Fatboy's caveat about this being a rough cut is the most important thing being said in this thread.

It is important to note that looking upon raw, uncorrected footage without a final sound mix or music cues or final CG will utterly destroy almost all your expectations about any film.

I previewed Chronicles of Riddick in Tempe, AZ before most of the CGI was done and the score, and was blown away by just the scope of the story and the editing they had then. I told everyone about an intense scene. The total OH SHIT moment of the movie. I was so excited about it and posted about how much I loved the movie on TCOR message boards.

When July finally came around and I got to view the final cut, the OH SHIT moment got cut. I was pissed. It actually ruined the movie for me some what. (Actually alot of scenes got cut. ALOT.) All the hype that I got from that one scene was no longer there and I felt like a fool for sticking up for TCOR (even though I still think it's rad). That's the case with rough cuts and I'm sure Revenge of the Sith will be no different. Still it's fun to see the editing process.

On a side note: TCOR DVD has a director's cut and I'm hoping the deleted scene gets put back in. They basically cut it because of pacing, but for me the pacing was lost in the final edition.

Anyway, just saying I agree about the spoilers being not that major, although exciting, but again, the same thing happened on Episode II. Remember when Dooku was promounced Doh-koo? I told everyone that and then when AOTC came out it ended up being Doo-koo. I felt so stupid. I never tell spoilers I read on the internet to anyone anymore. I think I've heard George Lucas still pronounce it like that, though.

Doh-Koo.

I hate to sound like a clone but Josh actually is a fucking prick.

Yeah you reading this you wank bastard? You know who this really is? Good because you're a wasted cumshot on a hairy transexual hooker that couldn't afford laser hair removal. And oh yeah revenge will be sweet. Not just the movie, but the kind of revenge that'll bite you on the ass from up high and make you rethink some of your decisions.

What comes around goes around. It will all balance out in the end and you're just confirming that.

Do you guys really think that this Yoda farting business is due to the fact that the Jedi chow halls are filled with spicy food or just that GL has demonstrated a fetish w/ fart jokes (ala TPM)? I wonder how bad a Yoda fart would smell anyways. If Yoda cut the cheese in front of a Padawan it must be embarassing for the learner to keep a straight face. Of course if the Padawan acknowledged it openly Yoda would laugh and probably say something to the effect of: "Judge me by my size do you? Do not underestimate the power of the Farts! Much wind I still have... "

Thanks TC for the smackdown - the thread has been pruned and re-opened - albeit with B's initial comments left intact.

I'm all for having a fansite no matter who they are possessing the movie. It took the Official Site a year to confirm Utapau and Mustafar.

The Official Site can shut down geocities and livejournal sites with Insider scans on them but they can't stop the movies getting out

Not that I wouldn't mind a peek, but honestly, it would be a major disaster if a rough cut was made public. Terrible for the movie.

Agreed. I'd want nothing to do with it.

Yeah, think I'd be steering clear in that case too.
Might watch a couple of the complete scenes though.....

The movie is out. Judging by Scott's comments he has seen or possesses it or both. What ScottJosh can do (if they didn't do already), is transcribe the movie's dialog and scenes into text format.

Griffen should put the movie's transcription up on theforce.net's Episode III scriptment section that LFL made TFN take down before it was even public.

There's "out" and then there's public. An Ep3 rough cut on Kazaa would be a disaster.

But yeah, it would be nice if he (or someone in that leak path) would dish some serious meat. We'll see what he does in the next week.

FR please take note: http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2142

The above posts were in this thread and grr...

AICN's Quint
http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18690

GOONS on TFN and Episode III
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1305037

when i read it on aicn i felt the urge to register and tell them all to gloss over the fart gag and just read everything else then i thought better of it as they all seem to be lost causes over there
they wont admit to liking ep3 even if they love it

:heavymetal2: Fricken sweet :heavymetal2: FINALLY Someone with the Scripts is about to spill it. Everyone be watching TF.Ns board Nov 1. I for one may have to actually go on over to TF.N just to see Josh spill his guts. SWEEEEEEEEEEET. :heavymetal2:

Anyone heard about this pic he says he has of Palpatine in the Sidious make with his saber, standing back to back with Anakin with his Saber, its a promo pic being passed around some forums.

