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Post Posted: December 21st 2012 10:53 pm
 

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Personally, I hope that no EU or contrived PT references are in VII-IX at all. It would be great to see something exciting and different, a complete surprise would be perfect. I'll accept Luke (and his droids) as part of the story, as the movies are about the Skywalker family; but adding anyone else just seems pointless.

At present, I'm just not convinced that more 'Star Wars' movies are necessary, which the sheep in me is loath to admit. I have had greater enjoyment watching 'Clone Wars' cartoons than the PT.

However I'm sure Lucas will bring Chewie back again :-) :chewbacca:


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Rumor has it that the protagonist for the next trilogy with be a female skywalker...


Post Posted: January 8th 2013 4:38 pm
 
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Wasn't Luke Skywalker originally a girl in some early draft of Star Wars?

Kinda makes sense that they'd go this route considering the constant recycling of ideas throughout the Saga. Plus, it'd tap into the teenybopper demographic that $lung the Harry Potter and Twilight movies into a worldwide phenomena.


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Disney knows it's game well....well, at least i thought so. Then they go and cancel Tron Uprising like a bunch of douches and make me doubt them again.


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I think the female Skywalker rumor has been around since ROTJ. Images of female Luke are below.

Regarding actresses, I suppose Megan Fox is making a subtle bid with this tweet: Megan Fox Owns A Life-Sized R2-D2. Personally, I think Jennifer Lawrence has the acting chops and onscreen toughness to play the granddaughter of Darth Vader. Plus, she may bring in a female audience since she is lead in The Hunger Games franchise.

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Still don't think the 'Berg is a good choice. He hasn't been able to show he can pull of light, action-adventure in anything he's tried for like a decade at least. Vaughn...it's going to be Vaughn.


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Still don't think the 'Berg is a good choice. He hasn't been able to show he can pull of light, action-adventure in anything he's tried for like a decade at least. Vaughn...it's going to be Vaughn.


Tintin? But yeah, I doubt it's going to be Spielberg.


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You wanted an example of "light, action-adventure" movie, so I gave you one. Whether you like it or not is another story.
I can't watch Close Encounters or ET nowadays either.


Nooo...I said he hasn't demonstrated any ability to pull off light adventure. Could name a ton of shitty light adventures, my point is that Spielberg doesn't seem to have any kind of handle on that tone anymore, ergo, he would not have been my choice. Anyhoo, all academic now!

Mike is right, I have an enormous fear that this is going to be a big shaky-cam party with bizarre TV lighting that looks and feels nothing like SW. Abrams seems to have an intellectual understanding of how these movies go, but can't develop any heart. Arndt may have done a fantastic analysis on why SW works, but he's never translated that to a thoroughly satisfying script. It's not an outright disaster, but this does nothing to make me feel any more confident in this little project.


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Latest rumour EXCLUSIVE: STAR WARS EPISODE VII TAKES PLACE 30 YEARS AFTER; DISCIPLE OF PALPATINE; PLOT INFO


Post Posted: March 19th 2013 7:40 pm
 
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Interesting. Is Maul Palpatine’s protégée who has been iced in carbonite since the Clone Wars?

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Fassbender would be a great choice in any role.

I’m commenting on this super late; but, I agree. Given his Teutonic roots, I can picture Fassbinder as a Mandalorian. He could play a Fenn Shysa type Mandalorian Protector (a.k.a. good guy Boba Fett’s). His character could be the son or grandson of Bo-Katan Kryze.


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Based on the rumours that the ST deals with the Skywalker kids having to confront their family's history with the dark side, do we get a moment in the sequel trilogy that resembles:

"Ben, why didn't you tell me..."

I sure as hell hope so.

I can see Luke wanting to keep that part hidden from the next generation so they aren't tempted to follow the same path.


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Based on the rumours that the ST deals with the Skywalker kids having to confront their family's history with the dark side, do we get a moment in the sequel trilogy that resembles:

"Ben, why didn't you tell me..."

I sure as hell hope so.

