i figure as long as theres a warning, sure. or maybe a porn avatar?

half the avatars in this place are barely work safe anyway.

its like "hey, star wars nerds, no need to over-advertise your heterosexuality here. nobody cares. you're never gonna get any anyway. an animated gif of a girl rubbing her breasts together isnt gonna help."

yea you know not being able to use mf at school, the library, other people's houses, or sometimes even home is really quite annoying. but I guess mf isn't that important anyway.

Hi

I'm a project manager on what i believe will be the first adult themed commercial quality MMORPG (http://underworld.wecometoplay.com) and I have been trying to find a decent design for the main (female) in-game NPC.

I have used various Heavy Metal artists work as a template of sorts but i still havent goten the look i want exactly.

THEN I saw Jotun 's Avatar and knew that that was exactly the ratio and look I was going for for the main female NPC. Unfortunately, i PMd Jotun and he didnt recall who the model was or WHERE he even got the image/video from.

I have tried, hopelessly, to find out who that model si to no avail. I would give ANYTHING to know who the model is that he used for his Avatar or where I could find a video clip of that model so that i could get more images and use them as the basis of a 3D model for my game.

I am begging for any help at all if anyone has a clue who that is in Jotun Avatar or where I may find a clip of her. Thank you

Actually, yes the characters will be able to have sex with one another. That won't be the main focus of the game, it will have a deep story and will even have some new/unique gameplay elements that have nothign to do with the adult content.

But YEAH the main draw of the game will be the sex. It seems nobody else is working on a decent quality Adult MMO (www.sociolotron.com isnt very polished). I think teh sex will guaranteee that the game turns a profit, but really I just want to make sure its profitable so i can add lots of new game features without worrying about how they will hurt the bottom line.

One of the coolest features (besides the sex) is the fact that there will be an actual Underowlrd in the game that spans the various mythologies in game (norse, indian, greek, sumerian and celtic at launch). WHen a player character or primary NPC dies, tehy go to the underworld (for their specific mythology) that they have to work their way back from.

It helps a lot in the game design to prevent "boss camping". I'm most excioted about the fact that the game will be as close to 100% historically accurate to the Mythology as is possible. (although it remains to be seen fi we we will actually have a 500 door hall of valhalla).

But sex there will be and yes... there will be sex! (strangely enough all the women on the dev team want there to be non-consensual sex and all the men think that would be a bad idea.. go figure.. guess thats what happens when your art coordinator is a goth bdsm submissive bi)

anarchy online was one of the games that i used for a template. it had some interesting points to it. it was the only MMO i played (besides Ragnarok Online) while I was doing the main design.

I think probably the coolest thing in Underworld (besides the sex.. and the Underworld itself) will be that magic users actually have the ability to change/control the weather on a zone by zone basis. Weather affects weapons range, visibility, and of course vampires and other creatures (such as demons, frost giants, etc) are affected by it.

The power levels of magic users determines how long they can affect the weather and if they are able to change it once it has been controlled by an opposing magic user. It should be pretty cool to see a fire and ice wizard battling one another.. the weather changing back and forth.

or another example is a bunch of swordsmen attacking a bunch of archers and the attacking wizard calling down a dense thunderstorm with fog to make the archers useless.

should be fun indeed. and of course.. theres the SEX

AO is the shittiest MOORPG out now.

it was the free one out now, which is why i played it. it got pretty damn boring after a small spell. there are a LOT of things i didnt like about it. but i did like a lot of aspects of it as well.

im trying to find all the positives and negativces of every MMO i can these days so i know what to put in and what to leave out. right now, however, i'm mainly concerned with women's viepoints only. i KNOW pretty much that teh fact that the game is adult alone will draw men. And I AM a man so i know what I want.

What I would love to know is more of an idea of what women would want to see in an MMO. What features turn them off? Turn them on? I obviously have some clue already and have done my research, btu i would love to know more.

WHy do you think AO sucks so much, by the way? (I personally hate the way monsters (i hate teh term mobs.. to me that would mean one or MORE monsters) just basically stand in ONE place all the time). With ALL MMO I dislike the fact that the mosneters don't seem to hunt one another..

In your game can the monsters can have sex with each other, and maybe the character itself. That would be sweet.

