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Post Posted: July 26th 2004 10:30 am
 
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Any sightings of the RIP on WINMX or KAZAA?


i wouldn't say that it isnt ;)


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i wouldn't say that it isnt ;)


I completely ignored what you said because I'm looking at your avatar. Who is that? :D

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I've been spending the last two days checking this stuff out, and it's very exciting. The movie looks beautiful, and so far I really like the changes. I would just ike to know whether or not the dialogue between Luke and Leia on Endor has changed?


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 11:14 am
 
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I completely ignored what you said because I'm looking at your avatar. Who is that? :D

Mike


that's me silly


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 11:29 am
 

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If ya did it via irc, you have these +'s.

1. Dont' have to share back, which in case if your on cable or anything slower hogs your line slowing your download.
2. Quicker download.
3. If your nice you dont' have to wait in line like the people that asked me nicely didn't have to :-p. And you don't have much luck getting the full dvdr on bt either :-p.


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 11:30 am
 
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man, my rotj bit torrent is just past halfway and I've got 10 hours to go :o *sigh* hopefully it'll pick up a little. Whats been your experiences with total times spent dl'ng the rip??



I'm at 55% with 9 hrs to go on the torrent, its been very slow.

I downloaded the whole thing off the newsgroups very quickly, but every rar was corrupted, and the PARs did nothing (they were corrupt too, i think).

I dunno why I'm dling anything now anyway, since I should be waiting for the DVD-R version instead...


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 11:36 am
 
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for everyone who has seen the ROTJ Rip,..have all th ematte lines and garbage mattes (white squares around ships) been clenaed up?


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For those of you complaining about the new Theed scene using a stock plate, be aware that Cloud City is also a reused stock plate from when Lando uses the intercom in Empire.

...

It's not out and to be honest I don't expect it this week.
If it's out, trust me, you'll know.


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 12:35 pm
 
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Is the dvd-r up yet on mIRC on nsane or any other channel?

cause the only files i'm finding are the xvid, which i already have


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aBa wrote:
that's me silly


Ok, I feel like a complete dunce, then :D.

You're easy on the eyes, as they say :).

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Careful, Starman. Don't go pulling a Crying Game on us. ;)


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Post Posted: July 26th 2004 1:26 pm
 

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Come on guys. stop turning this thread into a Tech Support forum.


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Come on guys. stop turning this thread into a Tech Support forum.


yeah, this is about Faid's sexy parties


Post Posted: July 26th 2004 2:00 pm
 
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this thread has become quit annoying. now its all help me get the file, whys it so slow, where can i get it, blah.

So back on topic, how did rotj leak and not the other dvds? and why does this apparently look like a work in progress?


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why does this apparently look like a work in progress?


Because the sabers for the luke/vader duel look untouched or even crappier than before, and the hayden ghost looks like an intern's rush job.


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I already have the first CD. I think the second one will be downloaded tomorrow...

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Well not counting the crystal clear imagery, improved sound, Hayden added at the ending Force Ghost scene, Naboo with Jar Jars on the rooftops inserted into the ending planet celebration montage, then yes nothing was really changed.

also...

GrandAdmiralSchmiggy wrote:
this thread has become quit annoying. now its all help me get the file, whys it so slow, where can i get it, blah.

So back on topic, how did rotj leak and not the other dvds? and why does this apparently look like a work in progress?


most of the offending posts are being removed i.e. "I'm at x%, can somebody hop on".
Please feel free to chat in the "Where Da Moviz At" thread.



Post Posted: July 26th 2004 2:56 pm
 

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which is why I'm not dowloading it


Them's some mighty sour grapes, Bacta.

Banth herd is old. But I think there are more ewoks in the end after the planet montage. I'll have to break out the SE LD's at home and check.


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ok, the changes that we have noticed so far, nowhere near a complete list!.......

*most matte lines are improved (hair on the skiff) or gone completely(rancor), most ofthe spaceship ones are only now really visible if u watch frame by frame

*vaders saber changes colour throughout the fnal saber battle

*the whole film has been colour corrected and digitally cleaned up (looks like it was shot yesterday) ulra fine details are now present (see the reqctor core detail)

*when anakin is unmasked his face has been "improved", no more eyebrows and it looks more "real" eye make up reduced scars softened all subtle improvements that some may not notice! including my friends who have seen this 100+times!

*the end celebrations now include a shot of theed with gungans on top of the towers a jar jar like voice can be heard proclaiming "wesa free!" the tatooine shot has colour corrected and the colours are much more vibrant and in keepin with episode 1 tatooine, the shot of coruscant now has the jedi temple and senate buildings added to the background

*the soundtrack has been remastered in dolby 5.1EX and now truly takes advantage of the rear center speakers (check out the attack on the core and speederbikes to be blown away!)

