I've searched the forum and did not find any mention of this (regarding a past BTH pic), so I thought I'd bring this up here.

The BTH pic entitled "Deadly Craftsmanship" describes the people of Tion Medon's homeworld as "arms manufacturers", also using the term "martial of surfaces".

The use of the terms "arms" and "martial" might have a dual meaning here. Does anybody think that perhaps this is a pic of General Grievous' arm, since we know that Utapau (aka Tion Medon's homeworld) is where General Grievous was built/repaired, or perhaps is this further confirmation of that fact?

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/memb ... 41111.html

New ones up The Mighty ARC 170 fighter", or whatever...nice clean shot of it (think the BTH picture, fully rendered) Looks more X-wing when it's a still shot than in the trailer when you saw it for that split second.

Pretty cool picture, nothing we havn't seen but cool to get a close up.

Teaser trailer shot.

New one is up. It's the Nos Monster that lives in the grotto's of Utapau. We first saw this as a painting in SW Insider a few issues back. I really like it, much more exotic looking compared to the AOTC beasts. The cg work looks good too, imo. I assume Obi-Wan will get the honor of tangling with this fellow.

Looks a bit dorky, but I'm sure he'll look great in context and giant and whatnot. Was that production art the right scale, I wonder?

I thought the Nos was supposed to be a rock monster...

You're thinking of DP's avatar.

Just wanted to make a comment regarding the "CG face or not" argument from a few pages ago for the "Jango's Legacy" pic.

It's probably CG bacause we know from Set Diaries (or was it Post Notes) that ILM is digitally combining Temuera's and Bodie's faces to various degrees to make clones of many different ages and "batches."

But CG or not, the shot's great, reminds me of Yavin....

I'm liking the slight changes they've made to the Juggernaught design, namely changing the "spotting tower" so that the center dorsal gun can fire by it (a flaw in the ESVV design)

Actually, since that´s an ARC pilot he would get sucked out of his fighter, not a warship. Think the TIE pilot flying off in ESB.

Agreed... although, is it just me or does Sidious look like he has man boobs in that shot?

Other than that, he looks pretty cool in that lighting.

What a coincidence.

He looks exactly like the new ESB holo.

He certainly does have Phil Mickleson boobies...

... but it's a great shot, definetly the best BTH so far.

It looks like he's getting ready to zap someone with lightning. What if he could do that using a hologram too? I know that won't be the case but imagine the look on their faces if did do that.

DAMN THAT NIGGA'S HOLOGRAM JUST KILLED SOMEBODY, CUZZ!

Heh, It won't happen but the idea is not too far-fetched. Lucas considered something similar for TPM. In one of the earlier script drafts, Sidious while communicating as a hologram force choked Daulty Dofine when he started arguing with him.

Vader does it via view screen in ESB. I mean, no one has said it happens in Revenge of the Sith, but it wouldn't be a stretch if they wanted to make it happen...

Even though this BTH is like the definition of something we already knew and pretty much have already seen before, it's still the best one yet. Palpatine is gonna kick ass in this movie.

This is very discouraging to me.....

Actually, no, they aren't average films. And anyone who knows anything about film will tell you the original trilogy are not average films. They are great films. No, they might not win dialogue or acting awards, but those are very small aspects of films, that stupid critics that know nothing about filmmaking completely blow out of proportion. People who know diddley about film come out of the theatre and say a movie was "well made" if the "acting" and "dialogue" were "good". THese people don't know shyt about film. There are a million more important things to a movie, plot, structure, narrative, editing, montage, cinematography [framing, composition, lighting, movement], use of sound, etc., etc., that are all much more specific to the medium of film and largely ignored by general audience and certainly critics. Star Wars, particularly the OT, thrives in all these areas.

The dialogue and acting in the original trilogy still are solid, however. They are not great in the PT, but in the OT, I defy you to find an instance in which the dialogue or acting hurt the believability of the films.

ANH, ESB and ROTJ are great films, without question.

I shall continue...