I know what you mean. I had to uninstall AO from my hard drive because it was eating my valuable Episode III and gamemaking time. There are so many things i dislike abotu teh way Lucas implemented teh Star Wars movies, but they still rank (along with Dune and LOTR) in my top three list of detailed and deep sci fi worlds (JUST counting the OT + PT not even including EU)

I always look to Star Wars as reference of the correct way to implement your own world in an organic way (even though technically my game will be comprised of textbook perfect existing Mythologies from aroudn the world glued together with some Lovecraft and Masamune Shirow style sci fi)

P.S.-sorry for all the typos.. im lazy when i can afford to be

DUNE OWNS ALL

To be honest, one of the things that influenced this game was me thinking about classic erotic vampire movies (like Vampyros Lesbos) from the 1970s and Anime/Hentai (like Urotsukidoji (Legend of The Overfiend in the U.S.)).

With that in mind, yes the in-game NPC/monsters will be able to have sex with each other and hunt each other. Player characters will also be able to have sex with NPCs as well.

As I may have said before, the lack of the ability to do that (have sex and see characters having sex with each other) was one of the main reasons i am making the game.

Notice that that focus of the game will not BE sex. But because the game is based on 100% accurate world mythology, there will be lots of sex between mosnters and characters and with each other, etc.

In Greek, Celtic, Sumerian and Hindu Mythology there is a LOTTTTTTTTTT of sex in fact. More than you may imagine actually. And that will be represented in game. There will also even be systems of magic and somethign similar to teh force, which will be based on sex (The Chinese Taoist power seen in Hong Kong Martial Arts movies is heavily related to sex and Yin Yang are often sexual terms. There are also Hindu forms of spiritual ability that are heavily based on sex.)

So yes, there will be roughly the same amount of sex in the game as there is in mythology (more than most people think, however, since they don't do much mythology research)

As in real life (before the advent of christianity of course) and in the Dune series of novels, there will be several "Jedi" type classes composed of only women. There will also be Shaolin type classes composed of men of course.

In many ways women will have more innate psychic power than the men though. This is a concept that showed up in Dune but somehow escaped both JRR Tolkien as well as Lucas. Strange that... I dont't understand with JRR Tolkien, but with Lucas at least, I can blame his reliance on Joseph Campbell (who himself focused on mainly on male power).

It is interesting to note (in the Newest OT DVD release extras) that Lucas was originally going to have LEIA be the hero and only at the last minute shifted the heroic twin (child of Anakin) to be Luke instead.

I studied Sufies a lot growing up and my poetry is heavily based on Jalal Al Din Rumi. The Sufi philosophy (and bedoin culture from which it sprang) was a heavy heavy influence on the Dune series of books and the Fremen themselves are a not very well disguised version of the spiritual bedoin tribes of northern Africa.

Among the Bedoin their skin has a blusih tint from the dyes they use on their clothing, which men must wear from head to toe. While in Dune their EYES are dyed blue by the spice melange.

Wow! that's an excellent question. Once that after planning for several years, I didnt think about... There are many different character classes in game from Jotun (Ice Giants) to Dwarves. They all have different size physiques.

I didn't actually plan on letting player characters choose their penis size seperately. I did however, plan on characters being able to alter their penis size (similar to what happens in the movie Urotsukidoji, where a human exchanges his normal penis for a demonic one that has teh ability to grow in length)

Therefore, characters (generally demonic ones) will be able to gain the ability extend their penises (or other tentacles) similar to the way archers gain attack range in other MMORPGs.

I doubt that i will ad the ability to choose penis size independently because.. well.. WHO would choose a smaller size anyways? But you have given me somethign to think about.. I never thought about that. I feel stupid now.

In retrospect, i would never attempt to not allow women to forgo the option to choose breast size. So I suppsoe I may have to allwo penis size adjustment of some amount for male players. hmmmmmm

Im actually pretty far into the dev aspect. We start coding and such in May, that's when my official payroll starts being handed out to coders and artists. Right now i am just finsihign up tyign up loose ends as far as design and gameplay elements goes.

For example. Somethign like what you suggested, I have to break it down into code and programmign logic and then pass it to my lead programmer so he can approximate how long he feels it will take him to code it into the engine (I don't use any fulltime people, because i do code, audio engineering, 3d graphics and writing.. its faster to just send specific things out on an hourly basis to coders and artists)

I just went public, however, because i feel that now, with our beta planned for May 2006 there isn't any way another company could beat us to the punch with a competing product of sufficent quality.

So now I am trying to get as much feedback and input as possible from the hardcore fans. Questions and input like what you said is what i'm looking for. Id rather get those sort of things out of teh way than hear abotu them after the game is done and say "gee i should have thought of that"

there are a LOT of detailed design details available on the forums for the game (found through the website at http://underworld.wecometoplay.com registration is required to read/post on the forums)