I can see Luke wanting to keep that part hidden from the next generation so they aren't tempted to follow the same path.


that makes a lot of sense, and "he who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it" is a theme I could easily see Lucas embracing and sticking into his ST treatments.


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Elder Luke: "Darth Vader was... your grandfather!"

Skywalker children: "Nooo! That's not true! That's impossible!"

Eh. No.

Playing up the angle of hiding such a devastating truth is too redundant and obvious. I really hope they've got something fresher in store for us.

But I admire fan attempts to guess how this'll all shake out. Fun to read and think about regardless of how likely or unlikely it may seem.


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Don't expect 7 to be "shrouded in mystery" apparently

Wonder how JJ feels about this apparent lack of mystery Kennedy is talking about here.


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According to this article from IGN, some Disney employees, namely Imagineers, may already know some of the plot and characters from Episode VII.

Does MF have members that are Imagineers? :jedi:


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The latest round of rumors (if true) just reeks of Abrams's penchant for nostalgia.

The only believable way this will work is if the movie begins with all three in peril or on some kind of mission. If the movie has some kind of "long time no see" scene between the three then he's screwed up in a big way. If the movie is going to focus on Luke, Han and Leia the bond has to be there from the outset, otherwise it's just another one of these getting the band back together-type movies and who wants to see that done to these characters?


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...otherwise it's just another one of these getting the band back together-type movies and who wants to see that done to these characters?


That's exactly what the first act of ROTJ was, so I don't see the problem.


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Joe1138 wrote:
...otherwise it's just another one of these getting the band back together-type movies and who wants to see that done to these characters?

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That's exactly what the first act of ROTJ was, so I don't see the problem.


I acknowledge that but here's my contention: Jedi was coming three years after Empire and resolved a plot thread left hanging by that film. Episode VII is continuing a story that, for all intents and purposes, has ended.


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The re-introduction to the original cadre of heroes should play out like this:



Luke: Hey Leia, we're back!
Leia: Let's go get Han and Chewie!


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Joe1138 wrote:

I acknowledge that but here's my contention: Jedi was coming three years after Empire and resolved a plot thread left hanging by that film. Episode VII is continuing a story that, for all intents and purposes, has ended.


You are right on point.


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Joe1138 wrote:
Episode VII is continuing a story that, for all intents and purposes, has ended.


I can see that. But then we are either going to accept the basic plot of these movies, or we aren't. If we go into this with the attitude that this is just a useless extension of the classic trilogy, then yeah it's going to suck Bantha balls.

If it turns out to be a good movie and trilogy that deepens the Star Wars saga, then cool.


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We say it ended, but then we all say that we love the Thrawn trilogy, which obviously proves that the story doesn't end.

There was much left un-resolved at the end of ROTJ.

Yes, the Emperor was dead.
Yes, we have an end to Anakin's story.
No, we do not have an end to Luke/Leia/Han/Rebellion/Empire/Jedi/Sith stories.

And if it wasn't for the prequel's, I would dare say that Star Wars was about Luke, not about Anakin's rise and fall.

Look, it's 2 years away, why don't we get some solid details before we start hating on it.


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I think it's a mistake to bring out Han/Luke/Leia vis-à-vis Harrison/Mark/Carrie for Episode VII, and here's why:

In music, the world and popular culture, there's a reason individuals like James Dean, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, John and Robert Kennedy remain as mythic and popular as they are. They died young, and in the public's mind, they always stayed young. It's a romantic idea, because fundamentally, people are suckers for a combination of youth and nostalgia. This phenomenon works remarkably well with Star Wars, and especially the OT.

I believe a reason Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls didn't work for the general public (even though it made s shit-ton of money) was the simple fact that Harrison Ford was old. We lost our suspension of disbelief that Indy was this indestructible, larger-than-life figure that could get out of any situation, no matter how dicey. So many of us were so young when the original 3 Indy and Star Wars movies came out, the characters' youth and immortality was immensely appealing to us. But in 2008, we didn't see "Indy," we saw a man who was 3 years beyond mandatory retirement age swinging through Area 51 on his whip. I don't think people bought into it the way they did in 1981, 1984 and 1989.

