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Post Posted: December 19th 2011 5:29 pm
 
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So anyone else looking forward to this one? Ridley Scott's new Alien prequel/Not Alien prequel film.

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Release date: June 8, 2012

Official Synopsis:

Ridley Scott, director of 'Alien' and 'Blade Runner,' returns to the genre he helped define. With PROMETHEUS, he creates a groundbreaking mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.

Cast:

• Michael Fassbender: "David" (Main character, A robot synthetic)
• Noomi Rapace: "Elizabeth Shaw"
• Charlize Theron: "Meredith Vickers"
• Logan Marshall-Green: "Holloway"

• Idris Elba: "Captain Janek"
• Benedict Wong: "Ravel"
• Emun Elliot: "Chance"

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Post Posted: December 22nd 2011 12:34 am
 
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Speculation: It'll be revealed that humanity is actually a beta version of the Xenomorphs. :mrgreen:


Post Posted: December 22nd 2011 10:03 am
 
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I'm willing to bet (heavily) that you're incorrect.


Post Posted: December 22nd 2011 2:54 pm
 
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Official Trailer:

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/sftuxbvGwiU&fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]


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compare the above trailer with the original Alien trailer from 1979, the music and title reveal especially.
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spoiler images from trailer you might not have noticed:
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standing space jockey
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space jockey mask on table
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Charlize Theron's so fuckable ass. damn i'd make such a whore out of her.
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apparently, the xenomorph doesn't appear in this. the only ties to Alien are the space jockey and his ship.
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Now, onto something else that's is kinda interesting in its own way. way back in August there was a story about the leaked "plot" which was quickly denied as only fan fiction. Now this was before any official pics, teaser trailers, or anything had been shown. read this, and then compare it to the above trailer.....

"fan fiction plot or real deal?"
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PROMETHEUS

CAST
Elizabeth Shaw...Noomi Rapace
Rayden Holloway...Logan Marshall-Green
Meredith Vickers...Charlize Theron
David 4.0...Michael Fassbender
Jeremiah Janek...Idris Elba
Theo Zedmore...Guy Pearce
Logan...Ben Foster
Ravel...Benedict Wong
Chance...Emun Elliot
Mudow...Kate Dickie
Yuri...Rafe Spall
Aldrich...Frank Kelly
Francis...Sean Harris
Siena...Tal Berkovich
Lettap...James Payton
Tembrook...Tuppence Middleton


Earth. The beginnings of our world. In an opening montage, we watch as our primordial planet is terraformed and bioformed by seemingly all-powerful, Godlike alien entities…the ENGINEERS. The seeds of life are introduced to Earth for the first time by these fantastic extra-terrestrials, who have the power to create and manipulate both mechanical and biological matter at will. The montage ends as the earliest genetic recipe for life is sent forth from the Engineers’ massive, towering CITADEL in the dark desert.

The desolate desert of Africa: 2085. The prehistoric ruins of the Engineers’ Citadel is discovered by a corporate construction team tasked with building a nuclear-powered comm-array in the wilderness. Amidst the ancient remains are found highly advanced, biomechanical relics with are determined to be of extra-terrestrial origin. This catches the attention of the mega-conglomerate WEYLAND-YUTANI CORPOTATION, who finances a massive archaeological excavation of the citadel in the hopes of reverse-engineering the alien biotech for financial gain. Running the operation is MEREDITH VICKERS, a cold, calculating corporate executive, who recruits intelligent and independent astrophysicist DR. ELIZABETH SHAW to head up the research team. Assisting Dr. Shaw are xenoarchaeologist DR. THEO ZEDMORE and her fellow astrophysicist DR. LOGAN. Shaw uncovers the secret of the citadel when she discovers a chamber of star charts, which seem to lead the way to the home planet of the Engineers. Also uncovered is evidence suggesting that the Engineers had a database of all life on Earth, and may even have been responsible for its creation including Man.

