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Matthew "Kick-Ass" Vaughn w/ Claudia Schiffer accessory

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James McAvoy • Xavier

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Nicholas Hoult • Beast

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Caleb Landry Jones • Banshee

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Miichael Fassbender • Magneto

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Jennifer Lawerence • Mystique

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Lucas Till • Havok

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[s]Alice Eve • Emma Frost[/s]

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Thanks for the thread :heavymetal: :)

Director of the previous X-Men trilogy Bryan Singer is one of the producers of First Class. Singer did want Taylor Lautner of the Twilight movies who turned down the part due to alleged scheduling conflicts. Lucas Till is confirmed as a cast member though as the character Havok is the rumored part.

It is also known tha Kevin Bacon is in talks for a part yet to be determined. Speculation is that its for the role of Mister Sinister.


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It is also rumored that Aaron Johnson is in the role of Cyclops.


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Kevin Bacon as Mr Sinister would be dope as fuck. Simply for the fact that I hate Kevin Bacon, and it's not really his fault. He's a decent actor, I just really don't like the characters he plays, or his mannerisms when playing them. Not that he doesn't do it well, as a lot of them were people we weren't supposed to like anyway. He always just feels creepy uncle to me, and that would really work here.



Apparently, Mr.Vaughn has decided to alter his script in response to potential similarities between visual imagery seen in some scenes, and those in the film Inception. The article doesn't give any hints as to what aspect of the Marvel X-Verse was similar, but my guess is with Emma Frost and Xavier and allegedly Mr Sinister involved in the plot, the ideas for surreal and physics-defying physical enviornments seems natural. This all kinda sounds a little reactionary to me, but again, I don't have a clue as to what they had planned.

The story from yahoonews is here.


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Apparently, Mr.Vaughn has decided to alter his script in response to potential similarities between visual imagery seen in some scenes, and those in the film Inception. The article doesn't give any hints as to what aspect of the Marvel X-Verse was similar.


Apparently it's the zero-gravity, rotating room, floating fight scene ...


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my other post of double dip news for the day. From AICN - Bryan Singer interview gives new COOL details:


• X-Men: First Class takes place in the 1960s.
Real world details are in place: JFK is the president.
Martin Luther King and Malcolm X are alive.

• The story begins with Xavier at Oxford in the ’60s, and Singer said the film will have an ‘international’ feel.
Shoots in England and the US will double in places for other global locations, including the Soviet Union.

• We see how Charles Xavier and Erik Lehnsherr met, and hear of the future they dreamed of for humans and mutantkind, specifically with respect to their ideas for the X-Men.

• Director Matthew Vaughn has been inspired by 60s-era James Bond tech, and the costumes will be far more ‘comic bookish’ than we’ve seen in the past.

• Cyclops and Jean Grey are not in the film.
• Professor X and Magneto are in their 20s when they meet.
• Xavier will not be in a wheelchair at first, but we will see how he is crippled. And Xavier has hair!

• The vision of the Hellfire Club will be the classic one, seemingly with the Victorian costumes and men’s club attitude first seen as John Byrne drew them in the ’80s.



Again, that’s working towards the Bond vibe mentioned earlier.


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thx for the spoilers weekend update b. Also from that AICN interview:


[s]Kevin "Rape Man" Bacon[/s]
Kevin "Hollow Man" Bacon as Sebastian Shaw

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January "Mad Men" Jones as Emma Frost
Jean or Scott are OUT - Havok and Hellfire Club are IN :funkywhat:


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I have to say it's ridiculous to have the original X-Men without Cyclops and Jean Grey. Someone needs to explain what the fuck is so hard to at least stick with the original ideas for a change.


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This isn't a reboot of the Singer movies nor are they going after the comic cannon. It's a Prequel of the two Singer movies. More of a Xavier and Magneto origin movie with some second tier X-Men thrown on the side.

