well it is like their ford or dodge equivalent there is more than one out there, maybe they will have a drag race, issacs versus ford ala american graffitit

Let's talk about the plausibility of this recent "I Am Your Father" rumor. To me this new description of Luke's role, if it is indeed true, sounds alot like Darth Revan.

Not alot of JJ's past work has featured villians that are simply hellbent on destruction & evildoing. They are more complex, with a tragic backstory that reveals the real motives for why they are now this way.

Few examples:

LOST - The Other's aren't trying to harm the 815 survivors, they just want to protect the island from those whom intend to kill them all. If this means killing a few survivors, so be it, it's for the good of the island.

Star Trek - Nero is seeking vengeance against those whom he believes intentionally destroyed his race's homeworld of Romulus.
Into Darkness - Kahn is forced into making warships and weapons to fight the Klingons while his shipmates are held hostage, then is discovered trying to release them, flees and believes they are all killed.

Revan is brought up in the Jedi Order as an extremely powerful Jedi, tasked with ending the Mandalorian War. He founds a renegade faction of Jedi known as the Revanchists who operate independent of the Republic/Jedi Order against their wishes to end the destroy the Sith. Later he confronts the Emperor hiding on Dromund Kaas building a new Sith Empire.

Revan's mind is turned to the dark side and he is tasked with finding a legendary superweapon known as the Star Forge to defeat the Republic/Jedi. He ultimately breaks free from the mind control, gains control of the Star Forge and decides he will conquer and rebuild the Republic into a new order capable of defeating the Sith once and for all. This included killing alot of Jedi who stand in his way who do not leave the Jedi Order and join his own empire.

To me it sounds a little familiar with the rumors of huge planet-sized weapons, and Jedi-Hunters going around. Maybe in the 10-30yrs alone, Luke thinks he's found his own way of defeating the Sith and fulfilling his destiny once and for all. Maybe this is why they ultimately scrapped the EU. Not because they wanted to write a NEW Expanded Universe story, but the story they wanted to tell had already been told.

At this point, concluding that Luke is "The Cyborg" is a leap of faith. Maybe "The Cyborg" simply convinces "Kira" that he's Luke (when in reality he is not)? My wild guess is that "The Cyborg" is secretly Luke's son and that fact isn't revealed until the Episode 8.

I'm curious as to why everyone seems less curious about Han than Luke. After all, Ford has previously stated his wish to see Solo die on screen. If Ford is truly the star of the film, doesn't it stand to reason that his character will suffer the same fate as Qui-gon and Ben Kenobi?

I also wonder if Driver's character is a descendant of Dooku or a clone of Dooku. Originally, Lando has a cloned descendant of a well known family. Is that idea being recycled for the Sequel Trilogy? If he is a clone of Dooku, does this concept fit into Lucas' previous contention that an important character from the Prequel Trilogy will show-up in the the Sequel Trilogy?

Revan was also imprisoned by the Sith for over 300 years forcing many to believe he was dead. I think selling Luke Skywalker as the villian on your first go round would be extremely tough to studio execs as well. Maybe thats why there was that writer change in the beginning, but part of that script remains. It's probably more along the lines of what you are thinking. Ep 7 - set up, Ep 8 - reveal, Ep 9 resolution

I agree, I dont think theres anyway JJ convinces Harrison Ford to come back and not let Han finally die. Theres got to be some big build up to it though with him passing the torch to the new characters, otherwise it doesnt really mean anything to bring him back.

the chewbacca with a robotic arm and leaning to the right thing- maybe they had a design in place to compensate for peter mayhew's recent surgery? as he does seem to favour a lean (he's a big guy!) maybe that was one of the scenarios they had in place incase to account for his new phsyique or if he didnt mak a full recovery in time

It'd be interesting if the heroes have mistaken someone else's saber for Luke's. Maybe it's Obi-wan's hilt and it unintentionally leads the protagonists to the mysterious (and possibly evil) female Kenobi?

Luke's on another planet.

Think Frozen without the singing sisters.

Is it Ilum? That seems like a good planet to visit if your tracking via a lightsaber. Plus: if the movie is going to visit Korriban Moraband, it might as well visit a Jedi planet too.

Im not sure these are 'rebel' fighters.

It doesn't make sense to have rebel fighters.

Why? Maybe it's a different rebellion. Maybe the rebellion never became a republic.