"Classic, of course. Great films? No. They have many problems.

I'm not saying I don't love them. And I'm not "tearing they down" just to make the prequels look good, because I love the prequels as well. I'm merely pointing out that people complaining about bad acting and the like in the prequels seem to have a short memory. "

No. Classic and great. The acting in the OT is perfectly fine, even if it weren't, the films would still stand out. George Lucas knows a lot about film and a lot about myth, and contrary to what you will read by crappy critics that don't know shyt, he is a pretty great filmmaker.

What separates the PT from the OT has nothing to do with acting or dialogue. They are both B movies on the surface, mythology underneath, and the result is this corny feel that is perfeclty intended. How is that bad acting?! It's not. It's just for some reason everyone expects films to be the same style...Lucas is making his films modeled after Republic serials, and the dialogue and acting successfully mirrors his inspiration. They are not "bad".

What does separate them? Story. Structure. Editing. Etc. It has nothing to do with acting or dialogue, to say that is the difference btwn the PT and the OT in order to ward off complaints against the PT is lazy, silly and just wrong. I love the PT, but whenever they fall short of the OT, it's in these areas.

I'll say it again: ANH, ESB and ROJ are great films. Period.

Actually, Lucas has used the concept of a Sidious long distance Force choke before. On an early draft of TPM, Sidious Force chokes Daultay Dofine via hologram when he is contacted the first time.



It's on the old TPM Insider's Guide CD-ROM that came out back in '99.

EDIT: Sorry Thundercracker, for some reason I didn't notice your post before making mine.

That is your opinion,

I remember showing my wife the OT right before TPM came out, to judge if she would want to go see the TPM, she had seen snippets over the years of the OT, but never actually sat down and watched it..and had basically little opinion of it, other than she new it was very popular, and SCI-FI which she couldn't care less about.

All in all she thought the OT was entertaining, and said she could understand how it has such a large following, she thought ROTJ was kind of aimed at kiddies.

I took her to see TPM on opening day...she told me, that she thought it was incredibly boring compared to the other movies, the characters other than Liam had no appeal or charisma compared to the other movies (or something close to that) she thought it had the best special effects of all the movies, but she thought it was inferior.

I took her to see AOTC, and her response was it was incredibly hokey (reffering to the romance) and basically thought it was the worst one.

I'm biased toward SW, but my opinion is basically the same as hers, except my favorite is ESB, her's is ANH.

You realize, of course, that this entire discussion is subjective. You tell me that anyone that knows anything about film will say that they're great films. Yeah right. No matter how great a film is, you can always find someone that says it's crap. There is NEVER a movie that is cheered by every critic, every peer director/writer/producer in hollywood. Star Wars flicks are great movies in my OPINION because I love them. But if you go almost anywhere on the net besides a Star Wars site you'll find people who say they suck. Who's to say that EVERY single one of those people that hate the films know nothing about film?


I'm happy with my definition of the films. So maybe they aren't AVERAGE films. Maybe they're above average (they're certainly above most of the drivel hollywood puts out these days). But they're not GREAT films. There are things about all five of the movies that aren't great. Granted, there are more of those moments in the PT thus far, but that doesn't mean the OT is devoid of those moments.

Also, I brought up the acting specifically because whenever I see someone complaining about the prequels, it's always one of three things (or all of them): Jar Jar, the writing or the acting. Leaving Jar Jar out of the equation, I was simply pointing out that the writing and acting in the PT are just like the OT: good enough.

Maybe Lucas is making the Force choke power exclusive to Vader, perhaps that's why he ditched the idea of Sidious doing it in TPM.

First, whehter or not you enjoy a movie is what is subjective. But there is a standard on which movies can be judged objectively on the aspects I mentioned. And in those aspects the OT is great.

If you are so certain the OT has all these flaws, enlighten me on how it is not a great film.

Personally, to me it appears the OT are without a doubt great films, particularly ANH and ESB, and it just looks like you are making excuses for flaws in the PT that may or may not even exist.

