I don't think Obi and Palps leave Anakin on his own though. In that BTH pic of Artoo, you can see Obi-Wan and Palps in the background and they're on the bridge.

Ahh...good point. Forgot about that pic.

D'oh! My mistake. I totally forgot about Grievous' quarters. I got the bridge and his quarters confused as one in the same.

I havent seen that pic, can someone show it to me.

It is a before the helmet picture.

I know some ppl have a tough time believing this is a final shot... Even I thought it may have been from the game. But upon closer inspection I noticed some details that would have not been captured in concept art or even the game.

Look in the upper left corner to the upper right of the display panel. There's reflections rendered in the cockpit glass and it appears to be Obi-Wan and what looks to be another figure to the right (just in front of the trade federation command ship in the background).

Also, to the person who pointed out the neimoidian behind GG... When I pulled the picture into photoshop to analyze it I found that this, while neimoidian, is mearly the pilot... The command chair is directly behind the bodyguard on the left - you can see the top of the seat on the left side and another pointy hat to the right of the guard's head.

-Terrormaster

Looking at it as a whole, this looks like their first encounter with the General - the part where the cut through the floor and end up in the engine room. Judging from whats going, the ship is still high in the atmosphere and is stable. GG looks like he's opened his cloak and is choosing his poison to perform a sinister act (like killing a jedi - perhaps shaak-ti was replaced with another jedi and will be killed here).

-Terrormaster

When is the new Insider coming out....

anyone?

Listen to spoilers rather than bash Lucas

I prefer photos...you can match stuff up.

That too :P

The General looks wicked cool!

I don't know much about CGI, but I thought LotR was far more realistic than AotC.

That´s because WETA had a lot less CGI to work with in the first place. And because SW locales are filled with things that fly around, while Middle Earth is relatively "down-to-earth" and desolate.

Did anybody notice in Obi-Wan's Bio it says he is a jedi master and is on the Jedi Council. This is new info isn't it?

Nope, sorry.

I heavily disagree.

I can't seem to understand why people feel this way. I think it's cause in AOTC you know 90 percent of what your seeing isn't real. Moreover, fans see so much pre-production and production footage that the final product loses its weight since mentally you've already seen the truth. The LOTR films are shot on location and the effects dont overwhelm you the way they do in Star Wars. People tend not to experience the process of LOTR as they do in Star Wars. There's no abundance of blue screen, no fantastical environments that are foreign to us and therefore you can identify with the LOTR movies on a much more realistic level, as posted above.

That being said, from a technical standpoint, ILM is leaps and bounds ahead of WETA Digital. People praise Gollum, and while he IS an impressive acheivement in digital effects, he is not nearly as detailed as any digital character in the PT. WETA's texture mapping is not in high-res as it is in Star Wars, their cloth simulation is not as accurate and their matte work is dreadful in some places (litterally early 80s matte work - There's a few shots in TTT and ROTK that I couldn't believe they OK'd to go to print).

Nothing is going to convince either side's preference, but from a technical POV, WETA is behind. Peter Jackson will even tell you that.

Try here:

Online eye exam

I don't care about the character. I'm talking about photorealism. Gollum suffers from intense motion blur and matte problems. He never looks in the shot, always painted on.

Compare Watto to Gollum and in ANY shot and Watto blends in much more realistically. you can argue all you want, but you're wrong. Plain and simple.

I'm glad that's all cleared up. Who wants pie?

I can't seem to understand why people feel this way. I think it's cause in AOTC you know 90 percent of what your seeing isn't real. Moreover, fans see so much pre-production and production footage that the final product loses its weight since mentally you've already seen the truth. The LOTR films are shot on location and the effects dont overwhelm you the way they do in Star Wars. People tend not to experience the process of LOTR as they do in Star Wars. There's no abundance of blue screen, no fantastical environments that are foreign to us and therefore you can identify with the LOTR movies on a much more realistic level, as posted above.

AotC was not 90% fake - sorry. Both films used similar techniques.

That being said, from a technical standpoint, ILM is leaps and bounds ahead of WETA Digital. People praise Gollum, and while he IS an impressive acheivement in digital effects, he is not nearly as detailed as any digital character in the PT. WETA's texture mapping is not in high-res as it is in Star Wars, their cloth simulation is not as accurate and their matte work is dreadful in some places (litterally early 80s matte work - There's a few shots in TTT and ROTK that I couldn't believe they OK'd to go to print).

Whether or not ILM is more technologically superior to WETA is far from the point. It's whether or not at the end of the day the CGI passes as real - and SW failed with this, IMO.

- ILM must certainly have more experience than WETTA - this is an assumption not based on fact and does not also mean that they are a better company - just something to consider if true.

- Dont laugh at me but when I first saw AotC I didn't know much about the movie (besides the general story), any webdocs I saw were after the fact and when I heard that the clone trooper in the battle scene with yoda where cgi I was totally shocked and had to view the footage again and still could not tell the difference.. maybe I'm just not pedantic enough to notice the differences and I'm sure the general public share a similar view.

I fully enjoy both series and like the effects work of both companies.

I never understood this whole "My franchise has a bigger dick than your franchise!" thing.

I like LOTR, Spiderman, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Terminator, the Matrix, and a whole slew of other movies and franchises. I guess I win.

You're not alone.

I'm pretty sure this thread is about the new Grievous pic.


Not Gollum, Watto, Jar Jar, ILM and WETA.

So if we combine this Grievous image with the BTH entitled "Short Circuit" can we conclude that R2-D2 zaps General Grievous with electricity, thus distracting the droids and giving Anakin and Obi-Wan enough time to cut down the droids behind them?

The conversation between Grievous, Anakin, and Obi-Wan should be interesting. I suppose the Jedi will ask about the Chancellor while Grievous will talk about claiming their sabers.

I wonder if Artoo zaps any important ship controls. I bet when Anakin and Obi-Wan run for the elevators, Artoo closes the bridge door to prevent Grievous and company from following right away. To show that Grievous can use a saber, it would be cool to see him cut open the bridge door when the Neimoidian Pilot fails to do so.