Giant-size X-Men #1 this is not. Scott and Jean would be infants if even alive at all at the time.


This also opens in about 9 months and I believe they start shooting in a few weeks! :whateva:


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Principal photography starts on 8/31. At least we get the Hellfire Club, even if it comes at the cost of seeing ProfX with hair.


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I just wonder if they will acknowldege somehow that Havok and Cyclops are brothers. And what about Vulcan and thier Starjammer pops? The films have so muddled the story from the comics, I don't know why they even use the same names. I'm still going in to this one with an open mind, though. I'm not going to go all geek-nazi about the fact that there is an Angel and it isn't Warren Worthington III. But I'm tempted to. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I just have this fear that it's going to come across as Austin Powers vs Heroes, season 2. With Kevin Bacons rape face all over it. Hope not.

And January Jones is a good choice for Emma Frost. I just hope she's half naked through the whole thing like her character is in the books.


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Since we've heard no casting rumors for a black queen, wonder if they'll try for the phoenix story. Also wonder if Tessa will show up.


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January Jones is White Hot on X-Men [s]Origins[/s] First Class set

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:lol: this looks shiteous! except for the blonde with breasts that is.

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Left to right: Michael Fassbinder as Magneto, Rose Byrne as Moira MacTaggert, January Jones as Emma Frost, Jason Flemyng as Azazel, Nicholas Hoult as Beast, Lucas Till as Havoc, Zoe Kravitz as Angel Salvadore, Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique, and James MacAvoy as Charles Xavier.


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Tell me that's a shoop of some kind...


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What exactly do you guys expect from a young version of the X-Men?

I mean this is basically The Twilight X-Men series that might as well air on the CW.


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See, I was hoping that it wouldn't be THAT.


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Wow, just wow. Chuckle.


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I'm kinda hoping they just eschew the previous cinematic cannon and go ape shit with this thing.


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Trailer is up on YouTube (1080p MP4)

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/UrbHykKUfTM&fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]


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Looks like Watchmen.


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Looks like shit.


...nah just kidding. It's another X-Men movie, no more no less. Fan boy rantings over the third movie aside, they're all basically cut from the same cloth so I think we can expect this one to be another reasonably entertaining romp. If it turns out to be something more then all the better.


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Joe1138 wrote:
It's another X-Men movie

That about says it all. I don't know why I find your statement to be sorta sad, I guess because we've seen what Hollywood can do with the X-Men at this point.

Although I have two points of optimism:

1. Matthew Vaughn; loved Layer Cake so I hope this X movie is as visually exciting.

2. Aronofsky's Wolverine movie; again visually this guy is amazing. I'm hoping he does something with the next Wolverine flick that'll make comic books look tame.


btw does anyone think Wolverine will appear in this X-teen team thing?


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I wouldn't doubt it. I kind of expect Wolverine to show up in one of every 3 Marvel films the way he does in comics. I'd be ok with that. Kind of wondering if he will be in Captain America. I don't know jack shit about all the technicallities involved with the different studio relationships.

However I kind of doubt, long term, a company like Disney is going to let one of the biggest Marvel characters be cinematic-ally controlled by another company indefinitely. For all I know, they already 'own' him. Speaking of which, is this new X-Men a 'Marvel Studios'/Disney production or is it still whoever made the first three (lousy tbh) flicks?

Will there be a Nick Fury appearance in this? X-Men/Avengers crossover someday? Will Jackman's Wolverine join the Avengers in a sequel? What about the new Spider-Man? Chris Evans as the Beyonder. :o


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Nah, X-Men is still @ Fox. So no crossover with the Marvel films.

And Hugh Jackman/Wolverine can only be in the movie if he cries. That appears to be the obligation to having Wolverine in a movie. He has to cry at some point.


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TroyObliX wrote:
Chris Evans as the Beyonder. :o


Introduction of the Beyonder at some point would be great. Would love to see Secret Wars played out on screen. As far as Chris Evans for the part, eh, not so much.