In a partially-submerged MANHATTAN, Vickers meets with Dr. Shaw and an OPO, (Off-Planet-Officer), CAPTAIN JERAMIAH JANEK, and plans a space mission following the discovered star charts in an effort to find and make first contact with the Engineers. For the scientists and explorers onboard, it will be a journey of discovery, but for Vickers, it’s merely a way of obtaining new technology so that Weyland-Yutani may retain the lead in the competitive race to establish colonies off-world.

The depths of space: 2090. A highly-advanced, top-of-the-line ISRV (Interstellar Research Vessel) PROMETHEUS decelerates as it reaches its target solar system. The vessel’s crew emerges from their cryo-chambers. Along with Elizabeth Shaw, Theo Zedmore, Logan, Meredith Vickers, and Captain Janek, the crew of the Prometheus is comprised of: First Officer MUDOW, Security Officer RAYDEN HOLLOWAY, Navigator CHANCE, Helm Officer RAVEL, Operations Android DAVID 4.0, Political Officer ALDRICH, Medical Officer FRANCIS, Engineer YURI, and Technical Officers SIENA, LETTUP, and TEMBROOK. The crew gets acclimated to their removal from cryo-sleep, their muscles in atrophy from five years without use. Holloway assists Shaw in her physical therapy exercises.

The crew prepares for arrival at the home planet of the Engineers. Shaw and Holloway are instantly attracted to each other, initiating a romantic relationship. However, as they enter the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, Prometheus encounters a massive disturbance which hadn’t appeared on scanners, one even more powerful than a black hole: a wormhole in space. Prometheus is sucked into the wormhole, and after a harrowing ride, emerges on the other end. The ship crashes on a barren planet, which the damaged computer system identifies as the mission’s final destination.

The crew sets about attempting to repair the Prometheus, while Elizabeth Shaw leads a recon expedition to investigate nearby structures, which turn out to be a cavernous Engineer temple. Inside the temple, Shaw’s team encounters a bizarre BIO-BRAIN, a biomechanical humanoid face set within a towering pillar, as well as thousands of seemingly primitive URNS. David takes several of the urns back to the vessel for analysis.

Investigating the urns, David discovers that they contain the genetic material for thousands of species within a viscous liquid called BIOFORMER which can rewrite any living organism on a cellular level. Basically, possession of the substance gives its owner the power to create life. Vickers interacts with David and seemingly innocently leads to the Bioformer infecting David through a cut in his finger.

Within the depths of the Temple, we find several living Engineers who discover the transgression of the Humans, and remotely rewrite the stolen Bioformer to make it into a weapon. The Engineers capture Holloway and run a number of horrific experiments on him, injecting him with the Bioformer and allowing him to return to the vessel.

Subsequently, the crew of the Prometheus begins to fall victim to the now weaponized substance, as the “carrier” Holloway injects Ravel, Zedmore, Francis, Siena, Lettup, and Tembrook. The victims begin to lose their humanity and slowly transform, experiencing nightmarish visions and hallucinations and making pilgrimages to the depths of the Temple to receive instructions from the Bio-Brain. Holloway, in particular, is resistant to the transformation, fighting against the alien influence with his feelings for Shaw and his responsibilities as security officer. Meanwhile, David finds that the Bioformer is making him into a biological being…making him Human. The crew also finds that their trip through the wormhole took them back hundreds of millions of years and they are actually stranded on primordial Earth, having moved through space and time.

Eventually, as alien influence and the continued lurking presence of the Engineers becomes clear, the crew of the Prometheus turns on each other as the infected human victims fully mutate into PROTOFORMS: vicious, skeletal alien monstrosities which proceed to assault the unaffected Human crew through the halls of the Prometheus.

Mudow, Logan, Chance, Aldrich, Yuri, and Janek end up being destroyed by the Protoforms. In a strange, erotic ceremony, the Protoforms seemingly mate with the Bio-Brain and each other to create thousands of EGGS, the first of a new generation of the monsters. Meredith Vickers is revealed to be a sleeper CONSTRUCT of the Engineers, who are still active in their far future and Shaw’s present due to the time-travelling abilities of the wormhole. Vickers was grown in an Engineer lab but escaped, fleeing to Earth while always wanting to her find creators and take their power. The Engineers activate Vickers’ secondary GENE PROGRAMMING, and she transforms into an ALPHA PROTOFORM: the STAR BEAST.

