestiary of chimerical critters—all to demonstrate his techies' abilities to make the surreal real and sometimes at the expense of the drama. Sith, with 90 minutes of animation (in contrast with 60 in Phantom and 70 in Clones), is less ostentatiously revolutionary than its predecessors. Rather, it's a consolidation of earlier breakthroughs. The climactic face-off between Sidious and Yoda is a potent, visually plausible merging of a human actor and a digital one. When an audience takes for granted the integration of live action and animation, the revolution Lucas pioneered can be said to have triumphed. If he has his way, soon all movie theaters will be junking film projectors and going digital.

Techies love working for Lucas because his movies introduced them as kids to the wonders of effects work; he was their Obi-Wan. He's savvy enough about the mechanics that he knows what's possible and so trusting in his staff that they will try to visualize the impossible for him, like the giant lizard Obi-Wan rides or the lava in Mustafar, where Anakin and Obi-Wan do battle. Lucas can mix all those elements in the editing room after the live-action scenes have been shot. "In postproduction," says visual-effects supervisor Roger Guyett, "he is creating the movie in his imagination, using visual effects."

Ben Burtt, who has designed the sound effects for every Star Wars film, says of Lucas, "He's always been more comfortable working in a private creative space than a public one. In the editing room, you have the time to try new things, and if they fail, nobody knows. That's how the creative issues are worked out. On a movie set, there are a lot of people and a lot of pressure, and you're paying a lot of money for every moment."

There are also actors, who may feel stranded as they stand before a green screen and try simulating eye contact with a monster that hasn't yet been created. "There's more imagination required than for regular movie roles," says Portman, "because it's not just imagining what's going on inside you. You're also imagining the environment you are in. A lot of times, you are working with a tape-marked X and imagining a blue sheet as a universe." Christensen adds, with a smile, "I wish they taught classes in green-screen acting." As for the veteran McDiarmid, he shrugs off the green-screen ordeal. "Movies are strange things with their own mad rules," he says. "You're always in a corner of a room, and the rest of the room is filled with lots of people."

In two weeks, lots of people will fill movie houses around the world to judge the latest and last Star Wars episode. True believers will debate and deliberate over each scene with the severity of a Jedi Council. The rest of us will breathe a sigh of relief that Lucas found the skill to make a grave and vigorous popular entertainment, a picture that regains and sustains the filmic Force he dreamed up a long time ago, in a movie industry that seems far, far away. Because he, irrevocably, changed it.

—Reported by Desa Philadelphia/Skywalker Ranch


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Can someone that has a subscription be kind enough to post the remainder of the "Q & A" with Lucas. I'm always interested in direct interviews with him.

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Take a look at those Time poll results for the best star wars movie.

ROTS is at 23% and it is not even out yet. And they said this movie hasn't got any anticaption.


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Here's the rest of the Lucas Q and A:

TIME: I think you've probably heard people say, "George doesn't really like directing actors. George doesn't really like being on the set and having the rub and scratch of egos and all that." Is there any truth to that? Is it easier for you to paint them on a computer?

LUCAS: No, no, no, it's not. People don't remember that every time you have a digital character, you have an actor. There's an actor doing the voice, or there's an actor on the set doing the performance with the other actors. He takes the place of the digital character. But you're still dealing with another human being, you're still trying to get a performance out of him, you're still doing that part of directing. I work with actors. I've always worked with actors. Francis Coppola taught me how to work with actors. Now, Francis takes them home to dinner. He lives with them. I'm a different kind of guy.

But I know a lot of directors who are far less communicative than I am. Am I less comfortable on set working with actors than I am in the editing room trying to put it all together? Yes, I would say that's probably true. Am I by nature a shy person? Yes. Have I kind of overcome my shyness to do things that a shy person shouldn't be able to do? Yes, of course I have. But people think of me as a sort of pathological, Howard Hughes-type guy sitting in a hotel room, which is definitely not so. I mean, you've known me for years. It ain't even close to that.