*sebastian shaw has been replaced by the episode 3 version of anakin as a force spirit joining yoda and ob1

*when bens force spirit startles luke on dagobah luke now says "fucking hell, u scared the shit out of me"

anything else i missed (i know there are loads!) im watching it again 2mrw ill make notes next time!


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well it's practically august and the thing comes out in september. why take up time and hard drive space when I can wait and watch it in surround sound?


Because it's out in Dolby 5.1 surround sound now. Looks nice on the TV.


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Any improvement in the mattes around the speeder bikes,..and the rods holding them up?


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miss bacta wrote:
well it's practically august and the thing comes out in september. why take up time and hard drive space when I can wait and watch it in surround sound?

mcdermd wrote:
Because it's out in Dolby 5.1 surround sound now. Looks nice on the TV.

miss bacta wrote:
still not downloading it


I'll wait for the hi-def hdtv with dolby digital 5.1 surround sound DVD. But only because I don't have a DVD burner. Why spoil myself now in low quality when I can wait a month and get it in "coal" quality?


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Any improvement in the mattes around the speeder bikes,..and the rods holding them up?


cant say i have noticed the rods! but i do beleive there are now no truly visible matte lines for the speeders (not including going thru frame by frame as they may be visible there) even on the fast shots, they have cleaned this up so much it now looks like they are chromakeyed in more so than 83 but still is amazing, they may have smoothed some of the motion of the speeders though it may be my mind playing tricks!
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Has anybody noticed whether Lando's black ass casts a dark shadow when he walks towards the Falcon after telling Han that the ship won't get a scratch.


as he walks towards the falcon he walks into the shadows becoming a silhouette but he doesnt throw any shadows onto the bigass painting if thats what u mean! and boy does the clean up make it evem more noticeable that it is a painting! they could have added some interactive elements somehere even if its just a light blinking or someting!!
im sorry if i keep coming across as moaning about the new rotj im not!! i am 100% in love with it and cant stop talking about it i love it more than aBa!


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Has anybody noticed whether Lando's black ass casts a dark shadow when he walks towards the Falcon after telling Han that the ship won't get a scratch.

pjvader wrote:
as he walks towards the falcon he walks into the shadows becoming a silhouette but he doesnt throw any shadows onto the bigass painting if thats what u mean! and boy does the clean up make it evem more noticeable that it is a painting! they could have added some interactive elements somehere even if its just a light blinking or someting!!
im sorry if i keep coming across as moaning about the new rotj im not!! i am 100% in love with it and cant stop talking about it i love it more than aBa!


you love it mre than me :whatevaho:


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So, no stormtrooper voices dubbed?


can u think of a part where one talks other than the bit where leia gets shot? it does sound different but not like the new boba, ill just go and check it with the SE's!
UPDATE just checked the SE's and the voice in that scene is the same on both versions! any other trooper dialogue anyone can think of?


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Has the scene where Han unfreezes from the carbonite been changed? I always thought the effects were wierd there.


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UPDATE just checked the SE's and the voice in that scene is the same on both versions! any other trooper dialogue anyone can think of?


The part where they hold up Threepio right before the Ewoks ambush them. "Freeze! Don't move." I think that's it for Stormtrooper dialogue in ROTJ.


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Yeah I think thats all too


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When 3PO is flying in the chair, in the Ewok village scene, can you still see the wires lifting him. I can see them in the 1995 Laser Disc version, was this changed in the 97 version? If not, is it now been changed for the DVD release?


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Wait wait, the old Anakin is gone as a Ghost! Does this my make vintage Ghost Anakin a non-Star Wars figure?? OR a EU figure?


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it doesn't change it at all, it's simply a figure from the 1983 release of ROTJ, compared to the 2004 release...


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I would think the change makes all the ROTJ Anakin figures worth mucho $.

GODDAMMIT I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT VADER COLLECTOR SET WITH THE ANAKIN FIGURE AND BOOK. SONOFABITCH

I'm ok now really.


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I would think the change makes all the ROTJ Anakin figures worth mucho $.

GODDAMMIT I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT VADER COLLECTOR SET WITH THE ANAKIN FIGURE AND BOOK. SONOFABITCH

I'm ok now really.


And there it sits on my bookshelf in all its glory. :) I picked it up at Waldenbooks for $25 right after AOTC came out. I had to sift through all of the stupid C3POs.....

