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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 1:01 am

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It's fucking HUGE

It's a joke.
M$ want to RELEASE it in 2006.
Without a Hard Drive, backwards compatability and good games, it's just going to get slaughtered by Sony's PS3 and Nintendo Revolution a year later.
Those are theoretical specs.

The ArtX ATi Team (responsible for Radeon 9700/9800, GCN GFX Chip) is working on Nintendo Revolution's gfx chip, not the Xenon.

On another note, Microsoft STILL won't see profits from the XBOX until 2006
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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 6:42 am

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DKR1138 wrote:

PS3 and XBOX are being release roughly around the same time... and PS and Microsoft know the specs of each other so they're gonna chanllenge each other in same areas, some more than others, we'll probably get two consoles pretty much equal in power with of course there own seperate features... anyways its a bit early to argue the better... they still have some time to deadlock the systems for production... don't worry MS and Sony aren't going to let one console be better than the other... hense the theory they'll be about the same... anyways if MS wants the vantage they'll just push the release at a later time to enable furthur development... as you know PS2 has been out longer than XBOX... leaving XBOX with a larger period to hold out... its all a waiting game...

No.
M$ wants to release NEXT YEAR (I made a mistake, their target release is 2005, not 2006)
Sony WAS going to release the PS3 next year, but since Toshiba's Cell CPU is not progressing as well as they'd like, they're delaying it to 2006/2007 and covering up with "We believe a five year console life span is too short", even though they're the ones who enforced it, Nintendo wanted 8 year life spans, but they can't follow that because of their competitors. Work on Nintendo Revolution is well underway, and they're going to release shortly after Sony.

MS and Sony do not know each others specs.
Nintendo Revolution will change games forever - you have been warned.

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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 8:32 am

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DKR1138 wrote:

ahah go smoke your Toad hash pipe... Nintendo is gay with consoles... well they never used to, but they do now (there desicion making and choices of design are just plain BAD), I mean Nintendo would have been still on top... but there dick weeds, you do know that the Playstation was second hand technology Nintendo was getting developed instead of the N64, instead they said no, went with the cartridge... Sony (the developers of the technology that was going to be used for the new Nintendo) used that instead of scrapping the technology, made there own console (the playstation) and look at were they are now, still kicking the Nintendo into remission... there consoles are never going to see a good comeback... a come back yes... but not a good one, they gave up there chance of getting into the high game years ago the moment they said no to CDs for there next generation console...

anyways either way ill probably get XBOX2 and PS3... because im a matual fan of both consoles... they both do good jobs and are very appealing...

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KitFisto

Posted: October 30th 2004 9:41 am

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DKR1138 wrote:

roll ya eyes all ya want Nintendo royally fucked up...

Not really :p They are still making money. Something that can't be said for the Xbox.

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derek

Posted: October 30th 2004 2:41 pm

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pt grievous i have the feeling you are a nintendo superfriend

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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 7:48 pm

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Even if Microsoft isn't making money their machine is completely superior to the PS2 and Gamecube in terms of machine capabilities and games. Although I think Sony did a fine job with the PS2.

Oh really, is that why NOTHING on XBOX can hold a candle to STAR WARS: ROGUE SQUADRON III: REBEL STRIKE, THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER (Jet Grind Future wish it had awesome cel-shading and animation like Zelda), F-ZERO GX, METROID PRIME 2: ECHOES, RESIDENT EVIL 4 and THE LEGEND OF ZELDA 2005

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KitFisto

Posted: October 30th 2004 8:19 pm

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Listen you can't argue all you want, it is up to the individuals to chose what system they are going to purchase. I like my GameCube very much. I enjoy Mario games, a game, for me, doesn't need to be violent to be fun. I enjoy Tetris, that isn't violent. I'm not anti-violence, I own UT, Halo, Jk2, Battlefield 1942, among others. The reason I got a GameCube is for the Nintendo games, I love MarioKart, 1080, Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Melee, etc. I'm sorry but just because a game is kiddie doesn't mean it isn't good.

I can't stand GT games. The physics is really god awful. In most of these games I end up crashing most of the time. I have a drivers license, and I drive regularly, I have never hit anything.

I have been tempted to buy a PS2, they have a few good exclusives. Not enought to get me to buy the system.