Iam sure that the republic we think to exist after Ep VI wont be as established as it comes around in the Post Endor LEU. And Iam gratefull for that. Not that I didnt love this storyline but I want to see some DIFFERENT from Episode VII then I used to read in the novels. So I can only say: bring it on, whatever it is!

You're expecting this from the same guy who's big "twist" on Kahn was to tell everyone "it's not kahn"....then have Kirk and Spock trade places, only to revive kirk with miracle blood.

Well: The treatments of the Story obviously are from George himself and Iam expecting a LOT from his story.

If those treatments are a the foundation of the Story of the new movies then I'm sure that we will be surprised with the setting the GFFA is in when Ep VII starts.

As some rumors also indicating stuff that clearly goes against anything which was established in the LEU...

The interesting point is that the Empire wasn't disbanded...I thought it was after RotJ and RotS.

I thought that the treatments were practically thrown out, and much was going from scratch.

Thats not what I did understand from the script problems. As I did understand Abrams wasnt satisfyed the the Arndt Script and di some rewritings But the main story was kept. They just changed some stuff they didnt liked.

As I did unterstand the treatment thing was that those are rough story drafts with no details. Maybe some character descriptions and who belongs to whom but the rest would be pretty rough. So Arndt started from there and Abrams rewrote his first draft.

So I guess the treatments are still the foundation of the plot.

KK says filming will be complete in 3 weeks: (metro.co.uk /star-wars-episode-7-finished-in-three-weeks-kathleen-kenendy-says-4911855/)

dailymail.co.uk carrie-fisher-celebrates-turning-58-dines-harrison-ford-star-wars-episode-vii-stars.html

Adrien Brody with the rest of the cast...
whadya recon?

Any chance that Luke, who may have been "missing" for a number of years, living alone (on Skellig Michael) has been learning to bring a certain force ghost back to a physical form?

Is the mysterious 'Grave Robber' Anakin Skywalker in his younger form (now that Hayden's ROTJ reappearance is canon).

There was an interesting article about the Jedi not being as pure or good as they once were. Maybe Luke has dabbled with the darkside to make this happen. But why? For what purpose?

But think, Vader in the suit, fighting on the good side. Wild speculation, but hey...

He's got the beard for it!

It would be the ultimate fanwank, which is why it won't happen. It would come off as bad fanfiction more than anything else (although i'd personally love to see something like that).

I would much rather see this scenario happen than some recycled storyline of another Skywalker turning to the Dark side , only to be redeemed in the the final episode. I say bring on the ultimate fanwank!

Hi everyone, great to be back analysing scraps of potential spoilers (badly)! It is these discussions which enhanced my enjoyment of Star Wars leading up to EP III and i'm looking forward to many months more now.

Anyway, the revealed concept art. First off, some really interesting images there. Thankfully they seemed to have really gone with the early Mcquarrie designs that feel like the Star Wars we know and love.

The 'Dark Knight' figure (Force choking Kira) certainly looks like the original concept for Vader. And that confirms to me that 'Vader', in some capacity will be in the movie. After all, can there be Star Wars without Anakin/Darth Vader? I don't think so.

When I was first thinking about what the story could be about I imagined going into the room with the writers for the first time and wondering what the first ideas/questions would be.

My first thought was about Luke and the Jedi. It struck me that, should Luke's parentage be revealed, the 'Galaxy' would probably distrust him. Maybe they would be wary of the Jedi entirely? Would Luke want to risk starting another Jedi Order that could create dangerous Force users?

I was later interested by the rumours of Luke being 'missing' and/or living as a hermit/prisoner on the 'Skellig' planet.
With Luke (and maybe the entire Jedi Order) out of the way, this would leave an opportunity for someone to attempt to take control of the Galaxy once more (remnant of the Empire/Sith Cultists/Crime Lords).

I personally don't buy the 'Luke is evil' storyline. That diminishes the end of ROTJ, is too much of a rehash of the OT and to be frank, Hamill couldn't pull that off. He's a comic book baddie at best.

Going by the rumours and casting, I think it seems more than likely that Adam Driver will be the villain (or a secondary main Villain like Vader). And the Uncle Owen actor guy revealing that he [Driver] is playing 'a version of the villain' suggests to me that his character will at some point don a full body costume (like Vader).