At last, the two remaining crew members, Elizabeth Shaw and David, seek to confront the Engineers in the Temple. The Godlike entities prove to be utterly evil, and David sacrifices himself as he’s dissolved in the LIFE SEED BIOFORMER which is the basic genetic recipe for MAN: the former android David, it turns out, is the basis for all Mankind. Shaw is captured by Holloway, but he regains enough of his humanity to remotely activate an Engineer vessel for Shaw’s escape, then holds the other Protoforms and Engineers at bay. As Shaw escapes, she finds herself in the midst of the initial Engineer terraforming of Earth which we had witnessed in the opening montage, chased by the former Meredith Vickers who is now the gigantic, horrific Star Beast.

Shaw makes to her escape vessel which blasts off for the wormhole, Holloway fighting the Star Beast with both falling into the wormhole and disappearing. An Engineer PILOT detaches from the Temple in a FAMILIAR VESSEL and follows Shaw, but is lost in the wormhole. Shaw emerges above the Earth of her present day; however, she’s deemed insane and responsible for the loss of her expedition and confined to a psychiatric hospital by the Company. It’s implied that there are at least some of those who believe Shaw’s tale, but have silenced her as part of a cover-up.

In the final scene, we see the vessel of the Engineer that was chasing Elizabeth Shaw emerge from the wormhole in the Zeta 2 Reticuli star system, still in the prehistoric past, and crash on a nearby planetoid, the Engineer Pilot helplessly lost and the EGGS in the ship’s cargo hold stirring as something alive moves from within…

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i've read elsewhere that this is getting released as PG-13 to begin with, with a R re-release later next year.


Post Posted: December 22nd 2011 5:27 pm
 
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This looks legitimately terrific. It's a great teaser and It retains enough of the Alien mythos without being repetitive - i.e. it's creative.

I'm very excited for this movie.


Post Posted: December 22nd 2011 11:06 pm
 
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Yes, yes, YES! The teaser has me far for excited than any other film coming out in the new year, including Batman. This looks to be Ridley at his finest and I love the weave-in Alien lore.


Post Posted: December 23rd 2011 2:29 am
 
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The last sci-fi movie I got excited about was 'Skyline'. So this thing doesn't have to be great to impress me.


Still, the imagery and set-up for this puts it right up my alley. Cant wait! Thanks for posting!


Post Posted: December 23rd 2011 8:02 am
 
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This looks incredibly kick ass. Definitely the 2012 movie I am most anticipating.


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Some interesting speculation about the trailer at this link ...


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Now I feel like we know all the major secrets of the film and there's no reason to go to see it.


Post Posted: December 25th 2011 6:24 pm
 
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Holy fuck, I never thought when I clicked on the 'movie spoilers' forum that I might learn any 'secrets'.

Oh, wait a minute ... Merry Christmas!

The internet has just gotten you a "Blinding Flash of the Obvious". Unfortunately it isn't returnable so you're stuck with it. Enjoy!

Personally, all the speculation about this, and all the 'maybe' and 'could be' bits, have me somewhat more geeked to see it than before. Just to see if anyone got it right.

Plus it looks visually interesting, and by interesting I mean Charlize Therons rumpus vs. space-ships. "R" rating please!!


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You're right - what I said sounded stupid. Consider it an expression of my surprise.

I just wasn't expecting that a film supposed to be this big new mysterious sci-fi (or that I imagined it to be) will get dissected so quickly.


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What geek-verse do you live in again? And what color are the unicorn laiden skies there?


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Ascovel, I can appreciate the surprise, and the spine it takes to admit when you say something corny. I am cornier than a farmers outhouse pit, so I know how you feel.


