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Post Posted: February 25th 2016 5:06 am
 
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Thanks also for the link.Disney XD is an episode behind here..
I really enjoyed this episode.


Post Posted: February 25th 2016 9:55 am
 
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One of the stronger episodes of the season. The last shot of Kallus on his bunk was strong. I'd love to find out more about what happened on Geonosis.


Post Posted: February 25th 2016 8:14 pm
 
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This week's Rebels Recon promises more about Geonosis in episodes to come.

Loved the emphatic contrast between Zeb and Kallus' return to their respective bases.


Post Posted: February 25th 2016 11:11 pm
 
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This was one of my favorite Rebels episodes yet, and I've really liked the focus on characters as of late.

I wasn't really ever expecting them to flesh out Kallus with how shallow all the Imperials not named Vader or Tarkin have been portrayed up to this point (with the exception of Minister Tua, but they killed her off just as she was becoming interesting). And yet, now he's become one of the more interesting characters on the show. David Oyelowo did some awesome voice work in this one, too.


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Tremendously cool episode - unexpectedly good.
When the writing and performances are of this caliber, I forget I'm watching a cartoon.
TCW had this effect on me a multitude of times, SWR has only done this to me once or twice.


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Forgot about the seeming callback to a first season Clone Wars episode, Duel of the Droids, from way back in 2008. Last time we saw an extended face-off between two astromechs. Hilarious!


Post Posted: March 2nd 2016 10:09 am
 
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Good episode. I'm warming to Rebels... It's starting to get nearer to the quality of animation in TCW (IMHO), and the storylines seem to be getting a tad more imaginative.


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Best episode of the series so far for me. Just incredible.

The Anakin - Ahsoka interaction was really powerful, Anakin even sounded like the Son from Mortis when he said "you're selfish", nice touch... also pay attention to the face, and especially the eyes' animation of Ahsoka in the close-ups, downright exceptional.

Frank Oz, JEJ, Jason Isaacs, Matt Lanter and Ashley at their best... all star stuff. wow.


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"It will be their undoing..."

I need JEJ back in Star Wars movies.


Post Posted: March 2nd 2016 11:35 pm
 
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Great stuff in this episode and definitely one of the strongest of the series. It really feels like the show is starting to hit its stride with the recent run of character-building episodes and now the larger plot starting to heat up.


Post Posted: March 3rd 2016 2:22 am
 
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"Find Malachor.." :metal:

Great episode!


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Good episode. The ending with the collapsing temple and Yoda's farewell reminded me of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" and the knight brother's farewell.


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Agreed on the "Last Crusdade" call back.

I also had a "when Neo fights Morpheus" Matrix vibe from the Temple Guard room.


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Loved it!
That part with Ahsoka and Vader gave me chills.
Excellent episode.
Very excited to see Malachor.


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I actually thought there was more tangible drama and emotion in the single episode than there was in The Force Awakens. I really hope someone give Filoni the opportunity to make a Star Wars film. I think he 'gets it' much more than the other journey men.


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New episode is up.

Not so great, not absolutely weak, but there wasn't something outstanding. Mediocre.

Next week the second part and in 2 weeks season finale.


Post Posted: March 16th 2016 8:38 pm
 
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Wut... :what:

This episode was absolutely hilarious! It had an Alan Rickman droid for Christ's sake! :lol:

Who knew we'd get a Chopper-centered episode?

One of the best for me.


Post Posted: March 16th 2016 10:50 pm
 
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I thought it was solid for what it was worth, but it felt out of place after everything that happened in the previous episode to point us towards the season finale.

Kylo Ren's "The droid... stole a freighter?" line from TFA seems very relevant tonight.


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Not a bad episode at all...a little misplaced in the timeline maybe?

AP-5 droid seen on Death Star in ANH?


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Some Spoiler info but beautifully well put together video highlighting Anakin and Ahsoka during TCW


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TiniTinyTony wrote:
Some Spoiler info but beautifully well put together video highlighting Anakin and Ahsoka during TCW


I keep thinking that the finale's title, "Twilight of the Apprentice," might be misleading us.

That is to say that I think Filoni and Co. might be using Ahsoka as a red herring of sorts to lead us fans to prematurely expect her death. Most fans are ignoring that there is another apprentice (or former apprentice) in the mix, namely Darth Maul. I don't think Filoni will kill off his greatest character so quickly, when he could draw out the Vader-Ahsoka relationship for a while longer. Perhaps, even though he is just resurfacing in Rebels, the title refers to Maul's death.

Then again, maybe the Rebels creative crew is playing it straight with us. Back in the early years of The Clone Wars, I always assumed that Ahsoka had to die before Revenge of the Sith. Surely she doesn't survive into the OT period.


Meh, just some thoughts that have been bouncing around my brain that I wanted to share. I'm probably just overthinking things again.