I fear the same dynamic would grip Ep. VII should the 3 OT mainstays play a major role. We're all older and have a much more realistic view of the world. We already reacted negatively to an aged Harrison Ford trying to revive the 25-years-younger version of himself. We all see Carrie Fisher in, let's say, not quite as good of a mental, emotional or physical condition as she was in 1983. Mark is now a few years older now than Alec Guiness was when ANH was filmed. Can he really portray the ass-kicking Luke we've all imagined post-ROJ over the years?

Ep. VII with our 3 old friends would work best (IMO) with them showing up at the beginning, eliciting smiles and cheers from us, and they gradually fade from the picture from Act 1 into Act 2 of the movie. By the time Act 3 comes around, they either stay in the background or fade away completely and hand the stage to the new characters. That way, Han/Luke/Leia can be there to pull us into the new story, giving us familiar ground and faces with which to get engaged into the new story, new era and new people that will pick everything up into Ep. VIII and Ep. IX. I relate it to Obi-Wan taking off his hood and saying the oft-repeated phrase "I have a bad feeling about this" in the opening moments of TPM. It gave the audience something they knew to cling to as the new story began to unfold.


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Yes, we have an end to Anakin's story.

Do we? His soul is saved, but that doesn't mean he's fully absolved his sins.

Cryostar wrote:
Look, it's 2 years away, why don't we get some solid details before we start hating on it.


Yep. While it does seem like Abrams is hitting the nostalgia button a little too hard, I'm not going to worry until I have something concrete to frown about.

As a whole, Abrams is a smart guy who will probably make an entertaining film.


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And lens flare...


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Grain of salt time people, but this does seem interesting.

Exclusive: Star Wars: Episode VII Said To Feature Force Ghost Yoda & Past Jedi


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
Do we? His soul is saved, but that doesn't mean he's fully absolved his sins.


He became one with the Force, I thought that was implied.


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Sounds cool, but who is Alec McGuiness? :oops:


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
Do we? His soul is saved, but that doesn't mean he's fully absolved his sins.

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He became one with the Force, I thought that was implied.


Personally, I see Vader more as "rescued" than redeemed. With Return of the Jedi, the Annotated Screenplays discuss a key scene from a prior draft:


“Vader and Luke are on their way to the throne room .... suddenly Ben appears in their path .... Ben explains that he has come to save him, that the Emperor wants to destroy him. If Vader becomes one with the dark side of the Force, he will lose all identify. If he turns to the good side, he will pass through the Netherworld and Ben will rescue him before he becomes one with the Force.”

It’s obvious that Luke’s turning of Vader allowed for Anakin's deliverance. However, this act may only be a sign of his escape from the Netherworld and not proof of the redemption of his soul. He may have to go through a purgatorial period like Hamlet’s phantom father (see the 5:49 mark) before he has been fully absolved of his past crimes.

Consequently, this approach could pave the way for an older actor to portray the spirit of Anakin (if he is to appear in future episodes). Visually, it makes sense to have Anakin’s ghost physically age as he approaches the end of his spiritual existence. Plus, it would remove the weirdness of having Hamill address a younger actor as his father.

Overall, I wonder what the true end stage is for the Chosen One. Rather than becoming one with The Force like an ordinary mortal, would he become The Force itself?


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i t should begin with a pan down then instead of the star destroyer coming over head the falcon swoops over head followed by the enire empire shooting at them cut to cockpit with all the originals trying to jump to hyperspace :chewbacca:


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A rumor (which doesn't make any sense) is below. The gist: While important E7 characters are not established EU characters, they do appropriate trademark characteristics from established EU characters.

New Star Wars: Episode 7 Rumors. More on Mara Jade, the Star Wars Canon and Michael Arndt Working on Episode 8

In this manner, the new Episodes can be weighted down by the EU and plow over the EU's continuity at the same time. Huh?


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:

In this manner, the new Episodes can be weighted down by the EU and plow over the EU's continuity at the same time. Huh?