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space jockey statue / suits / shown in new pic


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Not really thrilled about the mysterious space jockey being turned into a bio-mechanical space suit.

Especially if rumors are true and it houses nothing more than tall human looking aliens.

Also, the space jockey was huge. The things in that shot look too short.


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PROMETHEUS Has Landed With A Quick New Trailer - Space Jockey chest-burster and potential Alien EGG shot at :55

[flash width=640 height=360]http://www.youtube.com/v/4tNdsFeIISc[/flash]

[flash width=640 height=360]http://www.youtube.com/v/HHcHYisZFLU[/flash]


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FULL TRAILER! :o

spoiler shots you might have missed in trailer:

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Fuck me beautiful.

The sci-fi dork in me never thought I'd see answers to questions I had when I saw Alien. I actually think Ridley's going to pull it off.

Talk about epic sci-fi.

I still don't think we're going to get full out 1979 Alien xenomorphs but I'm sure we'll get some humanoid hybrid. We'll also get a beta face hugger of some sort I bet. Who cares - the imagery enough tells me this thing is ALIEN all the way.


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I agree. I'm actually hoping the crew gets mutated into a plethora of bio-mechanical creatures.

We finally have a solid definition of the xenomorph. It's a macro-virus used for global genocide. The star beast is death incarnate by design. It allows the Engineers to wipe the slate clean for their bio-engineering projects.

This movie looks like it's going to very intense. When Shaw is praying there is a voice over of some guy screaming "Cut it off! Cutt it off!" Holy fuck!

Pisses me off that Scott had to compromise over the PG-13 rating. I realize we'll get to see the real movie on DVD/Blu, but I feel cheated that we won't be able to see it that way in theaters.


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I think the last time I felt this excited about a film was before The Phantom Menace came out. That trailer gave me chills. VERY interesting to see potential xenomorph origins.


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The trailer seems to have pretty much given away the plot.

Some archeologists follow clues that they think leads to the home planet of beneficial creators. It's actually a trap meant to keep species created by the Engineers from becoming too advanced. The Engineers try to send a ship filled to the brim with xeno eggs to earth, but the surviving crew of the Prometheus crash the ship into the engineer ship.

Then the last 8 minutes that Ridley has talked about could come into play. Probably show the Space Jockey/Engineer being helplessly attacked by a face hugger that was freed by the crash.


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A couple of related links ...

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Q&A: http://www.livestream.com/prometheus


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You can add international trailer to the mix. It might as well be called Trailer3:

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/D3TGr1lEXLU[/flash]

I'm going to see this movie.


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Guy Pearce plays Peter Weyland and you can view a very interesting possible movie clip/marketing video here. Pearce comes across as the Steve Jobs of the film, proclaiming because they can create AI lifeforms that 'we are the gods, now.'

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Damon Lindelof: Good luck.

Beaks: What's exciting about PROMETHEUS to me is that it feels, on one level, like you're using the bait of ALIEN to bring people into a smart science-fiction film they might otherwise avoid if they didn't suspect it was connected to a popular franchise.

Sir Ridley Scott: That's a good way of putting it.

Lindelof: It's feels a little more manipulative than we would put it probably, but it's not the most unfair characterization.

Scott: The very loose target was that nineteen months ago. Then what happened was you get an idea, which is the starting spec, and the evolution occurs. It just moved further and further away from that original thought that you specified. It has nothing to do with that now. It begs much larger, more interesting questions.

Lindelof: I think that the creative process was such that I was coming at it from the sheep perspective, which is "If Ridley Scott is going to do a science-fiction movie, do I want to see any of that stuff?" Yeah, I want to see some of it, but I don't want it to be about that. From Ridley's point of view, he said, "I did that in 1979, and I'm not looking to outdo myself or repeat myself. I want to do something new." Yet there is a certain cool familiarity. There's something about saying, "I've recorded a new album, but in the encore I might play a couple of the songs from earlier albums." That's what the fan experience wants to be, and we tried to craft the movie accordingly.

Beaks: We've seen the Space Jockey. You talk about the evolution, but were there certain elements from ALIEN that you always wanted to incorporate?