TIME: No, but everybody says, "Well, he's up there on the mountaintop, and he's all by himself—Mr. Mystery."

LUCAS: Yeah, but there's thousands of people here. I wish I worked by myself—it would mean the overhead's much less. But part of that comes from not being in a media center. I'm not in L.A., I'm not in New York, and therefore I must be out in the wilderness, sort of sitting in the Himalayas somewhere. San Francisco is not the wilderness. We have a nice little film community here. We make movies we're very proud of. We're not alone, and we may be liberal, but we're not completely crazy.

TIME: All right now, George, I've been hearing about these movies you're going to make since I first met you. In 1977 you said, "I'm gonna go off and make my little art films." What will they be?

LUCAS: I've got a whole binder full of stuff. Which one I'm going to take on first, I have no idea ... I know I'm going to produce a film about the African-American fighter pilots—the Tuskegee Airmen—during WW II. I've been working on that for 15 years. I've been having a very difficult time getting a script on it.



Like everyone who makes movies, I'm always convinced the next one will be a flop ... [that] it probably won't make any money.

— GEORGE LUCAS




TIME: And?

LUCAS: I'm going to go off in the direction that I was really interested in going off in when I was in film school—films like Koyaanisqatsi, films that are a little more abstract in nature. It's vaguely in the land of music videos, I guess, but I don't even know how to describe them. I'm going to deal with themes that have always interested me and are vaguely esoteric in nature. But I'm going to try to make them dramatic. I'm going to try to make them emotional. How they're gonna turn out, I don't know. I know they won't be mainstream movies. Fortunately, I have built my facility here to work in. I've set aside a chunk of money to do my movies—that I figure will last me for 10 years, when I'll be seventysomething and I should probably quit. I'm sure they'll be just as criticized as Star Wars films are. I'm sure some people will be just as devoted to them as the Star Wars films.

I'm also going to do some TV shows. I love television because it's not important. You get to do really great work, you really get to focus on the work, and all this megillah that goes on around it is gone. And you get to explore your interests, and it doesn't have to be that important. I want to get out of doing anything important.

TIME: Except maybe one last Indiana Jones movie.

LUCAS: You know, I said three's fine. And then I came up with an idea I thought was brilliant, so I told the other guys [Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford], and they kind of flipped out. It's vaguely in the realm of the supernatural. We have to accept the fact that Indiana Jones is an older man. But it's been hell getting a script out of it. Steven is committed to shooting it next year. I just got the latest script yesterday.

TIME: You don't have that many watersheds left, no matter how old you live to be. So, let me revert to my first question: What does it feel like bringing the Star Wars saga to a conclusion?

LUCAS: Well, I had mixed feelings about being George Star Wars Lucas. That was a hard thing, but I did finally accept the fact that there was probably nothing I was going to do with the rest of my life that was going to change that, that I might as well live with it. It's not the worst thing in the world. If that was my shot at some kind of vague little mark on history, hey, that's not so bad. That sort of led to saying, Well, if I'm already George Star Wars Lucas, then it doesn't make any difference what I do from now on. I've cleaned up the first three to the point where I am happy with them now. They may not be perfect, but they are as perfect as I can make them. I'm proud of the second three movies. People may not like them, but I'm proud of them. I never in a million years thought I could finish the whole story. In its course, I've done a lot of things I wanted to do, taking themes and stringing them different ways in different tones through different times—recurring elements twisted in different ways. And I've managed to do something that I've always kind of been fascinated with—doing something over 12 hours instead of two. What it really comes down to is, I am a happy man. What else can I tell you?


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I completely agree with you Rawhead.


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So far TPM is the best by far.


:lol:

Sure.


