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Taken on its own merits, it is not a good Star Wars story. It introduces strange new villains, uninteresting secondary characters, weird and unnecessary canon retcons, meandering storylines for the leads, a confusing ending with Rey, and a terribly unsatisfying conclusion for Leia (and this is when Carrie was still alive). It does have components I am a fan of: Rey building her own double-bladed saber, having Kylo Ren confront a manifestation of Darth Vader, and Luke coming back to haunt Kylo (as he promised in TLJ).

Compared to what we got with TROS, I believe we got the better film despite my massive problems with it. Trevorrow is also a horrible director, so it's likely that whatever might have worked about his script would have been butchered anyway.


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There are some good ideas in the Trevorrow script, but overall I think both it and what we got are about the same. I'd say I prefer the JJ cut simply because it had Ben's redemption in it.

Freezus, I think i'd have preferred the JJ/Lucas cut as well.


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I dunno DP - I think the Disney version is better even though they shoehorned Palpatine into the story. I just think the JJ/Lucas cut is going to top it all.


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A hybrid of the two known scripts could produce something pretty special. You know, for a movie/trilogy that wasn't necessary in the first place.


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There are some things to like in this version, if this is a legit leak.

On the topic of the unnecessary sequel trilogy... given the entirely monetary goal, the movies we got are actually better than they had any reason to be. The biggest mistakes, in my opinion, were made by JJ and company in The Force Awakens. Absolutely nothing new and way too many short cuts. I get that JJ wanted NOTHING to do with Senate chambers and trade disputes when breaking his story for VII, but to suggest a version of the entire prequel trilogy takes place between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens is such a cheat! And not one new ship design that is as iconic as the N-1 Starfighter or even as interesting or bizarre as the Jedi starfighter. An unlimited budget, his pick of any working actor who would do anything to be in a Star Wars movie, the best concept and VFX artists in the world, and JJ asks for X-wings and TIE Fighters and Resistance vs. First Order. All of this was sanctioned by Lucasfilm and Disney.

We did get our best (and worst) performance from Hamill and Adam Driver in complete control, so there's that going for the trilogy. It's also fascinating to witness Daisy Ridley mature into the role. Tons of "cool" visuals to satisfy in the moment, but ultimately hollow. And JJ's charms wore very thin by The Rise of Skywalker. It's all very frustrating, and I LIKE these movies! I guess that's the definition of a Star Wars fan.


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I really, really, really hope Kenobi is not cancelled. That is the single most-wanted story I've wanted to see told, in whatever medium, that remains untold during the I-VI portion of the saga. I adore the character and Ewan's portrayal of him. A story about him in the Tatooine desert is something I am dying to know, and would LOVE to write, if I had the connections to Disney/LFL.

The more I analyze the ST, the more out of favor it falls to me. I am hesitant to drink the Haterade with any portion of Star Wars, because of how little I think of the prequel bashers, but I just can't see why this story was necessary, and can clearly see where the logic behind the storytelling completely falls apart.

Having said that, I have thoroughly enjoyed Rebels and the Mandalorian, and am excited for next month's Clone Wars revival. So I do not take the tact that Everything Disney Touches Dies. The various Marvel Comic series have told some compelling stories. Rogue One and Solo told stories that were gripping and insane fun. The novels piggybacking off those films have been very well written also. There's a lot I have enjoyed in this new era of Star Wars storytelling.

As fans, we all have headcanons. Sadly for me, I doubt Ep. 7-8-9 have a place in that.


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