And there goes my 5 seconds of fame... ;)


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So far, apart from maybe the new Anakin ghost, the changes we've seen don't seem as controversial as the SE ones. Boba Fett's "extended" role, poor CG Jabba, that awful Joe Cocker alien at Jabba's court, Greedo shooting first, they were all met with angry bewilderment.

You'd think that after the prequels, Lucas'd go crazy editing all sorts of stuff in.


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[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #31 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-1OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #32 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-2OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #33 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-3OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #34 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-4OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #35 0x [454M] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-5OF5 11=12-


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[20:26] <[Ns]-..............


Queue is already full. :( I'll be up all night.

Thanks again Klownicle!


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[20:26] <[Ns]-..............


Queue is already full. :( I'll be up all night.

Thanks again Klownicle!


It will be on another site in a hour or so, pm me and wait on the network and ill send when its up on the new one, when I say pm me, I mean on the network, hit me up klownicle... im at the top... LOL.


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Klownicle wrote:
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #31 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-1OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #32 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-2OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #33 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-3OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #34 0x [1.0G] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-4OF5 11=12-
[20:26] <[Ns]-188> --> #35 0x [454M] 12-11=4 Star.Wars.Episode.VI.Return.Of.The.Jedi.PAL.DVDR-MaST3rS-5OF5 11=12-


Damn, looks like I'll be converting all of these to NTSC...


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And there it sits on my bookshelf in all its glory. :) I picked it up at Waldenbooks for $25 right after AOTC came out. I had to sift through all of the stupid C3POs.....


FUCK! That's the exact same store I saw that shit at too. Damn did you get it at Westside Pavillion? :mrgreen:

That was a cool Anakin doll too. He almost looks like had he not turned to the dark side he would have been this super clean old Jedi man probably kicking ass as the Chosen One, bringing the Jedi with him into a new era of enlightenment.


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After seeing the footage, I think this HAS to be a work in progress, and not the final version. The Vader saber is NOT EVEN CLOSE to any of the other movies, PT or OT, why would that be?

Also the Hayden at the end looks rushed. I'm not saying it's not going to all be there, it just seems..... unfinished, unpolished, un proofed.

Maybe that's why this version's out on the internet, it's not the finished version.

I don't know I'm just speculating.

Oh, I'm david, I've been browsing this board for a few months now and this seems to be the perfect time to join up... JC boards are nothing but sheep and that's irritating.


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Why would they edit together a work in progress and mix the sound into 5.1? Plus, wouldn't it have the timers on the picture with notes?


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why would they put it out looking shitty?

and not all workprints have #'s or timestamps


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It's much more likely that this is one of the foreign language check discs that were supposedly sent out a while ago to have bi-lingual natives check the subtitles for accuracy. That would account for the finished look of 98% of the film with room to spare for touchups in the months leading up to a mass disc pressing.


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Some guy named Darth First at JCN claims he has all four discs now.

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EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
Wampa footage same
Tauntaun stop motion smoothed; looks more natural and less jerky
Ian is The Emperor as already confirmed
Boba revoiced by Tem as already confirmed
LUKE NO LONGER SCREAMS WHEN HE FALLS INTO THE CHASM ON BESPIN!
Possible extra shot of stormtroopers shooting Millennium Falcon as it departs; will have to check 1997 SE
Vader's saber in the later part of the Carbon Chamber duel is PINK and looks ridiculous

JEDI
All changes already confirmed; love the Hayden sequence

A NEW HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!
No Imperial March added (dammit)
Stormtroopers NOT revoiced
Jabba sequence redone with TPM Jabba - it's better but still looks too CGI and nothing like the Jedi Jabba
Luke's saber is STILL white onboard the Falcon
Vader/Obi-Wan duel has not been redone unless it's very subtle edits - looks the same to me, apart from new saber effects (again, Vader's is pink in some shots)
Most tweaks in this film are superficial (Death Star corridor, blinking trash compactor creature etc)
NO ADDED SENATE SCENES ETC


He says he'll have proof in 6 hours. I actually did think this guy was legit I just didn't appreciate the ol' "proof later".


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If true, Luke not screaming during his fall would be a huge plus. But the business with the lightsabers is a noggin scratcher. Seems strange to fix them in one scene but not another and the color inconsistency is weird too.


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Let me make a reference to the nfo file :)

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The dvd+r is in the channel, everyone can see how RETAIL it is. This is how it is, deal with it.


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Let me make a reference to the nfo file

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What are you hinting at Klownicle? :)

The fact that this is a retail version not a pre release "screener".


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