MF Board Notes • UPDATED • The Death Of Wat Tambor

Ternian

Hey folks.... Just a quick one: Tblog revealed that GL is going to be blue in RotS. This is correct. The Baron escorts his blue daughter, Senator Chi Eekway, to the Opera.

Ternian.

Faid · Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 445

Let's hope she doesn't look right in the camera this time.

Ternian · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:37 am Post subject:

Baron Papanoida = greedy trade baron = GL.

Hmm... :chewbacca:

Bandersnatch · **OBGYN** Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 2856

Ziggy · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:45 am Post subject:

AOTC= She was the chubby twilek in the "Sports bar" checking out Anakin.

Bandersnatch · **OBGYN** Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 2856

Yeah I know that's her, but I don't recall her looking into the camera.

SkyWard · Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 147 Location: PHX1138

Indiana · Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 178

Yeah, Rick is quite the liar: http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/rick/askjc20020114.html

Bandersnatch · **OBGYN** Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 2856

Toggle · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 35

hmm.... Senator Chi Eekway is in Labrynth of Evil as a member of teh Loyalist Committee. . . Is this the first time that one of the Lucas kids' cameo characters got EU nods?

Blah. I don't care about Lucas's cameo. . . . What I really want to know about is EGGPLANT PARMESAN!! Is he a baron in the Marinara Sector beyond the Provolone Rim?

pjvader · Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:

MKUltra · Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 35

The thing I don't like about cameos is that they pull me out of the movie for a brief moment. But from the looks of this movie, who cares? It's stil going to kick arse.

Wrath Mania · Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 367

Hey Tern, I'm not sure if you know anything about this, but Pabs said in his most recent Q and A that Palpatine is not ancient, in fact, he's not much older than Ian Mcdiarmid's age. Yet we've been led to believe that Palpatine is infact quite older than he appear.

Is that untrue? Or was Pabs just talking about PALPATINE in particular and not SIDIOUS?

Ternian · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:06 pm Post subject:

* Palpatine is not ancient. He's normal age:

PALPATINE
...has never run since he was a boy on Naboo...

* The picture of Threepio with Padme on Coruscant. Imagine she's turning her back to the camera and Threepio moves towards it - and you have the exact "I feel so helpless" trailer scene.

* Trees on Kashyyyk are called wroshyr trees.

*
PALPATINE
Lord Vader, your skills are unmatched by any Sith before you.
Go forth, my boy. Go forth, and bring peace to our Empire.

*

AMIDALA
I am no happier than the rest of you about this, but I've known Palpatine for years; he was my most trusted adviser. I'm not prepared to believe his intent is to dismantle the Senate.

MON MOTHMA
Why should he bother? As a practical matter as of this morning, the Senate no longer exists.

BobTheGoon · Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 275

Wrath Mania · Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 367

My suspicion is that Sidious did kill Plagueis, but I guess the whole cheating death thing was bullshit.

I assumed that that was true, as it would be the nature of the darkside to not accept the natural circle of life and use the force for selfish gains and to prolong your mortal life for as long as possible. Ultimately, this is just false immortality, not the kind that the Jedi can find after death.

But I guess that's all out the window. And I guess the only reason Sidious's face goes bad is just because he uses lightning.

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Lord Seafood · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:35 am Post subject:

Beware clonetroopers in Jedi robes... (you'll know what I'm talking about when you see the film...)

Ternian · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:

Some more:

*
YODA
My failure, this was. Failed the Jedi, I did.

*

YODA
A moment, Master Kenobi. In your solitude on Tatooine, training I have for you. I and my new Master.

OBI-WAN
Your new Master?

YODA
Yes. And your old one...

*

MON MOTHMA
All right. Then Terr Taneel would be my next choice. And, I
think, Amidala of Naboo.

BAIL ORGANA
Padme? I am not sure.

MON MOTHMA
You know her better than I do, Bail, but to my mind she is exactly
the type of Senator we need. She is intelligent, principled, extremely
articulate, and she has the heart of a warrior.

BAIL
She is also a longtime associate of Palpatine. He was her ambassador during her term as Queen of Naboo. How sure can you be that she will stand with us, and not with him?

MON MOTHMA
There's only one way to find out.

Slug · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 691

So it sounds like Qui-Gon does teach Yoda & Ben the secret of living beyond physical death.

So when Ben tells Vader in ANH "Strike me down & I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." Basically saying you can hurt me physically but you cannot stop a spirit of the living force.

kremzike · Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 397

You know what i've gotta wonder now? If Qui-Gon teaches Yoda and Obi-Wan the secret in between ROTS and ANH, then when, and more importantly how, does Vader learn it & join the Force when he dies in ROTJ? I'm thinking that won't actually be explained ever. Not that I will care too much if it isn't, but it'd be nice to have that explained. I can think of a couple possibilities, but having one official explanation would be ideal.

AchillesLastStand · Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 29 Location: New Jersey

It's because of the whole love thing. Anakin did love already, I think thats one of the reasons it was made that love is how they do it. That way it doesnt have to be shown how Anakin learned the trick. Thats probably really why they did the Hayden change in ROTJ, so you see it is the Anakin that loved Padme that became the ghost. Its really simple what I'm trying to say, but I dont know if I'm wording in correctly :weed:

edit: oh and yea I totally agree, a real offical explanation would be better. George gave a sort of explanation on the ROTJ commentary, but in light of this new revelation some detail would be good.

