the new Star Trek film has a full title now. "Into Darkness" with no colon either.

villains:
Benedict Cumberbatch - Gary Mitchell (rumored)
Klingons
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Release Date: May 17, 2013

This is Gary Mitchell. Seen in the second pilot episode, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" He is a friend of Kirks who gains super powers after being "probed" and goes on a god-trip man killing spree. Kirk judo chops him and shoots a phaser rifle at some rocks which kills Mitchell.

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9 minute preview that's playing in front of 3D Hobbit is here for download. you're welcome!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/f4jepo

Thanks for posting!

Looks as good as the first one.

It seems like this flick is going to be retread of Wrath of Khan with some role reversals. In fact I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts the ending will involve Kirk sacrificing himself for the greater good with Spock disobeying orders and trying to save his friend and Kirk telling him that the needs of many outweigh the needs of the few.

Well, it's been viewed in places now... joe1138..it seems you were more right than I had hoped.

http:// http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/04/star- ... -spoilers/

I’ve not seen the film yet, but I look forward to reading other’s reactions. Based on the few reviews I’ve read, the film is good yet hamstrung. The plot overthinks (or tries too hard to outthink) the existing mythology. As a result, the story suffers. Interestingly, I read a review citing Abrams’ shaking–cam cinematography as a plus for the movie.

As a whole, I’m not sure what this all means for the next Star Wars movie.

Just got back from it.

I am the opposite of a Trekkie. In fact, I think every Star Trek movie I've seen - most of the original cast films - is completely unwatchable (including Wrath of Kahn). Trek fans should literally kiss the ground JJ Abrams walks on for making their beloved franchise relevant again. In other words, I am a Star Wars fan and, like JJ Abrams, I could not find an "in" into the Trek universe with the tone and style being as it was. If I - and the majority of the moviegoing public - was ever to appreciate or care about the voyages of the Enterprise, the series needed a serious makeover. It would alienate the geeks of course, but it needed to be done.

I'm a big fan of the 2009 movie. I really am not going to entertain any bullshit discussion about the logic of black holes or time travel. I really don't care about what the geeks think of this alternate timeline. I just know it was accessible and entertaining, albeit with a few lulls in the pacing. Which brings us to the sequel that in my opinion outshines the 2009 movie in almost every way. And about the pacing...we've seen a shitload of fast-paced summer blockbusters over the years, but I honestly think this is one of the most exciting fast-paced summer blockbusters I've ever seen. Faster-paced than ANY Star Wars movie and always on point.

Is it a rehash of Kahn? In large part, yes it is. But you know what? It's about 100 times better than Wrath of Kahn (burn me at the stake Trek losers but you're the only people on Earth that will think the "original" is better than Into Darkness). As for the "twists," I believe they were clever enough and never distracting (as in a twist for the sake of a twist). The film is filled with homages to the earlier series but never out of context to make things feel awkward. The action is literally fantastic, in particular the space suit scene through the debris.

Is there stuff JJ still needs work on? Sure - as a director I still don't think he's able to inject soul and heart into his films the way Spielberg did but that's an awfully tough standard to hold somebody to. I think the last thing he has to master is getting the pacing just right so he can allow the film to breath and let the characters tell the story. Most of his films are too plot driven, which puts the director's work front and centre and erodes a bit of the "magic" of watching a fairy tale play out naturally. I suppose we can attribute this partially to the work of his writing squad who tends to be all about thick narratives. Michael Arndt's writing style could mellow this and JJ might find his perfect match.

Speaking of Star Wars, if this film is a primer for JJ Abrams' foray into the Galaxy Far Far Away, I think Star Wars in great hands. There were so many scenes in this movie I wished he saved for Star Wars. I know he's going to deliver a great product without putting too many Abramsisms in there to distract the audience.

In short, go see it. It blows the mediocre Iron Man 3 out of the water and might be the best movie you see this summer.

Regarding the 3D, it was very well done. I think i remarked 3 or 5 times to my buddy during the movie how well thought out the 3D was. Worth the extra bucks even if the trick goes away mid-way through.

[spoil]Trekkies are really pissed off about Spock taking over the "KAHNN!" line but from a cinematic standpoint, I think they nailed it. It worked perfectly in the context of this reverse timeline story.[/spoil]

Thanks for the review! Sounds like about what I expected from the previews, and not in a bad way. Hell, Hollywood has been remaking and rehashing shit for the last decade. It sounds like that if they did that here at least they did it in an entertaining way. I'll take a "Wrath of Kahn" redux if it's as fun to watch as it sounds.

Thanks CoGro!