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I'd be pretty surprised if Ahsoka sticks around for much longer. It's one of those things where this series really isn't her story, but she's too good of a character to be pushed into the background.


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Surprisingly good episode.
Will AP-5 now be part of the Rebels crew?


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They're just collecting more and more players, ain't they? :P


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Episode is up.

Not bad. Though the music from the Zeb's "radio" doesn't fit with SW :P


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I'd be pretty surprised if Ahsoka sticks around for much longer. It's one of those things where this series really isn't her story, but she's too good of a character to be pushed into the background.


I think you're probably right. Part of why I shared my suspicions that it might not be the case was so we weren't disappointed, not that it'll necessarily be great to see a character to whom I've become attached bite it. Additionally, she has kind of played her role, whereas
Maul is just being reintroduced to Rebels and probably will need to be around a bit, assuming his role will be to tempt Ezra to the Dark Side.


It's kinda funny, I was talking with a dude about Star Wars, and he said that he heard what caused the MPAA to brand Revenge of the Sith PG-13 wasn't the graphic immolation of Anakin, but that it was the strong allusion to him committing multiple child murders and the subsequent explicit mention of it by Obi-Wan and Padmé. He asserted that what often made the MPAA give harsh ratings to movies on the borderline between two ratings is not the stuff you'd immediately think, even though child murder is obviously among the vilest of atrocities.

Anyway, that got me thinking of why they may not have killed Ahsoka during The Clone Wars series, as I mentioned I used to presume had to be the case. Perhaps it just boiled down to a regulatory hurdle because she was so young. And now that she is a 20-or-30-something Togruta, I don't think the network and showrunners really have any roadblocks to keep her death from occurring. I know the narrative calls for her to die, so long as the narrative is well-constructed, but a part of me is still questioning if it will happen. My uncertainty is evidence of good marketing, at the very least, because I will be tuning in for the finale episodes' broadcast premieres.


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Loved every second of it.


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It's driving me nuts thinking what the possible meaning of the finale title is, as my dumb ass realized it could refer to
Ezra or Kanan (the latter being a stretch) as easily as Ahsoka or Maul.
Not much longer to go now...gotta relax and just enjoy the ride.


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Use a good adblocker.

Google Drive Link (Safer but no 720p).


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Filoni is very capable at telling EPIC stories. He gets the mythology.

I'm not a huge fan of the show, and this story was hurt by the approaching New Hope status-quo, but I felt some real emotion. Very good character building at work here.


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Hands down, The Single Greatest Episode - EVER!

Once they landed on Malachor, I could barely breathe from that moment forward, and the tension only kept growing from there.

BRILLIANT work.

I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

But
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ending...!

There is SO much to expound upon.

Everyone involved in creating this episode has well earned the right to make a full length live action feature film.

Genius!

Throwing more superlatives in regards to Twilight of the Apprentice would be pointless.

Just watch it.

Over and over and over again.

I'll come back after several days once the dust has settled and comment more then.

Wow...


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Yeah, that was some damn good Star Wars. Blown away.


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This episode was beautiful. I, too, am a little irked by the ambiguous nature of the outcome of Ahsoka vs. Vader, especially given that heavy emphasis was placed in trailers on the confrontation bringing closure to that relationship from The Clone Wars series. The more I think about it, however, the less I'm bothered by it.

This is my take:

Filoni has stated that he knows for certain what happened to Ahsoka in his mind. I think he believes she is dead. However, I bet there was some behind-the-scenes pressure to not make this outcome conclusive because Ahsoka is a "Disney cash cow" (in addition to being a great character), being one of the most significant female Jedi (or "former Jedi," if you want to split hairs). I'm not sure what that scene of Ahsoka at the end meant...it was an interesting transition from Vader leaving to the bird creature flying to Ahsoka re-entering the temple/falling down.

Some people are saying it's meant to be a Force Ghost. Having not finished The Clone Wars yet, some of the possible symbolism is lost on me. Apparently, those birdlike creatures often appeared in scenes involving Ahsoka, and the scene with her at the end is meant to be a visual parallel to a scene from TCW when she left the Jedi Order. I'd probably interpret the scene as playing out in Vader's mind as he hobbled away...another part of Anakin Skywalker was destroyed, as indicated by Ahsoka seeming to fall forward and being absorbed by the darkness of the Sith Temple.

I have no doubt that Filoni meant for her to die as the episode was written. I also have no doubt that, if that proves to be the canonical version of events, we'll still see new Ahsoka stories, probably set during The Clone Wars. However, I think higher-ups with LFL and Disney pressured Filoni to make the outcome ambiguous. I really think he was ready to "put her out to pasture." I wouldn't have been surprised if, had Disney owned the Star Wars IP when the OT was being made, some executive or another would have even wanted Darth Vader to survive.