They have all this material, they might as well use it to a certain extent. But why limit themselves to what's in some 20+ year old comic books? Why limit their creativity while writing this new trilogy? Makes sense to me to use whatever the hell they want, "canon" or not.

I remember people going apeshit back in 1999 because the name "Bail Antilles" was mentioned in TPM. They thought it was a mistake. I was like, "How is it a mistake? Why can't it be someone else?"


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http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/em ... de-7/91290

Will we be getting somekind of "Heir to the Empire" after all ?


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Dark Empire...


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This is probably total bullshit, but someone on IMDB posting this today:

:siren: POTENTIAL SPOILERS :siren:

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Out of respect for the fans/film makers , no narrative arc will be noted.


Again, [Spoiler Caution]


Villain(s) / Max Von Sydow - Darth Plagueis

While Max has been announced as a cast member, he won't actually make an appearance in this film. Disney had an outline for the entire trilogy from the beginning and knew about Plaguies being vital to the story (how do you top the Emperor, anyway.) Due to his age, most of Max's scenes would be filmed during Ep. 7, since his availability may be limited (or non-existent) in future episodes. He'll likely be seen via holograms in the next film (ala ESB) before finally appearing in the flesh by Ep9...his death being the climax (and likely filmed with stunt doubles.)


Sith Protectors

Lupita Nyong'o - Vena [in early script]
Christina Chong - Ova [early script]


The dichotomy of two (Master/apprentice) will be slightly different in this film, due the shift in mythological themes. A single underlying evil remains, though is surrounded by 'protectors', who also serve as spies/liaisons. The classic aesthetic of these film's can't be overstated and they've referenced early McQuarrie art for The Plaeiguies lair. Early draft had him immaterial, communicating through the force to susceptive minds (see Vodemort.) Since the dark side in this film is more stratified, several key characters fall victim to Plaeiguies' scheme.


Empire/Rebels

Gwendoline Christie - General Vos [early script]

Despite the passage of time, and much like real world politics, the Galaxy is still not at peace. Even though the Empire as we knew it has been overthrown, several individuals [factions] have split, remaining loyal to the prior regime. In a sense, there are rebels on both sides. Since they lack a dictatorlike leader, the Imperials basically operate as a police state, headed by General Vos. It's important to note that the relationship here is less good and evil and more a tense rivalry [think a more vitriolic Republican/Democratic dichotomy] with both sides adhering to a core understanding (Rebels even use old Imperial ships for reconnaissance, for example.)


Jedi / Offspring and Old Friends


Mark Hammill - "Master Luke"
Daisy Ridley - kira
Adam Driver - Jona [early script]
Harrison Ford - Han Solo
Carrie Fisher -Leia Organa


Not surprising, Luke is a recluse. Having done his duty, he has taken abode on Tatooine, his home world and is uncle and mentor to.....Kira. Even though frustrated by life on this planet, she adores Luke and heeds his wisdom. Kira is sister to Jona, a New Republic pilot who spends most of his time serving in the Rebel Fleet. They are both the offspring of Han and Leia. Arndt originally had Jona on Tat and Kira with her parents, but that was since switched. To JJ's credit, this was an incredibly brave move. Han and Leia are estranged and never married.


Contemporaries / New Comers and Tragedy

Oscar Isaac - Kane [early script]
Andy Serkis - Orgo
John Boyega - Ren

Leia is the equivalent of Chancellor. She wanted Jona[now Kira] to lead a simpler life and not get caught up in the bureaucracy of New Republic affairs. She also was subconsciously concerned about her well being since kira is apparently more powerful than her brother. On Tatooine Kira is best friends with Orgo, a cyborg border guard. Han is commander of the Rebel Fleet. Kane Is co-pilot and inherits the Falcon when Han & Leia......perish (heroically.) Though tragic, their deaths serve an inevitable and necessary plot point: Kira now is thrust onto a new path and will be trained by Luke (naturally.) Kane travels to Kashyyyk and in an endearing exchange (admittedly, I shed a tear) Chewie supplants Han as co-pilot, continuous his life debt. Jona is overcome with grief and disappears for the rest of the film, presumably to avenge their deaths. He will likely be the fallen hero throughout the trilogy, though this isn't really made made clear in this draft.