Another thing I should say is that JJ Abrams knows EXACTLY how to use CGI and visual effects. There isn't a single bad effect in the entire flick. Just like the 2009 film this one uses about every trick of the trade, which can look awfully crappy if done improperly but the execution is flawless. One of ILM's most impressive - if not their most impressive - film of the last 10 years. Far better than their work on the Avengers (which was good in its own right).

Again: bodes very well for Star Wars.

I just saw this, and fucking loved it. Story-wise, I can only describe it as a parallel-universe-prequel-sequel.

I have also never been very much into Trek, but loved JJA's 2009 movie, and this. I can't understand the problems Trekkies have with these new Trek movies. They're imaginative, fun and even mind-bending at times.
With all the imagination, sci-fi mumbo-jumbo, warp-speed fantasy of this series, why can't the Trekkies imagine that there would be an alternate time-space continuum or alternate-reality to these stories?

And that blonde chick was fucking hot. Love a girl with a killer bod and bomb-diffusing brains.

loved this movie up until the last 10 minutes. Talk about an absolute cheat!

[spoil]Kirk just wakes up fine as day in a hospital bed??!! Come on! How bout a cliff hanger! That should have left him in that cryo-tube along with Khan's frozen crew . Let the story continue into the next movie. Leave me wanting more! They just had to put a shiny bow on the story and wrap it up nice and tight. They should have had Khan escape, alive but missing his crew, knowing that the Enterprise had them. Kirk should have been kept frozen, with Spock needing to find Khan in order to save Jim. There's your next movie. [/spoil]

But Robocop was a badass and I loved seeing him on the screen again. 9.5/10 minus .25 for lamely designed Klingons and .25 for hurried ending.

[spoil]Bones said that Kirk had been in a coma for a couple of weeks.[/spoil]

It would have been REALLY ballsy had

[spoil]they let Kirk die and that been the cliffhanger[/spoil]

but I got the sense that they wanted to give this movie a bit of closure so that it COULD spawn a sequel, but if this film were to be JJ's last it would have an ending.

Just got back from this.

Some quick thoughts:

-I liked the beginning. Reminded me of the occasional prologue-like openings to Indiana Jones and Star Wars.
-I love going on adventures with this crew. Great acting and chemistry among all the leads.
-Abrams' direction reminds me of Spielberg's with his frequent use of wide compositions and dolly-ins. But the action scenes can be less balletic and inventive.
-Excellent visual effects. There was only one long shot of the London explosion that looked a tad shy of stellar.
-The chase and showdown between Spock and "Harrison" was intense and wholly satisfying. Totally loved the look and energy of this part.

I still have high hopes for the new Star Wars episodes. Especially with Arndt and Williams finely complementing a very capable Abrams.

This is also the one of the things that sticks out about Abrams. He's not at Lucas / Spielberg's level when it comes to staging action. It doesn't have the epic quality those guys bring to it. It's missing that mix of clever and choreography.

I.e. the shootout with the Klingons is just people running and explosions happening; too fast to really take in anything truly exciting.

This will need to be fixed when it comes to Star Wars, as the action in those films is pure ballet.

Man, this movie falls apart when you start thinking about it. How come Kahn gets shot one time by Scotty and is out but is able to stand up to about 12 shots from Uhura and just flinches? Where's Earth's defenses from giant falling things from the sky? Why did they need Kahn's Jesus blood when they had 72 other super-humans they could've used to restore life to Jim? Why exactly would someone want to de-thaw a 300 year old dude to have him design new future weapons? If we found a dude from the 1700's alive, I don't think we'd put him to work on the nuclear missile base.

Here’s how it should’ve ended:

[spoil]Jim is NEAR death. McKoy has noticed how Kahn’s blood has life-restorative properties from the Tribble and quickly inserts Jim into a Cryo-tube and freezes him. The only solution to pull Jim through this is a complete transfusion using Kahn’s blood. The Dreadnaught crashes but Kahn escapes with Spock giving chase close behind. They fight with Kahn gaining the upper hand but Uhura beams in to rescue Spock but in the process is about to fall to her own death. Spock has to choose between saving Uhura or capturing Kahn. He chooses Uhura and Kahn uses Scotty’s super-beaming technology to transport himself across the galaxy. We learn that at maximum warp, it will take the Enterprise 5 years to reach where Kahn has gone, thus beginning their five year mission, with Spock as acting Captain and Jim frozen in a cryo-tube. Cliffhanger ending!
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I like your idea for the ending. That actually does make more sense to me.