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I read the Making of Ep3 book when it came out, and liked it so much I went out & got the ones for Episodes 1 & 2. They are not written quite as well, but I have to say that after reading them all I have a much greater appreciation for George and how he's put these together, and I'm a lot more forgiving of the things I personally found annoying or distracting in the films. For example, the dialog. Lucas stated how all of his dialog is themed around 1930's western's & serials, and I think the "wooden" acting and unusual scripting is exactly what he wants. And his attention to visual detail is staggaring. He really hasn't ever made any of these for the fans (mabey parts of them, but the movie as a whole), they have all been his movies. I really have to respect that, especially when most people in his position would have used the film's popularity to just crank out movies with mass appeal being the first consideration.

It's too bad more directors & writer don't have the resources to make movies like this.


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There are lots of reasons ESB is always known as the best movie. It has better acting, editing, cinematography, music and direction. It's more mature, especially in the writing, and the themes it expands upon from ANH are fleshed out brilliantly, especially with Yoda and the Force. There are so many more things at stake, so much more peril and danger, and the characters affect us so much more than they do at any time in the series, with the exception of the 'Dark Side beckons' scene in ROTJ.

Of course, ESB is my favourite movie of all time, and I think is an absolutely fucking amazing example of creative and technological synergy, so I'm going to say that. But it's safe to say that a lot of people feel that way, everyone from that guy who bought every TPM figure to the most respected film critics around the world.

It's cool people like TPM more, or any other episode for that matter, but as an amazing work of art, there's no way ESB is overrated.


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I agree with Charles,

to say Empire is 'overrated' as a defense against people you think are bashing the prequels is rediculous and pretty ignorant.


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Wow - Anakin is really reminiscent of Luke in ROTJ in that second pic.


My thoughts exactly. :heavymetal:


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woot ROTS is so close!

tbh time has flown.. i remember just after xmas thinking "omg its like 5 months away"

and in no time.. its here :O

can you guys remember when you were younger.. and 5 months felt like a lifetime?

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The problem with ESB, as great as it is, wouldn't be crap without the great ANH and the very good ROTJ. It has no ending and no beginning. It's rests on everything in the two films that sandwich it.


I agree it rests on ANH, ROTJ much less so. But then, so does THE GODFATHER, PART II and it's pretty universally considered the best in the trilogy.

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The music in ROTJ and it's editing is at least as good in ROTJ. So is the acting.


Here's where I tend to disagree. The music in ROTJ is great, but it's not consistent enough for me, but that's because I have great hatred towards the Ewok themes. The editing in ROTJ is one of my biggest problems in the movie - it feels like it goes on forever, and has a pretty strong opening and a great ending, but all the middle stuff just feels way too slow than it should. ESB is pretty slow-paced in some parts, but it goes like wildfire when you watch it, to this viewer anyway. It also doesn't have some of the choppy editing the other movies have. The camera is allowed to really linger, and it really has an edge to it from the editing the other flicks don't have.

As for the acting... Hamill and McDiarmid I'll take on the chin, especially since I think Hamill is underrated in the movie (as well as the others) but Fisher and Ford are totally phoning it in. And there are a couple of times where I get thrown out of the movie because of how stilted they seem ("Han!................................ hurry.") It's pretty well illustrated to me by the scene Luke and Leia have on Endor where Luke leaves. If not for Hamill and John Williams, that scene would be a killer. Even now it's considered a horrible scene for a lot of people, but I think it works mainly because of Williams' cue (like a lot of scenes in the movie).

Whereas ESB has great performances by all the main cast, a fantastic non-speaking performance by Peter Mayhew (who deserves WAY more credit than he gets for body language) and probably the best performance in the movie by Frank Oz.

Not to mention John Hollis and Des Webb!


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That was a pretty good read, if a little on the fluff side. I like to see interviews where GL opens up a bit and lets us into that mysterious noggin of his.

I'm sure he has plenty on his plate to keep him busy, but we all know how GL feels about his starwars baby. Give him ten years or so and I'll bet he'll get bored with his little art films and tv projects and then he'll come back and say, 'I meant to do 3 trilogies all along, and now my friend Steven Spielberg can get to direct one.'