Scott: No plan. The starting block had a kind of general, generic... well, actually, one specific question: "Who are they and why?" Then "Who are they and why?' started to get answered, and that's where you get the complete branch-out into, honestly, another universe.

Beaks: With a Space Jockey.

Lindelof: Well, you've seen shots now in some of the materials that are going out there, and I think that hopefully the question changes from what it's been - which is "What is this movie's relationship to ALIEN?" - into "How much of the movie is going to be focused on the guy in that chair? Who is the guy in that chair? Is it a guy in that chair?" All of those questions sort of power us up until the movie, which will speak for itself hopefully.

Beaks: Genre-wise, judging from what we've seen so far, the horror element seems to be the most pronounced. Obviously there's sci-fi and action as well. How did you view the mix of genres?

Scott: With as much good, inventive taste as possible; without treading on things that have been done before, and trying to be as original as possible, where the events occur organically from the backbone of the story so you experience everything. You mention horror. Yeah, it's kind of horror, but frankly the whole package is way more interesting than that. It's a combination of everything. Is there action? Of course there is. Is there horror? Of course there is. But I think the overall scheme of things is always on this platform of these big questions, which always make it more interesting. It's very provoking.

Lindelof: I think there is a good version of saying "It's very hard to describe what this movie is" in terms of tying it up in a neat bow. And then there's a bad version of that, where the movie is just all over the place. If you take a movie like INCEPTION, which sort of defies explanation but obviously connected very well with audiences... in terms of saying, "Is that an action movie?" Yeah, people are running around and shooting each other with guns. But you can't really describe it, and one of the reasons is, love it or hate it, it's trying to do something new. That's what I thought was so exciting about the movie that Ridley wanted to make. "Let's not rely on trying to put this in the horror movie corner." He pitched me this sequence that just him talking about it scared the shit out of me. (Laughs) Now that I've seen it on screen, I think probably the most iconic scene in the movie is going to be a horror scene. It's psychologically scary and viscerally scary. That being said, that's just three minutes of screen time in a two-hour film. Hopefully, it has all of the above.

Beaks: In trying to do something different, how much latitude did you have with the studio?

Scott: Total. They don't interfere. You come to them finally with a complete thing saying this is what it is, and they have comments and points and "Didn't get this" or "Got that." Fundamentally, it's just entirely supportive. My conversation with them was, honestly, pretty quick. Two-and-a-half years ago, I said "There's this idea I want to do, which is science fiction." And here we are two-and-a-half years later sitting here talking with this big thing coming out. That's very fast in this business, isn't it?

Lindelof: Yeah. Amazing.

Scott: I think they're very happy. So the inception... bad word? Good word?

Lindelof: Yes.

Scott: The inception was a relatively short space of time.

Lindelof: There's been a massive amount of trust, I think. The Fox executive we've been working with most - other than Tom Rothman, who's been amazing - is this guy Steve Asbell, who is a massive Ridley Scott fan and a massive science-fiction fan. So he's always looking at the movie through the prism of "I get to this as a job!?!?" as opposed to "I'm giving you notes to shape the movie in the way that I want to" - which can be the downside of the studio experience, but it hasn't been here.

Beaks: I have to ask about the rating. Has that been resolved yet? R or PG-13?

Scott: It will be what it is. At the end of the day, you've got to go for the best movie - and that comes from Tom Rothman basically.

Lindelof: You directed the movie that you wanted to direct though.

Scott: Yeah, yeah. Of course, you go for as stringent as possible. But at the end of the day, it's a pretty good relationship with me and Tom.


Beaks: Shooting in 3D, did that change how you thought compositionally?