For me the plot will likely have themes centred around the struggle of truly restoring peace (The Republic). ROTJ finished with unrealistic optimism. This trilogy will have to deal with the disappointment that surely came after.

Anyway, in terms of the actual plot, at the centre of the entire thing - it has to be about the Force and balance.
The Force is what runs through the middle of the entire story. And it would seem to me that if the balance was restored at the end of ROTJ then it's a bit of a dead end. Whatever came next would be insignificant.

This makes me think that:

a) The balance wasn't restored.
b) The Jedi were wrong about what balance to the Force actually meant.
c) From the POV of another group/cult (Sith), the Force is now out of balance.

Luke will be the key to this and the rumours of him being the villain are perhaps more about him acting in ways that appear corrupt but are in fact for the 'good' of truly balancing the Force.

If option 'c' above is near the truth then it would maybe suggest that 'they' would be seeking their own chosen one to bring balance (be it resurrecting Anakin/Darth Vader or trying to 'create' a new one through cloning or turning the grandson/daughter of Anakin to the Dark Side. I personally think that could be Driver who eventually wears a Vader-esque suit.

But then in 2004 I did think Mace Windu was evil and Palpatine had a clone…



p.s. I haven't heard anything about Domhnall Gleeson's character. Any rumours about him? Looks like a Kenobi to me.

Did anyone Here see the latest Rebels Episode?

Just posted this same thought over in the "Rise of the Old Masters" thread, but what if the whole Luminara Hologram/Corpse thingy is what we'll actually see used with Vader somehow in the Sequel trilogy.

Worth checking out as it's been said Rebels will foreshadow a lot of EVII, etc.

I've not heard anything official about Rebels foreshadowing Episode VII. The producers stated it's largely a standalone series because of the lengthy time period separating these eras and that it is much closer to the OT in terms of continuity. The odd background vehicle or droid may make a brief appearance, or perhaps sequel trilogy planets namechecked?

Some random stuff:

RUMOR: Episode VII E-wing & C-wing; Han Solo; Speeder & Hero Codename; More Cyborg; Rebel Ships

After some thought, my feeling is that Luke will appear to have turned or at the very least have his true motives and allegiances questioned by most, including Han. Han will likely harbor some ill will over Luke abandoning them after the destruction of the second Death Star. They'll reconcile towards the end, with Han making some sort of heroic sacrifice for Luke and some of the new cast.

I think very little will be seen of the cyborg, he's basically going to be Episode VII's Darth Maul.

Abrams may be a mediocre filmmaker but he knows how to get the fans behind something like this. I'm not expecting a lot of twists and turns, this movie is going to be all about getting the general public back on board with Star Wars.

Mark sans beard -

Mark looks good. That looks like Luke Skywalker.

So I've just been having some thoughts based on the last rumors from makingstarwars (by the way they deserve a smiley like it's quite a pain to read their descriptions....)

Apparently Luke isolated himself because he has become very powerful to a point of fearing the effects of it because he can't quite control it. And both good and bad guys will try to get him out there.... I think that makes a lot of sense and is the only premise that made me feel the dark (or seemingly dark) Luke twist at the end is plausible.

Most of all, it actually sounds a lot reminiscent of the Mortis arc! The father was pretty much like a chosen one, keeping balance between the 2 children and having to choose such isolation... just more extreme because of hundreds or thousands of years in the Mortis case, and for Luke, well at this point Ireland seems enough :p

The following chosen one has left a big mark on the galaxy and is not physically there anymore, and Luke is the new son struggling with the power he inherited from his father... and this also brings a big question mark on the "other", Leia, whose role is completely kept secret, out of spoilers so far

I think there is a lot of potential here, and the fact that Lucas got the momentum to write the new trilogy treatment because TCW gave him confidence and inspiration might give weight to this theory. I guess what's left of his storyline for the coming movies really are such things about the force than say specific characters about which they seem to have a lot of liberty, enough for a significant rewrite after Arndt draft.

We have seen they released the crystal crisis arc before introducing this aspect which we can assume will become important in Rebels, and I always felt they released the Yoda arc with a little bang for a reason, as a Mortis follow up and an opening to important things to come.

I sure would love it, fingers crossed then, and I would love to hear some of your thoughts.