What standard? If there is such a set standard, it would clearly have many important uses... like determining the winners of The Academy Awards. And last I checked the nominations for those awards are based on the votes of their peers. Directors vote for best director, etc. And since there end up being 5 nominees and not just one that every director voted for (because by the standards it was clearly the best), the set standards are nothing more than opinions.



Oh please...

I don't know you and apparently you don't know me. Ask almost anyone here and they'll tell you that I've been nothing but a huge fan of the PT for the last 4 years on message boards. But being a fan doesn't mean I have to be blind and/or deaf.

If you want to continue to believe that the Star Wars movies are perfect films, that's fine. None of my business. I and others (including lots of people on this board, I'm sure) don't agree. Like I said, it's subjective.

Luke can do it as well.

Oh ya, forgot about Luke. Well.. maybe exclusive to the Skywalkers? Unless we see Palpatine or Dooku use the Force to choke someone then it'll only be Vader and Luke that pull that move.

well here my idea on the force choking.

vader cant do the one cool sith trick.. force lighting, prolly has to do with fring out his suit. so he makes his own trick..

Wow Sidious looks great in this pic. Seeing him (ok as a hologram) finally in a finished shot like that makes him look 100% better than the publicity shots we've seen IMO. The way his eyes seem to sink back into the gloom, much better. He just feels like the same dude from ROTJ... and that makes me warm inside.

Although he looks quite barrel chested from this angle, doesn't he? I'm sure that's only because this is a sill from a moving shot, but has the Dark Lord of the Sith been working out?

star wars is more than a film, and as this site completely shows; the acting, or writing isn't what has millions of people eagerly anticipaiting the final installment of it. This is if nothing else a great story, perhaps the greatest story of our lifetime. What I think speaks volumes for these movies is that the images created were so powerful that low budget or unknown and "green" actors couldn't even stop it from captivating audiences all over the world. Very few movies have trancended cultures and languages to the point this movie has and to consider it anything else than a masterpiece is ignorant.. Get close enough to a painting like the mona lisa or the sistine chappel and you will indeed see that it was created by human hands and is slightly flawed, but they are nonetheless incredible works of Art. Great films do not have to be liked by everyone but I think there are enough fans of this one to classify it as one of the greats.

Those breasts are made out of latex methinks.

I'd bang her.

I love the updated thread title: Twilek Ho

Priceless. That's why we keep coming back.

I don't consider myself a huge nerd, especially when it comes to stuff like this - but what's with the veritable Crayola box of colors for these tentacled bitches?

Georgie is going all Mick Jagger - "Green/Blue/Red/Flesh Sugar... how come you taste so good"

Those boobs aren't real...you know that don't you? Kidding!

Sorry, as a woman I must say that - it is in my genetic make-up...

show us yours

i feel another twilek costume malfunction might be coming our way!

those gotta be the biggest, in star wars. since jabba the hutt.

This reminds me of a song

"No, Put your titties on the glass!"

New One Up

Caption -

Looking For Trouble

Their flagship penetrated by Jedi invaders and an agitated General barking out orders, these super battle droids are itching to kick some astromech as they inspect the main hangar bay. (Digital work by ILM)

Looks Very OTish[/b]

Sweet! NEW one's up...

it's Grievous

looks good

Excellent shot of GG. He looks so good.

damn hyperspace. can someone describe it at least. I poor...

Obitrice, because I am in a good mood check your pm.

Grievoulicious....

That picture is more photorealistic than I imagined was possible for Grievous. Very good news.

Don't his arms have to split open first? Or perhaps they are but you can't see it from that angle....

either way, it is directly before his death, yeah.

Wish somone could make Wallpaper from this... that'll be excellent.. butguess you really cant with BTH pics aye

god, GG looks freakin real. Fuckin awesome job ILM!!

what exactly is going on in the shot? whats he doing etc. details please! cant wait to see this guy!

He's doubled over in pain, about to kick the bucket courtesy Obi-Wan.