Salacious Crumb · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 45

I like this emerging picture very much.

The fact that Yoda and Obi-Wan remove themselves from the scene to meditate, comtemplate and learn is very biblical. It recognises that the Jedi now need to reassert humility into their vocabulary; that what went before came close to arrogance and overconfidence (Mace?).

The parallels with the Sith in the PT are striking too. Two of them, in hiding preparing their reemergance. The difference of course is whereas the Sith impose a perverted and twisted notion of power and the Force on the galaxy, what Obi-Wan, Yoda and -ultimately- Luke do is completely subvert that through a simple doctrine of "love" and sybiotic coexistence with the world around them. Back to basics.

Slug · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 691

I think Achilles nailed it pretty much right on. It does come down to the love factor. Anakin always loved Padme, when she died he thought his child or children died too. He felt that there was no reason for him to be Anakin Skywalker anymore. So as impulsive as he always has been, he makes the decision to turn fully into the dark side.

As far as him learning the Force ghost trick, I figure that its not really a trick but just allowing yourself to feel compassion & unconditional love for any & all things in the universe. Qui-Gon was that way & he taught Obi to be that way. Now between trilogies its Yoda's turn to learn. But with Anakin I feel since he was the Chosen one & was created by the living force that it (the living force) is able to grant him on some other level the ability or as a reward for bringing balance back to the force.

Just food for thought.

Ternian · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject:

More:

* Han Solo was suppose to be in RotS. You'll see the concept art in the upcoming Art of book. He was suppose to be raised by Chewbacca on Kashyyyk.

CoGro · Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 1930 Location: Toronto, Canada

Lord Seafood · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject:

grumblegrumble · Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 4

LeM · Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Around here

It could be tied with the "love and compassion" stuff around the Jedi giving themselves to the Force. Think of it, as Vader grabs the Emperor to throw him down the reactor core, he's not Darth Vader anymore.

Anakin takes over Vader, giving his life to save his son. Talk about an act of compassion hay guys

vanillazinger · Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 446

Han raised by Chewie? Right, 'cause they always had such a father-son dynamic going. Dumb. I'm with Fatboy, that was probably no more solid than General Grievous being an evil child or Jar-Jar's heroic death. Concept guys are paid to throw ideas against the wall.

Master Larvell · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 31

Evil_Elvis · Joined: 16 Apr 2004 Posts: 128 Location: Glasgow, Scotland

The Rick McCallum interview from Total Film (March) definitely suggests that they were trying to work Solo into ROTS but they seemed unsatisfied with how it would pan out. That would jibe with the supposition of him being raised on Kashyyyk by Chewie which for me is one of the worst ideas for ROTS I've heard yet.

The whole idea that Solo was potentially in Yoda's company before Luke just doesn't sit right with me at all for some reason. I think this idea is best left to EU along with the Wookiee enslavement idea.

Lord Seafood · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject:

vanillazinger · Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 446

Doesn't make it less dumb.

Besides, wasn't the old story that Han spent some of his childhood around Wookiees? That's a far cry from being "raised by Chewie."

devolver · Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 64 Location: Fort Worth, TX

IF han had been exposed to yoda...the only explanation for his line about flying from one side of the galaxy to the other and seeing nothing to prove the force to him (i paraphrased) would be if yoda had acted silly, farted, and han witnessed it.

Both of those ideas (han being raised by chewie) and yoda farting are two of the worst ideas I've ever heard of for star wars, whether they were thought up by Lucas or not.

Sometimes, other writers come up with something much better than Lucas did...and the han solo origin is one of them.

ObiTrice · Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 630

oh god not the fart crap. Another Josh "Spoiler". stupidest thing i have ever heard....

Ternian · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject:

Something special

SHU MAI
We were promised a reward...a handsome reward!

VADER
I am your reward. You don't find me handsome?

Devil Dodo · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 407 Location: New Zealand

lol, this IS a joke right?

DoubleSith · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 514

VT-16 · Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 942 Location: Norway

If that dialog makes it into the movie, I will die a happy man.

BearnBird · Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 250

Lucas sure hasn't forgotten the cheesy lines in this installment either it seems. Might actually be worse than "Aggressive Negotiations" from AotC. Wink

ObiTrice · Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 630

forget hayden. insert nat strip scene flashback! I think its hilarious. Shu Mai = what kind of alien?

Ternian · Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:

For Jotun and his walking arse:

OBI-WAN
You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy the
Sith, not join them. It was you who would bring balance to the
Force, not leave it in darkness. You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you, but I could not save you.

-----

SAN HILL
Welcome, Lord Vader! On behalf of the leadership of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, let me be the first to...

VADER
Very well. You will be the first.

VADER removes his hood and ignites his saber.

SAN HILL
You're Anakin Skywalker!

VADER digs his saber into the chest of SAN HILL.

VADER
The resemblance is deceptive.

CoGro · Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 1930 Location: Toronto, Canada

DoubleSith · Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 514

Holy Crap! whoa

That dialogue is classic Vader.

EDIT: Ternian posted this over at TFN:

femme01 · **Charming to the last** Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 929

Misfit · Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 56 Location: Orlando, FL

^Definitely. I've been looking forward to this scene ever since I first heard about it, and it keeps getting better. I love that Vader dialogue.

PTGrievous · Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 586 Location: Hell

Ahahahaha, that's awesome, the Shu Mai exchange.
I'm going to love this massacre

odj_310388 · Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 71 Location: UK