Scott: Shooting in 3D? Easy. Very straightforward. I come from the visual side anyway, and I was punished for that for many years when I was trying to do television and film. "Yeah, but he doesn't talk to actors." And I said, "Well, I don't need to talk to actors when I can fucking well make a great picture. After all, Hitchcock said it's all about pictures, isn't it, dude?" Then I gradually learned how to speak to actors, and pulled myself together. I think I've operated on 3,000 commercials and half of my movies I've been the camera operator, so I can tell you what lens to put on eleven cameras in this room. And then working with [director of photography] Dariusz Wolski, who is one of the best, I'd say, of three or four around... it was the first time for me, and he'd just experienced 3D for the first time himself on [PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: ON STRANGER TIDES]. It was easy. That said, his team below will read this and go, "Motherfucker!"

Lindelof: (Laughs) "We made it easy for him!"

Scott: I was standing on the platform going "No! Next! This! That! This! That! Boom! Boom!", and down below they're on cables and wires, pulling levers and cogs and shit. So I'm sure there were [problems] I wasn't aware of.

Lindelof: Again, from the sheep perspective, you take a guy like Ridley, who's a brilliant visual storyteller, but he's been drawing with the same six crayons all this time. And then you suddenly say, "Hey, did you know that there's actually sixty-four crayons?" It was amazing to watch the facility with which you used those new tools. I love that you shot it in 3D, and it's not a conversion.

Scott: You could shoot this scene as a conversation piece in 3D, and there is no question it would add to the universe of the scene. There's no question about it. What you don't realize is that you see in 3D. You've got two cameras. (Points to my eyes.). You've got parallax. That's how you see in 3D. But your brain gets so used to seeing in 3D that you think you see in 2D. You don't. All that 3D does now is remind you that this is what you already see like. That's all it is.[/align]
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ABOVE: Ridley Scott AICN Interview:


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CoGro wrote:
I'm going to see this movie.


Indeed.

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Screen grab from the 2nd trailer. Looks like maybe the "Space Jockey's" ribcage closes in, locking him/her/it into the chair, like a big seat belt -


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there's a really fantastic 7 part Alien documentary on youtube here. Full cast, writer, and director interviews through the entire film. lasts about an hour but they go over the entire movie with Giger interviews and everything. I believe it came from the old laser disc edition of Alien:

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As to the "space jockey" image. I believe you are correct. The "alien" is the big bald guy we see in the other trailer. The elephant looking head looks to be a mask with the "nose" being a air hose of some type. For the "face hugger" being in this movie - take a look at this gif from the trailer:

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This thing is held by that clawed machine and is either being lowered onto her or taken from her! You can also catch a quick glimpse of what looks like an umbilical cord connecting the two.

here's a screen grab of another scene where you can make out a stapled incision on her belly as if she's had a c-section surgery!

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Sir Ridley is back and class is back in session people! This thing is about to bend you over!



UPDATE!

There are differences in scenes between the US trailer and the international trailer! BLOOD is BLUE in the US version, RED in the other. Seems they're preparing for a PG13 for our virgin, brittle eyes by pulling a Mortal Kombat on us!

Or, the other, preferred possibility is this was done just to get the "MPAA approved for all audiences" for the trailer so it could be seen by as many people as possible. Also, the deformed guy that jumps on the other crewman is on fire in one version, not in the other. :monocle:

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I was never big into the "Alien" flicks but I have to admit that these trailers really have me excited. I'm actually a little worried that the film might answer too many questions and ruin some of the mystique surrounding the series but damn if those trailers just hit a nerve with me.


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 1:14 am
 
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Nice comparison of the Space Jockey from avpgalaxy.net forums:

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If they are supposed to be the same then they've done a terrible job. I guess Ridley isn't lying when he says there's no direct connection between this movie and Alien.


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 8:38 am
 
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Glued to ones seat for centuries and molded into mummified xenomorphic goo does change ones appearance...


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 2:29 pm
 
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Like doubling in size?


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 5:17 pm
 
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Perhaps.

[spoil]
[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/FJUaH9KzH1s&fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]

[align=left]See how the alien poop keeps building up on what it adheres to, creating new surfaces, eggs and hosts? [/align]
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It could evolve, morph or expand into this:

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[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/eDRLtgr2T9E&fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]

"Looks like it's been dead a long time... fossilized... looks like it's growing out of the chair..."
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And we don't really know yet what the context of that Space Jockey trailer shot is in the film, or how it connects to what we saw in ALIEN.