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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 10:20 pm

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Halo, Grand Theft Auto Vice City, Midnight Club 2 and Knights of the Old Republic are better than all those games you mentioned.

Hahahaha, take a look at gamerankings.com - lots of people disagree with you :P
But I mentioned those games because they look a ton better than 99% of XBOX games, and you tried to tell me XBOX is more powerful :P
Realistically... apart from Splinter Cell 3 and a few others, there's hardly anything impressive on XBOX. Resident Evil 4 wipes the floor with ALL of your examples - and it's ALL real time.

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but it's all basically the same thing

You mean like Halo 2, GTA: San Andreas, KOTOR 2?
Good one :sarcasticthumbsup
Nintendo tries to make new experiences by experimenting with various gimmicks whether their fans like it or not (waterpack, cel-shading, etc.)
So your argument is terribly flawwed.

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when I worked in retailed a lady asked me which console was the better, GC, PS2 or XBOX, I said to here the better console was the XBOX for graphics, but its game range wasn't as big as PS2's yet (which at the time was and probably still is bigger) and then said GC is the less superior console and told here the only real games she'd ever see on it was the ones on shelf, because there all pretty much the same (haha I thought that was funny)...

You didn't help her because you don't know what the hell you're on about.

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- but ever since the NES/SNES period they just started to re-filter the same games, and characters threw there lines and haven't got creative at all with anything...

They're ALWAYS creating new franchises. Pikmin is probably one of the best things to come out of this generation! But you'd never know that.

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at least with XBOX and PS2 alike they've spawned a whole new batch of charaters and original games...

You say it like Microsoft and Sony create Halo and Metal Gear themselves :roll:

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KitFisto

Posted: October 30th 2004 10:23 pm

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DKR1138 wrote:

... but other than catering for things I already like so far Nintendo haven't really produced anything else thats any good...

If you go solely on first party games, Nintendo makes much better games than Xbox or Sony. Xbox bought Halo, Sony don't know what they have made honestly.

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PTGrievous

Posted: October 30th 2004 10:50 pm

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Sony don't know what they have made honestly.

Sony bought Polyphony, they make GT4.
SCEI doesn't make many titles though.

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Daglington

Posted: October 31st 2004 1:28 am

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Meh, I got the GC, and never really enjoyed the game selection. I'm not a big gamer, so it doesnt matter too much, but still, there just wasnt too much out there. And damn was it impossible to rent them from the video store.

Seems to me that PS2 and XBox had more games, more variety, and more availability.

And in the end, whats the point of making a system if people are limited in their ability to use it?

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KitFisto

Posted: October 31st 2004 1:52 am

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I don't understand all the hate ... GC is a solid system with good games. You don't like them, just because you don't kill someone and the average rating are E/T doesn't mean they are bad. Have you played any GC games ? I have played GTA, didnt like the concept and the controller layout was horrible. I liked Amped on the Xbox, but 1080 turned out better IMHO.

I miss not playing BattleFront.

Xbox is expensive though. Just to play online it costs money.

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dylan

Posted: November 1st 2004 1:12 am

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Console Wars

C'mon, the XBox should have been named "The Little Celeron That Could".

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Justin

Posted: November 3rd 2004 4:10 pm

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I had a ps2 and GC I ended up selling my ps2 and buying a DVD player for my movies. I own quite a few GC games and enjoy it quite a bit. I find it gets a lot of play at parties etc. And these are all adults playing these so called kiddie games. People play what they like I don't see why so many people get wrapped up in the image of a console.

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dylan

Posted: November 3rd 2004 5:30 pm

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KitFist0 wrote:

Xbox bought Halo,

They bought the whole company, Bungie, which was a mac game company. Halo was in production to be released for mac before the MS buyout. How's that for irony?

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KitFisto

Posted: November 3rd 2004 5:58 pm

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mcdermd wrote:

KitFist0 wrote:

Xbox bought Halo,

They bought the whole company, Bungie, which was a mac game company. Halo was in production to be released for mac before the MS buyout. How's that for irony?

I know.

I cry myself to sleep every night. Long Live MARATHON.

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KitFisto

Posted: November 22nd 2004 5:45 pm

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Anyone think there will be a Halo 2 Xbox bundle or a Battlefront one ?

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