The concept art for Korriban/Moraband stuff dates back to 2011. Lucas started writing the treatments in the same year. We've been hearing rumors and seeing "leaked concept art" for the film tying in with Moraband and Darth Bane. It's possible the Moraband ep was meant to foreshadow things in the Sequel Trilogy.

Would love to get an expansion on the things seen there. I loved getting Sith lore in Lucas-helmed productions since they were so rare. One of the things the Prequels dropped the ball on was not having that mythology aspect of the Dark Side, like the OT had.

While I understand the thematic callback of having Luke actually becoming an isolated and "crazy, old wizard" I can't say that it's sitting well with me for some reason. Maybe it's all the EU stuff that i've read...

-edit- actually, it's more than that. It doesn't tie in to the way the OT left off. Yoda and Ben both expected and charged Luke with the reconstruction of the Jedi Order. He's "the last of the Jedi". There's no precedent for Luke going all Starkiller and wiping out planets with the Force. Prior to Luke, Anakin was the most powerful Jedi ever but you would never know it based on how he was portrayed in the PT. Even in a brute-force match, Obi-Wan matched his Force power levels. It sounds like they've taken Tartakovsky's Clone Wars superheroes and amped it by 10x.

Honestly, the more I hear the more it's dampening my excitement. Which is exactly the opposite of what I want to be happening for a Star Wars sequel.

Considering Luke's lack of formal Jedi indoctrination, one would expect these last few decades would have made him into a very different Jedi than any we have ever seen before. If Anakin brought balance to the force by sacrificing himself to destroy all that was left of the dark-side, wouldn't a solitary Force user be the bearer of a great deal of power? Good and bad, perhaps?

Having been a small child when the entire Star Wars saga began, I grew up believing the Jedi were much more mysterious, almost Shao-lin monk-like, enlightened bunch of bad asses. The Jedi order of the Galactic Republic we saw in the PT didn't really give me what I wanted. It was all very regimented, bureaucratic and stuffy for my taste. I'm not saying it should have been different, let them tell their story wtf do I care I will buy it all anyways, I just thought there would be more to it all, y'know?!?

That all being said, I am still stoked over everything I've seen or heard about this film. I hope I live to see it on the big screen. I talk a lot of shit to people, so fingers crossed

There was a snippet of set on John Oliver's show, at the 3:30 and 4:00 marks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9qA8c-E_oA

I'm slowly beginning to come to the conclusion that the "Grave Robber" character is actually Luke's own nightmare vision of himself that haunts him while he is in exile. Like he keeps having visions of himself succumbing to his father's fate - more machine than man, twisted and evil.

I'm not too hot on there being dream sequences in Star Wars, but if I focus on Luke's cave experience in TESB, I can sort of get my head around it.
What if Luke is so powerful now, it's almost as if his own reality has become like the "reality" from the cave? And he feels he can't mix with society ("what's out there - only what I take with me" kind of twist on the original set-up). Making his vision become reality is his greatest fear. In fact, it may be done in such a way the audience may not be sure what the reality of Luke actually is, and what his motives are...

A Salmon Cannon in Star Wars? Fuck this shit, I won't see it!!

^That actually makes a lot of sense, and feels sort of like what Lucas himself said years ago about the 3rd trilogy possibly being "much more ethereal" and philosophical.

I agree. I think the 'Grave Robber' is too much like Vader to be the new real villain. More likely that he is a figment of Luke's imagination.

From what we've heard about Luke so far (and it appears to be agreed upon), he is an outcast, unable to understand or control his power.

Going by Lucas' early (albeit underdeveloped) musings about the sequel trilogy, that it would 'deal with moral and philosophical problems' and that it would be 'about Jedi knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned,", I think that tallies with what you're saying Treadwell.

I think the films will essentially be about the burden of power, knowing what is right and passing that on so balance and peace can be fully achieved and lasting.

Luke will be the physical manifestation of this. He is the 'weapon' that both good and evil fight over. He holds the key to success for the good or dark side.

At this current time he is suffering, unable to cope with the power he was born with. Pandora's box was opened, so to speak, and Luke is trying to keep it shut.

It's the burden for all of those in power. How do they actually do the right thing and continue on the right path without succumbing to the lure of power?

How do they not side with evil when you have to at times do questionable things for the greater good? The new protagonists will need to help Luke understand this and his place.

