Cryostar wrote:
5 others will take his place just need to whack them all.
One of the best things about this event is that it frees the intelligent community up a bit. They can now devote more time taking out splinter groups like the very dangerous one presently in Yemen. The intelligence gathered from the compound should help a lot.
TroyObliX wrote:
It's a bad move, cheering for death. Death doesn't need our support. Those people acting like it's the 4th of July have seriously fucked up priorities. I'm not sad for Osama either, but it's weak minded and weaker hearted to 'celebrate' the end of anyone's life. Is it a victory? Symbolic victory, no doubt. Actual qualitative progress?
Funniest thing I heard so far, some middle eastern clerics were reportedly pissed that he wasn't given a proper Muslim burial.
Strictly crunching the numbers, it leaves a whole lot of grey area where I'd prefer the facts to be black and white.
In general, I think most people are cheering the fact that he is out of the way. If he was captured and not killed, the celebration would have gone the same manner as it did. For a lot of people, it’s an emotional relief that this is guy eliminated as a potential threat.
This is just muckraking reporting. (Remember “some” can mean “three or more people;” hardly a majority.) These “clerics” probably won’t support the US no matter what. Move along.
Black and white is a luxury sometimes and there is no 100% certainty in the real world. Someone would have to be insane to think they could fake this without repercussion. The President, Military, and Intelligence Community have not gone insane.
darthpsychotic wrote:
It is now known that controversial Seal Team Six pulled the trigger with information obtained in those US military prisons which so enraged the left.
Then there is Libya, Egypt, and Syria. The despots that run those countries should be replaced but by whom?
or "Prisoners Rights for Gitmo"
This claim hasn’t even been remotely proven as fact. Some people who are championing this idea with certainty are some of the same people who were championing the idea of WMD’s in Iraq with absolute certainty based on single sources and hearsay. (And besides, if the previous administration already had information leading to his whereabouts, why didn’t they act on it? Are they now admitting incompetency?)
Is it possible that some information obtained under torture contributed the large pool of intelligence used? It is possible that information obtained under torture delayed action, because said information can be unreliable and has to be vetted over time? Is it possible that the information used for the raid could have been obtained without torture? Yes, in all three cases.
Relax. Since these countries would never normalize under dictatorships, change is good. In the short term, there's going to be uncertainty. But in the long term, the world will be better off as these countries move towards democracy.
Detention and integration methods have always been and will always be debated.