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 8:43 pm
 
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They said "growing out of the chair" because you couldn't tell where the chair ended and the actual creature began.

How do you explain the new Jockey having arms too short to reach the joysticks that the original was gripping? Where are those joysticks on the new chair? How is the monitor properly aligned to dead the "growing" Jockey's face. What happened to the sarcophagi that surround the chair in Prometheus?


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 9:32 pm
 
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As a lifelong fan of design, art, movies (especially sci-fi), and visually inspiring shit, its my professional opinion that saying the Alien image and the Prometheus image share "no direct connection" is a joke, or something senior verboten may want to reconsider before it gets ugly up in hurr.

For starters, other than some slight repositioning of whatever 'equipment' is attached to the 'chair' portion (much of it identical, just slightly repositioned), the newer image is one which incorporates an actor in the middle of all that stuff, whereas the Alien one appears static, sans actor.

Are they identical? Certainly not.

Are they so similar that they must be regarded as slightly different executions of an identical concept? Definately.

Does that have ANY bearing on the truth of the relationship between these two movies? Sadly, not a stitch. To say otherwise is grasping. Or sarcasm. I dunno', my bullshit meter is on the fritz so maybe Im just being an ass, that happens. From time to time.


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 9:47 pm
 
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You're right, Verboten, Ridley Scott is out of his goddamn mind! They need to shitcan this movie before the truth gets out! Who in the hell is doing the effects on this thing?

This is enough to make Michael Bay say "dammit son, what happened?"

Next time, Ridley, when you want to make a future-lay-z-boy with an elephant playing Warcraft, you better DAMN well get the joysticks right!

WHERE ARE THEY, RIDLEY SCOTT ?? HUH? Where are the joysticks? :whateva:


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 10:40 pm
 
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All I'm saying is that it's probably not supposed to be the same Jockey and ship that we saw in Alien. And yeah, if it's supposed to be the same then I would expect better from Ridley. I'd really hate for this to turn into the Star Wars prequels with details constantly ignored and retconned.

Troy, when I said "direct connection" I was talking about the narrative of the two movies. Yes, it takes place in the same universe, but Ridley and co. have been saying for a while that there's no direct connection between the movies.

It could be bs on his part, but people expecting to see xenos or how the derelict crashed on LV-246 might be disappointed.


Post Posted: March 22nd 2012 10:47 pm
 
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Consider this: when the trailer came out we all said 'Shit! It's a Space Jockey!
Not, "Shit! It almost looks like a small Space Jockey!"

Discrepancies in art direction. It happens. But then again there could be an explanation for that, too. Notice the original has the Alienized Giger look. Could be a transformation at some point, like an aborted Alien host?


Post Posted: March 23rd 2012 4:10 am
 
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I'm not attempting to "explain" anything. This isn't Star Trek, and I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm trying to keep an open mind and wonder exactly what will happen, who's who and what's what, in this movie. But I think we can safely assume that this split second shot in the trailer is not the exact moment when this thing is frozen in time and never seen again until John Hurt finds it.


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Another TV spot ...

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/Jmn9-hTmrm0&fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]


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Verboten wrote:
Troy, when I said "direct connection" I was talking about the narrative of the two movies.


Huh. Can't argue you there. I doubt there wil ever be conclusive 'proof' either way on that until it shows. And even then, who knows? Maybe it's meant to be ambiguous throughout. Wouldn't that be crazy? They cherry-pick one earlier-used design to get a 'buzz' going about the film before it releases, and then WHAMO.

Skyline II.

God I sure hope they have more sense than that. I think I enjoyed the trailer for Prometheus more than I did all of Skyline, actually.


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Large size screenshots.

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There are multiple temples.

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Post Posted: March 24th 2012 4:45 am
 
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By they way, I find it curious that this forum has no problem with bitching about superhero costume accuracy and such (see Spider-Man thread), yet when I point out a couple of glaring inaccuracies with the SJ I'm practically branded a lunatic.