The problem with Josh letting these great nuggets of info out in ambiguous answers is that the morons over there come up with idiotic theories. Case in point: JG said that Anakin is not pushed into nor does he jump into the lava. Well, the minions believe that Anakin is just badly splashed by the lava now, possibly from PADME FALLING IN. Gimme a break. Maybe he just FALLS IN. I know, difficult to understand.

That board would be great if it wasn't for the fuckin' posters. (and yes, I know I stole that basic line from 'Clerks".)

I never heard anything that stated he was going to release the script. Besides, who said he has the script? I don't think he does.

I'm hoping the rough cut doesn't see the light of day. IF it did, I'd avoid it like the plague. That's just my opinion though....

Yeah, I agree. It probably looks like crap. Some parts would look like a videogame with the early JAX stuff. Probably not a good thing for most people to see for a first impression.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon at this point but Joshy claims via PM that Rohan Nichol will play Captain Antilles. Just in case there was any confusion on the matter...

Thanks.. Did someone say they got a PM over at the at JC or did you get the confirmation?

It's being passed around via PM. Apparently he doesn't want it posted at the JC. Since this isn't the JC then it's ok to post here, is it not?

Good look

very much agreed

Scott saw it too?

They always tend to focus on the negative aspects of any SW related news there. All this cool spoiler info revealed and they decide to focus on Yoda farting. How is this much differnt to when Yoda played the fool in ESB anyway? Those guys are anything but objective about the way they choose to disseminate information. And their movie reviews are more biased than all of the corporate plants that regularly contribute to the site.

Their site is an overly politicized crapfest anymore anyway.

I haven't watched ANH since, well since the DVD came out. So not that long ago. But I didn't think Captain Antilles was old enough to be a Captain 19 years prior?

Ah well. Even if he's called by name in III, it'll still be mostly an EU thing, as no casual fan is EVER going to get the connection. Yes, I know that Threepio says that "Captain Antilles" was their last master, but I don't give the casual Star Wars fan that much credit. :p

Has there been any serious speculation that Rohan Nicol wasn't playing Captain Antilles?

Aren't you dead?

Turned out to be a false rumour.

I know there was a bit of talk when the casting announcement was made last year but wasn't that shit put to rest

Also, I dunno if this has been made public yet, I haven't seen it written anywhere, but I can tell you for sure that Rebecca Mendoza's role is as Bail Organa's wife, who in the final scenes is left holding the baby. Well, one of 'em...

I'm guessing Leia!



Seriously, no I haven't heard that, but then again I don't get jazzed by the less obscure confirmations eg. Rebecca Mendoza's role.

i have to say if i could get my hands on it i would, though it should only stay within the SW community and the diehard fans that want to see it. if it got into the hands of the pikey chav no good non cinema goers who have no idea what it is and sell it down the car boot sale for £5 i will personnally hunt rhem down and shoot them in the face just to see what it looks like. that said I WANT IT NOW!!! i love workprints just for the historical moment in time of the movie at that point that u will never see again! sounds stupid but i enjoy them

anyone PM'ed him to find out who tarkin is played by? actor/prosthetics?

Pretty sure Tarkin is played by Wayne Pygram.

Vote NO! on rough cut '04!

But write it all out so we can drool.

Not only has Josh hinted at having the Rough Cut, or at least seeing it, but also to having a fair amount of Pictures never seen before, including one of a shot where Palps and Anakin clash sabers during the Mace duel.

He also has said he has seen/has acces to a rough cut screenplay to the script. Now, furthermore for those who dont know at TFN whenever something cool comes out they suppress it and it has to be passed around via PMs with people making you say "pretty please" and shit about it just to find out what everyone is talking about. Well i logged in yesterday and sent out some PM feelers, it seems Josh is gonna post his 'review' on Nov 1. The day he officially steps down as editor.