The first two trilogy story-lines were quite simple in that they were about the rise of evil and then about how good overcomes it.
But this trilogy should have a much more complex and thus interesting story:

When the dust settles, how does one know they're on the right side, doing the right thing, whilst at the same time maintaining peace and freedom?

It's the lesson the real world needs to grasp rather than making the same mistakes over and over...

That is a cool idea, for sure.

That would be a very original take. But, I still come back to the fact that cyborg doesn't look like Hamill.

My gut is telling me it's the Mortis approach (that's being discussed in the spoiler free thread). Cyborg is Luke's son. Luke magically puts the breaks on The Force in order to stop his way-too-powerful and evil son from ascending to an uncontrollable level.

Of course if it is the Mortis storyline, there has to be Skywalker daughter in the mix somewhere. I wonder who she is?

I agree. I suppose I forgot to mention that I only ended up going down that avenue because there seem to be two camps with insider info emerging here - one side is adamant that Luke is a cyborg in this movie (as in, more than he has been since Bespin, of course), the other are convinced he is not. Both seem to agree that he is "unstable" in some way and his motives unclear.

I was trying to think of scenarios that justify all three of those points, that also ties in with why Vader's helmet is even in the mix at all.
Personally, I don't buy the idea of anyone else actually being that interested in Vader's remains. In-universe, he's viewed as either a bit of Imperial muscle, hated and feared by his peers... or he is just another dead Sith failure - renowned in his time, perhaps, but a failure nonetheless, from a Sith POV.

All these theories about Sith hunting Sith artefacts - it just doesn't gel for me somehow... We are attaching our own audience-privileged sense of importance to Vader's remains. They are not important to anyone else besides Luke, and I doubt he'd find any answers by literally returning to them. Figuratively, yes.
And before anyone mentions cloning...

... poof. Nothing left to clone, I'm afraid.
You have got to look at it from an in-universe point of view. Anyone hunting Sith artefacts is just as likely to go and try to find Count Dooku's bust on Coruscant... It's just as relevant to them as Vader's broken helmet. Maybe moreso, seeing as how he didn't betray them and end the Sith line to save his Jedi son...

So, yeah, the only other option is another Skywalker being behind the mask I suppose.
Don't forget, Han and Leia's offspring would be Anakin's grandchild too. Driver as Han's son is a possibility.
I just feel like we've kind of been there before... Older, wiser generation trying to steer young, reckless individual on the right path. It seems more rewarding to me to see the victor - the person we've been right behind for three movies - who now, essentially, has all the power, crumble under the pressure now he is the "older, wiser generation". He's not the villain. He's not the hero. He's just struggling to get his s**t together, meanwhile the galaxy is getting screwed...

Very interesting ideas Treadwell and Master_Shaitan, I think and hope you guessed at least some things right




As I said I actually feel Luke would rather be the new equivalent to the Son, not at the dark point of the Son on Mortis, but at the beginning of this potential descent. This way we have "Daughter" that we already know and relate to, Leia.

I think that can make a lot of sense because Leia's supposed to have learned about the Force from Luke during the past 30 years, and frankly no one in the world would want to see Carrie Fisher fighting with a lightsaber.... Yeshe could very well be portrayed as a passive powerful force user much like the Daughter, or for that matter the queen of Bardotta who might have been introduced to fans for a bigger reason after all....

All this coming from the observation that the Father is the closest to Anakin in the Mortis arc.


One thing is for sure, speculation season has really been going full throttle since the title announcement, which gives a lot of weight to it..!

What if the obsessed character is a descendant of Vader? He may want to pick-up where his grandfather left off in order to "redeem" the Skywalker name and the Sith.

My Mortis analogy does get hazy when it comes to Leia. However, I don’t see Luke becoming the next “Son.” He turned down the Darkside a long time ago.

I've thought through the Mortis angle a little further. It doesn’t connect all dots, but I think it hits on a lot of known elements.