I loved how Maul's situation and behavior when Ezra first finds him parallels Luke's first meeting with Yoda on Dagobah.

And did anyone think it was a little weird that, when Anakin's helmet cracked, the exposed portion of his face was flesh-colored rather than pasty white?

Lastly, half joking, but I kinda want Kanan to sport Terminator robot eyes at some point in the future.


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As a far as Star Wars goes, this is about as good as it gets. Why wasn't TFA this well executed?

I'm not sure if the ambiguity with Ahsoka's fate is due to Disney executives. I'm not even sure that there is ambiguity with her fate. I have to watch the episode again to confirm my thoughts.

Concerning the Sith holocron: it's probably the eventual power source source of Starkiller base, right?


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OMG. I started sobbing half way through and continued to bawl for five minutes after the credits ended. What a powerful experience for every single character. Maul, reinvented more often than Madonna; Kanaan seeing red; Ezra poised for seduction by holochron; Ahsoka ...well ... GONE; and perhaps the most excruciating reveal ever of Vader's personal agony in that helmet. I cried for them all. The death of Anakin Skywalker was never so clearly expressed; the choke/stab death of the inquisitor by Maul evoked sorrow for Satine; the death of Ahsoka-and-Anakin's affection symbolized the lost "family" of Anakin, Amidala and thier youngling padawan - all together they brilliantly converged in a story so intense and moving it left me wondering why TFA lacked emotional depth when such masters of storytelling are at the helm of the Ghost. Years of Lucas' tutelage clearly paid off for our wolf-loving muse.

I am glad Filoni was able to finish(?) the Tano story, but agree the ambiguity is a tiny let down. Closure is really needed here, Di$ney be damned lol.

My favorite line? When Vader told her it's not the Jedi way. "I'm not a Jedi!"
Well, whatever you were Ahsoka Tano, you were loved. And always will be.


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I was disappointed that the Inquisitors never amounted to anything this season and they were almost laughably ineffective in the finale, but that was pretty much my only real complaint about this episode. After two seasons, I hope one of the things Rebels can address going forward is creating more credible threats without having to call in Vader or Tarkin all the time.

Not that I'm against seeing Vader... he was awesome here and back in the season premiere. The confrontation at the end was really well done and although Rebels isn't her story, I'm glad that Ahsoka's story found its closure, even if it wasn't completely clear what happened. Also liked how the interactions between Ezra and Maul were like a darker version of Luke meeting Yoda.

Wish the second season wasn't as uneven as it was, but its high points were really high. Looking forward to seeing what they do next.


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Jesus H Christ !

Stunningly epic finale - hats off the Rebels crew and Filoni in particular.

I believe both Vader and Ashoka survived that explosion. In fact I just read there is a new canon novel based on Ashoka Tano coming out. I'm expecting her to show up in Season 3.

Maul Maul Maul rock on !

Ezra going down the dark path and Kanaan losing his eyes can't wait to see where the next season takes us.

10/10


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Phenomenal job!

This is what I've been waiting for since Season I, and the payoff was absolutely spectacular.
For me, Twilight of the Apprentice is right up there with The Mortis Trilogy from The Clone Wars.
Everything about this finalé felt right to me - the beats, the character building - the traditional Star Wars ending with visuals/music - no dialog.
Filoni has done something truly remarkable here. I've watched this three times and each time Vader calls out "Ahsoka!" I get emotional.

Really anticipating Season III now; cannot wait!


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Loved this Finale!

I don't believe Ashoka is dead.

I believe she is being saved for the next animated series after Rebels (Probably set sometime after ROTJ). She is the key to Luke and Leia discovering the true past of their mother and father as that story has never really been touched upon outside of that Tatooine Ghost Novel.

Does anyone else think the Sith Temple was the prototype version of the Starkiller base?

This story arc is surely meant to setup/foreshadow the events of TFA, especially with the Maul/Ezra exchanges planting the seeds for the Knights of Ren.


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Via Antiqua wrote:
Does anyone else think the Sith Temple was the prototype version of the Starkiller base?


Yes.

And this episode further fuels my theory that Ezra = Snoke.


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Filoni should be directing Episode 9. When you consider the hack that is, it's almost a slap in the face that he's not.

Filoni's best chance is the third anthology movie. However, even that is a long shot. Rebels is for the fans. The new movies are for fans, but also for general audiences. In turn, Disney isn't inclined to worry about the sophistication that Filoni brings to his Star Wars projects. Disney just wants to put butts in movie theater seats and they like directors who have already provide the ability to do just that. That $4 billion purchase hasn't been earned back yet.

Via Antiqua wrote:
Loved this Finale!
I don't believe (Ahsoka) is dead.

I believe she is being saved for the next animated series after Rebels (Probably set sometime after ROTJ).

I think that's a great guess. The final shot of Ahsoka makes it quite clear that she's not dead or a glowing Force ghost. She is simply walking away from Rebels in the same manner she walked away from the Clone Wars.