Ren, a fellow pilot and friend of Jona, arrives on Tatooine to relay the bad news, though Luke has already felt it. With the aid of Orgo, they navigate the remote wilderness enroute to Mos Eisely to get off world. The emphasis is mainly on Kira now. There is sensual tension between Kane and Kira (I'm sure you can sense where that's headed.)


Plot Outline
During an important Galactic Forum, when both sides are close to an agreement on unification, it is learned that a massive weapon has been built into the surface of Coruscant [This apparently was an early alternative to the Death Star and was abandoned follwing the events of TPT. It is suggested that the 'ruined' part of the planet seen in AOTC was an early construction site, and has since been refurbished for this new super weapon.) This was a masterful move by DP, having learned from the faults of a stand alone Death Star. It's made all the more ominous due to the fact that Coruscant can't be destroyed to solve the problem. The NRSenate is outraged, though it is unclear who is responsible. The Imperial faction is blamed and a war ensues.



Locations.

Tatooine (Mos Espa makes makes an appearance in this film [one scene], though it isn't a space port.)

Dantooine (a Rebel Mainstay)

Coruscant (New Republic Alliance)

Kashyyyk (Brief scene)

Mustafar (Plaguies Lair)

Cyrene (Training Locale)


A Few Other Notes

-Contrary to popular assumption, the Jedi are not plentiful in this film (there is substantial dialogue that explains this.)
It also serves the story by having the protagonist go through an ordeal (loss, epiphany, adventure, growth) which is a universal structure (i.e. If the prime characters were fully seasoned Jedi already, that wouldn't leave much room for a a story arc.) Film is also very female heavy (this is also explained).
-Film will mark the first time we see the construction of a light saber on screen (though this may have been cut from final script.)
-This film is saturated in CT references (production and dialogue wise) though it never comes across as gratuitous.
There are several scenes that parallel A New Hope.
-There is a key flashback scene towards the beginning of the film featuring the actor Domhall Gleeson, Billie Lorde, Pip Anderson and others.
- Early draft titles were A New Threat and The Shadow Heir (the latter being moved to the second film for story purposes


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I feel like a lot of that is BS.


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sounds very unlikely...


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I can buy Gwendoline Christie as Vos and Ventress' love child. So, I can't completely blow it off. Maybe the trailer will help confirm or dismiss?


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Harrison Ford - Han Solo
Carrie Fisher -Leia Organa


I think they may be onto something there...
The rest is total bo***cks though.


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Maybe these Sith Protectors are dressed in armor like Bane and not-Revan? Assuming this isn't bs. :wookiee:


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With all the talk about Boyega being a stormtrooper and being one of the main cast this rumour seems to thrust him into an almost tertiary role, and that's the main reason I don't buy it.

Still it's interesting, in all of the rumours we've heard so far, this is the first one that actually acknowledged Gleeson and Anderson. Things have been very quite related to those two.


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Acts I and II spoilers from a 4chan leaker could be bull but it's a fun read:

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indeed....


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hmm... sounds pretty legit. A lot going on there. Interesting.


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Sounds cool to me.


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It's just extrapolating from the recent trailer, rumors and concept art. None of this is new info that we haven't seen or heard before.


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So the most recent spoiler is that Domhnall Gleeson is Luke's son, and that Boyega, Daisy, Lupita, Dom and Driver are all force-sensitive, however Boyega will be THE Skywalker-type for this trilogy. I'm happy that we have Luke's offspring in some form now, so i'm resting easier.


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I'm not sure if this is relevant to episode VII or not, but an interesting official discussion about Force ghosts is below. Filoni seems to confirm that Force ghosts are only for the righteous. If so, does this mean that a Sith can only come back in a reanimated physical form? (Is Driver's character obsessed with Sith artifacts because he wants to bring someone back from the dead? Is that person cyborg?)



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Sounds an awful lot like Darth Plagueis has awakened to me.

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