For what it's worth, it goes like this:

1) Kira happens across a lightsaber on her home world
2) For both monetary and unconscious reasons, she decides to track down the owner
3) She is told that resembles Luke Skywalker's hilt
4) The Luke reference leads her to the Falcon, which she is told is associated with Luke
5) The Falcon trail doesn't fully pan out, but it points her to Han, Chewie, and Leia
6) She gets involved with the three and they decide to help her track down Luke
7) Eventually, the heroes end-up on Moraband
8) They find the owner of the lightsaber, but it's not Luke. It turns out that it's cyborg's former Jedi weapon.
9) For whatever reason, the combination of Leia or Kira and the cyborg is very momentous Force-wise. (Maybe Kira is Luke's daughter and she unconscionably finds her way to her brother the cyborg. The two were separated as a precaution)
10) "The Force Awakens"
11) As a result of the union, Luke is drawn out from hiding on his frozen world
12) After a confrontation with Luke, cyborg gets away (possibly with help from the movie’s other villains)
13) For the sake of the galaxy, Luke commits to destroying cyborg at all costs
14) Leia and/or Kira still believe that cyborg can be saved
15) Luke says that he will have to destroy anyone who gets in his way (including Kira or Leia)
16) Cue the next movie

Don't get me wrong, I can see how that fits with the little we know so far.

Something about it just doesn't sit right with me though. Perhaps it's because my starting point is always going to be: Death Star explodes, Palpatine dies, Vader dies, Luke burns Vader's shell, Ewoks dance, galaxy is liberated...

This is the environment any Skywalker offspring are going to be entering into. Maybe not literally, but tonally and thematically, in my mind:



I can buy that 30 years have passed and things change...

Yet you don't just become obsessed with someone through sharing their DNA. Luke was curious about his real father because he had never met him. And because his foster parents were real cagey about mentioning him.

The point was he lived a humdrum existence, and he yearned for excitement and adventure, getting away from Tatooine. When he started to learn that there may have been more to Anakin than he previously understood, yeah, he was set on following in his footsteps, but his foster parents had also just been murdered - he didn't really have much going for him if he stuck around on Tatooine.

It takes us almost 40 minutes of exposition to get Luke to that point in the movie; just for him to actually want to go on an adventure at all.

If you are doing the same thing with a next-generation Skywalker becoming obsessed with Vader, the problem is that every element of that is at least one step removed, and therefore harder to negotiate. People just don't have that same burning desire to know the grandparents they have never met, it's a different level of curiosity.

And surely Leia and Han are the most exciting parents you could possibly have. She's a queen, and he's a high-ranking galactic hero. Surely this kid didn't have a humdrum existence farming moisture out of the atmosphere?

Probably just me, but it kind of seems like people are willing to accept this on the basis that - well, he's Vader's grandchild, it was bound to happen. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than that. He's got to have realistic ambitions and motivations outside of all that - like Luke did... and then for him to become the antagonist for, at least some of, this movie?

Just seems too much for me.

Pinewood already booked for Episode VIII shoot:

Skywalker?



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I can think of a few counterarguments.

For one, you're making the assumption that cyborg is a normal rational person with all his marbles. That may not be the case.

Next, cyborg is a cyborg. Assuming that his mechanism wasn't a choice, it's understandable why "grave robber" would feel an emotional connection to grandpa Vader.

Thirdly, not everyone has the immaculately conceived "Chosen One" as a decedent. That's a pretty big designation and worth fussing over.

Finally, the Hitler-ific hypothesis of "superior lineage" is a card that's been played by many a bad guy throughout human history. Yes, the reference point is usually less immediate than a grandparent. But, the Vader / "Chosen One" worship concept is along these same lines.

In going back to my Mortis discussion, I'm going to make a few revisions. First, I'm now going to assume that Luke has remained the Jedi purest he aspired to be in the OT. In turn, I'm saying that cyborg isn't his kid. It's Han and Leia's son or merely a protégé. Jedi cyborg got to be too big and dangerous Force-wise; causing Luke to do something drastic. Just as he couldn't bring himself to off his father, Luke decides to spare cyborg as well. As an alternative, he comes up with the novel approach of powering down the Force. (This type of dilemma reminds of the character Alyosha Karamazov who frequency suffers as a result of his passive and emphatic worldview.)

My other revision has to do with Kira meeting Han and company. The three may be unwelcoming and refuse to join her crusade. Instead, she may have to covertly follow Han, Chewie, and Leia (a la Boba Fett) as a means of tracking down cyborg and Luke.

Other Father Mortis?

Hot new rumor is Luke "accidently??" kills Han at the end, which pushes Han's son, Adam Driver's character, over to the Dark Side. It is HIS dark side that is awakening.

On @StarWars Twitter account today. New image of Chewbacca costume in EpVII?