Post Posted: March 24th 2012 9:32 am
 
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jeeze you're retarded! those superhero films are about characters with over 60 years of continuity and canon behind them. The characters have been established firmly in an assortment of media, from comics, cartoons, toys, films, live action shows to video games.

The only thing we have to compare Prometheus to is a 1979 movie called Alien, and even then Ridley has made it a point to say these films only share small bits of the same universe together. We really have no idea what the movie is about yet.

Sure, we have conjecture and rumor, but no one's seen the damn film yet! You're bitching over a scene in a trailer that was shown for literally 0.3 of a second in an epileptical fit of flashes and criticizing it for not matching up to a 30 year old film! How do you know the context of the scene we were shown? How do you know it's the same space jockey? You're complaining that his hands aren't gripping a joystick?? Maybe he's not ready to 'grip the joystick' yet! Maybe he's doing something else at the moment.

Hey, if once the movie comes out and we learn this dude is really some short order space fry cook that just wants to play some pew-pew videogames on his big screen gun/seat, then fine, you can bitch all you want. But dragging this film through the street like an old southern lynching over a flash in a trailer IS making you out to be a lunatic.

Now take your film shitting to the Reservation if you want to continue and stop shitting up this thread with your bitchy drama.


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Verboten wrote:
I find it curious that this forum has no problem with bitching about etc etc and so on.


To be fair, I think I only jumped on the fact that you said there was "no direct connection". Other than that, I could give a hoot, don't pollute.

And to be even more fair, I can handle inaccuracies in a superhero on-film as long as those changes dont detract from the awesomeness of the already established character. Wolverine crying, for instance. Or the trendy queer-eye stand-in they made Dr. Doom out to be. Or the way Tobey McGuire always looked a tad too "stupid" to play Peter Parker.

In the midst of a great film experience, some inaccuracy is okay. I have no issue with spacejockey-gate.

I dont care if they are or aren't related. Looks like an exciting film.


Post Posted: March 24th 2012 1:35 pm
 
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new gif from the international trailer that more closely shows whatever that dude is transforming into. very elongated arms and legs with clawed hands, a domed head and very weird. possibly a proto-xenomorph!

[spoil]Image[/spoil]


Post Posted: March 24th 2012 6:20 pm
 
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Hopefully, the film itself provides as many discussion points as the trailers.

The week the trailer was released, I saw references at a few mainstream news sites and on Yahoo. I’m not sure if these were paid spots or organically generated through web buzz. Either way, I was surprised by the film's pervasiveness.

Since Inception has already proven that complex thoughtful sci-fi can deliver at the box office, I have no reason to assume that this movie won’t be huge this summer.


Post Posted: March 24th 2012 9:10 pm
 
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I think they just decided the original look for the Space Jockey worked great as a weird art piece but needed to change the design a bit to suit the new film. It's still similar enough for viewers to make the connection and that's all that matters.

Judging by the comments and reactions I've read thus far to the trailers, I think Scott is smart to clip enthusiasm for this film as a true "Alien" prequel. My feeling is that most of the "Alien" stuff in the film will be more hints and conjecture.


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I think they just decided the original look for the Space Jockey worked great as a weird art piece but needed to change the design a bit to suit the new film. It's still similar enough for viewers to make the connection and that's all that matters.

Judging by the comments and reactions I've read thus far to the trailers, I think Scott is smart to clip enthusiasm for this film as a true "Alien" prequel. My feeling is that most of the "Alien" stuff in the film will be more hints and conjecture.


This sums up my thoughts exactly on both fronts.

Is it an Alien prequel? Obviously, but Scott doesn't want people to suffer from SW-prequel syndrome, expecting everything to be EXACTLY like the original designs. If we want to get really technical, we can make the same prequel critique about how the technology in Prometheus looks about 1000 years more advanced than what we saw in Alien. It's a never-ending, no-win proposition.


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