It is also quoted from Josh that he will be 'spilling his beans Nov 1'. I myself PMed him with a few questions, he answered one which was of little consequence "Does Yoda come accross as a bit of a wuss, or chump at the End?" "Well i havent seen all there is to see completed, and especially not much of the Yoda duel, so i reserve my judgement, and just wait a few days" was the reply. He spilling something Nov 1st. Thats for damn sure.

He said they were together with sabers lit, not clashing.

But I'm glad he's spilling on the 1st. That should be an interesting read.

i hope he expresses his thoughts on the film in a clear,consise and thoroghly intelligent manner rather than producing some stuffy sheep diatribe.( aicn has made me weary of that sort of thing)

I'm hoping for a Episode III report with a little more substance than the 'Tidbits' that have been secreted about TFN's boards recently by Josh. I understand the reasons for having to take precautions in doling out spoilers over there, but the bottom of the barrel has been truly scraped by the last batch.

Here's to more of the 'good stuff on November 1st.

nope, its just a promotional shot like the previous aotc/tpm grey background ones with them standing back to back (there is a ROTS obi wan grey background that leaked ages ago too)

Your right, that picture is a promo shot
But there is also a shot of them clashing, alot of ppl from TFN have been asked to not post it because its too much of a spoiler, Josh has told ppl that Anakin at first isnt on Palps side. The Mods and Josh himself have asked ppl not to post about it and only a select few oldbies got this info, many of the mods at 3SA have been left out of the loop on this. Just trust me in a week you will see shots of Anakin striking at Palp.

This is a given, especially with fans at that site. And when they have their orgasms over certain scenes and they are left out or changed....let the childhood raping begin.

The AotC script surpassed most SW movies. T'was nearly brilliant.

The film was terrible (even though much more entertaining than most SW movies).

From the foolwhofollowshim on TFN

After a few days Sapient gave me the go-ahead to post this PM exchange I had with Josh Griffin.

10/23: I PMed Josh with this request...

Can you give any little nugget of information on the disappearing Jedi/Jedi spirit issue?

His response said who would explain this mystery in Episode III, where he would explain it, and in relation to who. Personally I was surprised by these details. Josh's exact response...

Totally explained in Episode III. Palpatine tells the whole story about Darth Plagueis during the ballet scene.

JG

um, ok

Compared to the script, SI.

So according to Griffin Palpatine tells the beans to Anakin relating to the force ghost during the ballet scene?

If true, that probably changes many peoples' perceptions that Anakin doesn't discover Palpatine's true identity, or at least a good idea of it, until the Mace posse fiasco.

Thing is, has anyone actually told or warned Anakin about the Sith and the dark side before the events of Episode 3? I don't think so.

So basically Palpatine could be like "there was this very wise man named Darth Plagueis who taught me everything about the ways of the Force. He was even able to prolong his life by using the Force. I can teach you, Anakin." After that Anakin(or anyone not aware of the Sith) would be like HELL YES.

And Anakin wouldn't know better because no one on screen has warned the guy about the dangers of the Sith/Dark side("Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate...leads to suffering"- great Yoda but doesn't it also lead to the dark side??). It's as if the Jedi are still scratching their heads and balls while forgetting to email the Chosen One and let him know to be careful.

So naturally Anakin falls for Palpatine's game hook, line and sinker because no one ever told him not to beware of the dark side and the threat of the Sith. Remember in Ep2 Anakin knew Count Dooku as being a former Jedi, not Darth Tyranus.

Ignorance is bliss.

The question is: How does Yoda and Obi-Wan know of Darth Plagueis' secret?

I'm guessing that originates from the Journal of the Whills and not Darth Plagueis. He's still a Johnny-come-lately compared to the Journal which would have been created many generations before him.

Yoda would come upon the Journal that probably explains how to retain one's identity before being destroyed but that doesn't necessarily mean the Sith know about it or else they'd be coming back as Sith spirits.

IMO the yin and yang of the situation dictates that the Jedi discover how to retain their identity to return as spirits while the Sith know how to prolong their lives. The same way Palpatine has and the same way he'll prolong Anakin's life after his battle with Obi-Wan.