Interesting conversation you seem to have there AM.

This really flies in the face of everything that was said on set - particularily from Pabs and Carl. Even Ens admitted he creamed himself after reading the shooting script. From everything we've seen from webdocs to Insider scans, webcams to BTH this movie looks nothing short of fucken inspiring.

I have taken your sources info and attitude on board and quickly dismissed it. Like benovite said, there's too much happening here for it to suck story-wise, dunno about the dialogue yet. It seems his info was all pre-production and quite possibly old hand...?

Once again, no disrespect to you, just my take on things. :tbone:

And that's what I like to hear SI.

or it could be no-one here likes to hear LFL employess talkin' trash about EPIII.

At the OS, the new webdoc is up plus the trailer for the OT DVD (both in Hyperspace).

You can tell how much Lucas "doesn't care".

I don't get it. Why did Lucas decide to direct the PT?

He's a top producer and has a very good feeling in gathering the best of the best around him. But everytime I see him direct he looks so unhappy and bored. Like he's forced to do it.

Well, I remember before AOTC came out, there was quite a negative buzz, 2-3 months before the event. However, when it came out, I loved it! So, I'm not going to get worried until I actually see the finished product.

I find it hard to believe that George has stopped caring about Star Wars. In the past, he has always said that Episode III is the one he is most looking forward to doing, because of the darkness and betrayal that inhernat in the film. I think a lot of this, could be that many people have had an idea about how Episode III should play out, since before TPM was made. Obviously this film is not going to cater to everybody's idea's, and anybody who hated TPM and AOTC will no doubt hate this movie.

Ultimatly, I believe Lucas will deliver with this movie, and I just can't believe that a movie that focus's on Ian Mcdiarmid, more than any of the others, will be poor.

Now would be a great time to hear back from OBSERVATION, who I believe was legit.

I think you're forgetting when Harry Knowles 'test screened' Episode 2...Surely, the only opinion that mattered...

Like he's forced to do it.

You're delusional. The webdocs show the exact opposite. I guess that happy welcome of Sam Jackson was all fake. He could easily get someone else to direct the movie if he "didn't care".

And the Tion Meddon costume shows it's not "low budget".

What the fuck has the welcome of Sam Jackson to do with this?

What the fuck has the welcome of Sam Jackson to do with this?

Just one example among many that show Lucas enjoying himself while directing the movie. The webdocs and webcam make it clear he's enjoying it.

Random thoughts based on things people have said.

Someone was talking about "PROOF" and there's never going to be any proof. If you asked Lucas, he'd say he always meant for Greedo to shoot first. And he might actually believe it... but he directed the scene way back when SO he made the choice for Greedo not to shoot first.

And we'll never know if Lucas likes directing or not. These promotional videos are not going to show Lucas sitting in misery, and screaming at the top of his lungs.


So we have to come to conclusions based on everything we know.

My opinion: I think Lucas is probably like anybody... he loves the creative and power part of directing, and hates the more tedious stuff like scheduling and budgeting.

As for the artists, I bet they love the creative freedom they have... yet hate that Lucas appears to be so detached from the process; only showing up like an emporer to give thumbs up or thumbs down.


Now about this insider... he might be a bitter guy who hates his boss OR he might be a fan like us who can't believe the most important prequel movie is being sent down the tubes. To accept what he says on face value is as wrong as DISMISSING WHAT HE SAYS!

As I wrote earlier, I heard those "mannequin skywalker" complaints about Jake Lloyd... after seeing the film, I thought they were completely correct. I heard that "love story sucks/action is awesome" rumor about EpII... and after seeing the film, I felt the same way.


I would really love to hear more specific things from this insider.

Lucas is obviously happy leaving Coleman and Knoll in charge of ILM. Why would anybody want him hanging around ILM all day? Isn't it more important he spends most of his time with Roger Barton, editing the movie?

And we'll never know if Lucas likes directing or not.

The quoted insider claim was "Doesn't give a fuck anymore." That statement is falsified by Lucas actually taking the time to direct himself instead of having someone else do it. Simple logic. The insider is wrong.

Actually, Lucas is a total control freak. He doesn't trust anyone else to direct what are his own strong ideas. Doesn't mean he enjoys it.

Doesn't mean he enjoys it.

Yet another post that fails to give any evidence whatsoever for "Doesn't give a fuck anymore."

But if he is a "total control freak", then why are the artists supposedly whining about having to create stuff by themselves and doing Lucas' job for him?

IMO, although the webdocs and interviews are certainly edited, I just don't get the impression that Lucas doesn't "give a fuck". As for the pre-production art being shit, from what we've seen so far (which is actually quite a bit) I think it's bullshit, the designs are fine. But, like SI said, we still don't know about the dialogue or the final script, so that could go either way. I wish Art Maul's source had been a bit more specific about what he didn't like.

I'm wondering if Artmauls source likes episodes 1 and 2. Is he into episodes 4, 5, and 6?

-Jason

Let me make an overall point.

I come to these boards because I like the spoilers from insiders and I like to talk to other SW fans. I think everybody else does too.

BUT I hate the general vibe that floats over some of these boards ESPECIALLY TF.n. What vibe you ask?

Well, here we have an EpIII insider who's been cool enough to share some gossip to Artmaul. But suddenly because its negative insider gossip, most seem to be saying "Hey insider, go to hell. If its not GLOWING insider stuff, we don't want to hear it. You must be a bitter a-hole who doesn't know what he's talking about."

IMHO, that's just so ridiculous.

As of today, nobody (not even Lucas or people whom worked on the film) know if the film's going to be any good or not. It might be Oscar worthy; It might suck.

I want to hear from any and all insiders out there, and would love more specifics from Artmaul's penpal

*sigh*

How many times does it need to be said? The problem is not the negativity, it is the irrationality.

If the insider had said, "Here is some dialog and look at how poor it is" or "Lucas was overheard to say he doesn't care anymore" or "the budget has been officially decreased by X% from AOTC" then we could discuss it. We weren't given any substance.

We must be really desperate for spoilers. The insider's "report" was devoid of information. If the same post was at TF.N, it would be treated harshly by the regulars here. Inter-board competition has that effect on objectivity.

ekm, take it to MFYAD

In the THX VHS versions from '93 Leonard Maltin interviews GL who says he will direct the first prequel and let another director take the reins for II and III.

First and last warning (this goes to anyone):

PLEASE CEASE ANY FLAMES TOWARDS OTHER POSTERS IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU WANT TO RAG SOMEONE TAKE IT TO ANARCHY!