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BTW, you can buy a t-shirt of Ahsoka's final Rebels image over at Her Universe. Interesting.

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And this episode further fuels my theory that Ezra = Snoke.

In the IGN interview, Filoni alluded to the fact that there are no extraneous Jedi or Sith at the time of ANH.

Filoni wrote:
There’s this idea that I like where Tarkin says to Vader, “You are all that’s left of that ancient religion. The Jedi’s Fire has gone out in the galaxy,” basically. I think that’s true for the Dark Side of the Force, too. You get this feeling in A New Hope that there’s this technological achievement going on. The Empire is becoming this mechanized menace, and that while the Emperor and Vader control the Dark Side and use it to manipulate things, a lot of what’s evil about this Empire is the lack of faith and belief in the Force. I think a lot of that falls through with Inquisitors. They have their place, but as they’re not needed anymore – as the fire of the Jedi goes out in the galaxy – it’s not like the Emperor would even want all these witches and wizards running around his kingdom."

So, that doesn't provide much hope for Kanan and Ezra surviving the Rebels series unless they become something other than a Jedi or a Sith.

That being said, I still doubt your "theory," Bandersnatch. Sadly, I don't think that either Kasdan or Abrams put that much thought into Snoke.


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And this episode further fuels my theory that Ezra = Snoke.

Absolutely. Is there a thread on this particular?

And what about this post-Sith post-Jedi new "balance" that incorporates both dark and light? Yin needs Yang. That was the Mortis message, right? Mortis was so wierd, so different, like Lucas was trying to say ... hey, the force is so much more complex than Jedi/Sith. We have Bardotta, Dathomir ... and Mortis. So within the context of this new meta-level of SW spirituality, what is Snoke's true agenda? And is that tied in to the "balance" that was seemingly destroyed on Mortis?

Maybe we have not seen the last of Anakin (he was a force ghost after all in ROTJ) and this reveal of his face behind the mask was a sort of play on that idea that we will see his character is like post-Vader. He will have had first hand knowledge of both Jedi and Sith, and may have a spiritual agenda that influences Ezra/Snoke and thus Kylo. Kylo worships Vader, who speaks through Snoke.

Or maybe the Ewoks are actually running the galaxy from secret underground tech centers. Yub Yub is actually a hypnotic spell, entrancing us all.

Yes. Ezra = Snoke.


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Yes. Ezra = Snoke.


We called it first! :monocles:


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Well, it totally makes sense. I always thought his last name "Bridger" was a pretty good indication that his character would somehow bridge the stories of the three trilogies. How exactly a character could do that without appearing in the OT or PT was always a mystery to me. But Ezra is buds with Leia, Lando, R2 and has fought Vader plenty, so he is pretty well tied in to those characters, even if it did not happen in a MOVIE. IMHO I love the integration of canon among all media (though JJ seems to have taken QUITE SOME LIBERTIES with the way StarKiller base was originally written to use mysterious Dark Matter and not inexplicably pull the energy from the sun. A solar powered planet blaster? Does that mean Starkiller's sun is gone forever, or somehow regenerates? Or did they use up Hosnian's sun, in which case why bother blowing up the planets if they are all just gonna freeze. Oh, and how the HELL can the folks on Takodana see this in the sky?) Oh shit, .... wayyy off topic.

EZRA has relationships with PT Ahsoka, Rex, Yoda, and who knows who else will show up. He has relationships with Leia, Lando and the droids. And who knows, maybe he meets Han and gets pissed when Han abandons Leia to go be a smuggler again in the sequels, and that is why Ezra Snoke has Kylo kill Han. Could be a very old grudge. lol

But seriously. Ezra really could BRIDGE the whole shebang.
And then there is this dude.


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:lol: That's awesome!


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Interestingly, he died in California in the 1950s. Maybe he was related or a mentor to Lucas or JJ or Kennedy or Kasdan or ...


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I'm not really a fan of the Ezra being Snoke theory. I think Snoke being more 'ancient' is a key factor. Unless you were joking in which case I bought it.

Ezra can also be seen as the bridge between the prequels and original trilogy more than anything. I doubt he will have anything to do with the sequels.


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maul has to die at some point... im not a fan of his immortality


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It's not a question of if he will die, but how. Also, will he be redeemed before his end?

The Ezra/Snoke angle seems to overlook this statement:

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Filoni says he’s unlikely to resolve any major secrets from the films — just as he wouldn’t want the movies to tie up any loose ends involving the characters from his shows. “For anybody in Star Wars, I think one of the questions you’re going to get asked is, ‘Is that Snoke?’ It’s one of the mysteries right now. So, anybody could be seen as Snoke.

It doesn't put an end to the speculation, but makes it seem much more unlikely that Ezra would be a character in the sequels.


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