About your other points:
"How come Kahn gets shot one time by Scotty and is out but is able to stand up to about 12 shots from Uhura and just flinches?"
I thought he was faking it when Scotty shot him.

"Where's Earth's defenses from giant falling things from the sky?"
I wondered that too. Why were the Enterprise and the Deadnaught seemingly the only objects in Earth's orbit, when we have more shit than that in our orbit in 2013?

"Why did they need Kahn's Jesus blood when they had 72 other super-humans they could've used to restore life to Jim?"
They already had Kahn. Better to use what they had, than to take the time thawing out another person.

"Why exactly would someone want to de-thaw a 300 year old dude to have him design new future weapons?"
I thought that Marcus wanted Kahn's super-human strength, first and foremost.

My only issue with the movie is in some smaller editing details, like why do we only see a couple of the weird cyborg or alien Bridge Crew when it's time for their close-ups? Or am I just missing them in the background in other shots?
And where exactly did Carol think she could run to while she was in mid-transporter-mode? Maybe she just panicked for a second? Or did she think that getting on the elevator would cause him to lose her signal before she was transported all the way to the other ship? And if that is the case, wouldn't she run the risk of ending up a pile of inside-out blonde goo on the other side?

I assume the admiral let the defenses know he was on that ship, plus I'm not sure it could have been shot down anyway.

I must have been in the loo when "Harrison" stated his full motivation and why he was "summoned"...

Napoleon or Gengis might be fantastic terrorists today if we could thaw them out. I don't mind that part.

Hi gents I know it's been AGES since I've posted on this forum. Anyways, I recently broke my right foot so I'm unable to see this in theaters. However, I did download a cam version of it and so I was able to watch it.

Being a major Trekkie I am I got to say I liked it a lot. I loved how Abram's changed things around so it wasn't quite a mirror copy of [spoil] The Wrath Of Khan.[/spoil]

There were some things I didn't quite like though with the film but it was definitely better than the 09 version.

Re-watched this today threw the fresh eyes of someone who hadn't seen it before.

Best blockbuster of the summer by miles and amped my excitement for Episode VII.

What's upsetting is that these quality actors were used in Star Trek rather than the sequels. Cumberbatch would be great to have in Star Wars and Chris Pine literally looks like he could be Mark Hamill's son. He could have even made a fantastic Anakin Skywalker.

Super late to the party on this one, but I just got this the other day and I had a busy summer.

Boy, did I wish I had seen this at the theatre. Great movie.

I thought it was great, too.

I haven't bought the Blu Ray yet though, since it seems they have spread the extras out over several different store-based releases (Target, Best Buy, etc.) which really sucks.

Yeah, I kept thinking that through this whole movie. I am not a 'film-snob', not that there is anything wrong with those who are, I simply don't have the time anymore to devote to following who is who or who directs/produces/creates what. So perhaps some of Abrams stylistic choices, transition edits and story progression etc, are things he does all the time, I dunno'. But I got giddy over the idea of a Star Wars version of many of the shots in this film. The opening sequence, much of the action, the FX (from CG to downright trickery) and especially the real-world set-conversions, all of that really had me foaming at the mouth with joy that whoever made this movie was going to be making Star Wars.

And then it dawned on me. I am not a Star Trek fan. I always thought the entire series, except for TNG which I watched as a young adult simply because of the spaceships and counselor Troi's t&a, was a snorefest.

Weird. I was 'aware', but I wasn't a fan. Maybe that's changing. At least with the new stuff.

Also, I dunno' what the big effing deal was about the underwear scene Dr. Marcus had. [spoil]I didn't see this as gratuitous or offensive, and I'd take issue with anyone who really does. If it makes them feel better, I'd totally let the actress see me in my underwear to make up for that brief moment of whogivesashit. She looked a'ight, it wasn't too distracting, and it helps to flesh out Kirk's propensity for habitually lewd conduct. Conduct which I can relate to because I'm not ugly and I can get laid. Maybe that's why I don't mind, I'm already used to the objectification of women. I wouldn't say I'm desensitized. I believe it's something I actually appreciate, which to some is maybe worse. Either way, all I'm getting at is this; please don't take the idea that people are okay to look at semi-clothed out of the world, and while you're at it, get them to add it back into the Star Wars universe. Padme's fetishistic outfits always left me feeling 'creepy for looking' if you know what I mean. We haven't had much 'sexy' in the SW universe since the twilek nipple slip, and that shit was over in what, 1982?? I'm just saying, I buy Star Wars stuff, does the whole damn thing have to be G-rated? [/spoil] [align=center]:mrgreen:[/align] [align=center]Hidden Rant: Click if bored.[/align]