Oh, yes. It will happen. Not that it should necessarily, but no one in the business wants to see a cash cow like starwars disappear as long as there's merchandise, tickets, and DVDs to sell. I'm afraid Starwars is destined to eventually end up falling down the Startrek hole of shame. It's the way the business works. No one in the movie industry retires at the top of their game, not when there's so much more $$$ to make. Starwars is no longer just the crackpot idea of a burned out USC film grad. It is a dynasty, and no dynasty ever just goes quietly into the sunset. They moan and roll around in pain as they gasp for just one more lungfull of air, hoping to stay alive just a little longer to see the fruits of their labor.

Hate to sound cynical, but starwars is about $$$ to the people that make things happen in the world of commerce. There will be a sequel trilogy, even if that means the FOX executives have to lay seige to Skywalker Ranch and force GL to sign on the dotted line.


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I was at a Star Trek con about 10 years ago. The MC on stage asked, in order, what their fave Star Trek movie was by applauding. ST V actually got applauds (and laughs).

I watched TPM the other day with my daughter. I couldn't belive how bad the movie was.

First off, you can't understand what the fuck the Gungans are saying. Very poor choice in voice acting and scripting.

Second, there seems to be a lot missing in terms of the Trade Federation. It's as if the guys at Target set up a blockade around every Wal*Mart there is, and nobody cared: "Oh, MAYBE the State of California will side with us if we could just get from Los Angeles to Sacremento with a little layover in San Jose for parts.". Err...

Lastly, the movie lacked the same spark the original three movies had. Very few people understand how fucking groundbreaking Star Wars was. TPM almost makes you wonder if Lucas fell victim to his own success by not being able to come up with something new and original. I wouldn't even want something groundbreaking for the PT, but I think that the market in general has become so saturated with special effects movies with grand soundtracks that TPM really didn't stand out like SW, ESB, and RotJ did.

AotC was better for me because the real story started to take place. I liked it a lot. It actually started to show some of what was shrouding the Senate instead of some vague references in TPM.

But, to each his own I suppose.


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i liked ATOC loads

the ONLY parts i objected to were the awfull lovey dovey scenes between anakin and padme and the slightly stupid geonosian droid factory bit (R2 flying :|) but apart from that it was great!


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Chilly wrote:
i liked ATOC loads

the ONLY parts i objected to were the awfull lovey dovey scenes between anakin and padme and the slightly stupid geonosian droid factory bit (R2 flying :|) but apart from that it was great!


Honestly the only scene I would like to see completely cut from AOTC is the "anakin riding the shaak" scene. Looks like total crap.

I realize the film has a few problems which makes in imperfect, but I still really dig it a lot.


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ah yea that scene blowed aswell... but that was part of one of the lovey dovey scenes i was talking about lol

its like lucas was having a really bad day when he made those scenes...

it still was a good film though.. at least lucas got rid of jarjar (sorta)


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AOTC and indeed the whole PT would be significantly improved if much of Anakin and Padme's relationship had developed off screen between I and II. AOTC should have began with them already involved in a secret romance (or at the very least realistically attracted to each other over time) and could have still culminated with their secret marriage at the end.

This would have improved the horrendously awkward love scenes and given Anakin's actions in ROTS a little more weight and believability. I don't buy that 'love story lite' stuff that GL spouts. Poor character development is poor character development.


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That Time magazine issue also has interviews with McGregor and Christensen. Could someone post the interview with McGregor? He gives his reaction to the movie. Sometimes Ewan is honest about the SW movies, so I like to read his interviews.


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I'd hate to call ESB overrated, Empire is unquestionably the best made film of them all, so far at least. TPM had a lot of depth that people didn't understand and Lucas didn't do a super job of conveying, but is underrated. AOTC likewise gets shafted by the media. I'm already sick of the whole "I liked ROTS but didn't like the first two!" bullshit. Just tell us if you liked the new one or not and shut the fuck up. Why are critics so hellbent on fitting in?

Also should be pointed out AOTC was originally well received, but then again the media went all anti-Lucas and even the ppl who dug it at first became sour towards it in hindsight.


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Manny I agree whole heartedly!


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