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I'm just saying, cuz the Beyonder decided to basically clone Steve Rogers and give him black hair and stylish early 80's fashion, whilst creating his own human form. I thought. Maybe I should check the stuff I just blurt out on here sometime.

Yep. Thats what he settles on, and the one I remember anyways.


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I think it looks cool. It might work with the talent involved, especially Singer's input


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Phantom Menace-esque Teaser Posters: Magneto & Xavier

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International Trailer 2.0

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I was wrong about this one.

From early BTS pics/info to early marketing material, I thought this would be messy. From what I've seen and from what we're hearing, it might be the best marvel movie to date.


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Yeah, I was starting to get a bit 'w/evr' about this when the marketing began. It was looking like something an advertising-101 class had put together, and the whole thing felt really corny. Like poop.

But the last few trailers have made me change my mind, at least on the 'giving it a chance before I hate it' notion. The scenes where Magneto is pulling the sub out of the water, and redirecting the missles while looking very "Told you I was better than the humans" really turned me around. Can't wait to see it now.

Cluster-fuck potential dropping. Fingers still X'd for good measure, tho.


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Saw 1st Class yesterday and liked it a lot.

Kevin Bacon is excellent as Sebastian Shaw and I liked McAvoy as Xavier and Michael Fassbender as Magneto.

Some of the way it's timelines work for the purist X-fans will dissapoint but all in all this is a well made film in my opinion.


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[spoil]does Wolverine really say "go FUCK yourselves" in this? actually says FUCK? really?[/spoil]


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[spoil]does Wolverine really say "go FUCK yourselves" in this? actually says FUCK? really?[/spoil]

Yeah. Easily the best one-off in the whole movie.


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I don't agree with that shit. I'm no prude, but this thing is rated PG13. these are movies directed and marketed right to kids. he could have said Kiss my ass or go to hell or something and still be edgy and cool but nooooooo, he's gotta say go fuck yourselves.

I grew up with sneaking into R rated movies and watching HBO late at night in the living room like everyone else did. But I was watching ADULT content. R rated movies, MADE for adults. I didn't get F bombs dropped while watching Gremlins or Ghostbusters. I would be pissed off if I took my kids into this after spending serious cash on food for them to hear crap like that unexpectedly.


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I'll most likely be seeing the movie with my girlfriend next Friday. I'm curious though where does [spoil]Wolverine[/spoil] appear in the movie? Is it after the end credits or what?


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bearvomit wrote:
I don't agree with that shit. I'm no prude, but this thing is rated PG13. these are movies directed and marketed right to kids. he could have said Kiss my ass or go to hell or something and still be edgy and cool but nooooooo, he's gotta say go fuck yourselves.

I can see what you're saying. I saw it with some pals from work, but I could understand being upset if I'd taken kids to see it (not having kids, this didn't immediately come to mind). It did fit the character really well, but could probably have served the scene just as well with something less epithetical.

@Raveers:
[spoil]There's no end-credits scene - the Wolverine cameo is mid-movie. I won't tell you when, though, because it'll be more fun for you if you just let it sneak up.[/spoil]


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I liked it. The whole thing. The Cameos were good, all of them.


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The Dark Knight, in many people's eyes, is the best movie based on a comic book. No doubt, it's a thrilling crime drama that transcends the source material and makes Batman as digestible for non-fans as it does for die hards. It also contains arguably the best performance by an actor in the history of the genre.

That said, X-Men: First Class is the best comic book movie I've ever seen. I was in shock when the credits rolled. The one word I could think of was "incredible." Matthew Vaughan nailed it. All of it. The marketing team really fucked up on this one. They didn't know how to sell this flick at all and it's been documented how agitated Vaughan was with the folks at 20th Century Fox. I really hope bad marketing doesn't hurt the film's ticket sales because as far as I'm concerned First Class sets the standard for excellence this summer.


EDIT: This is what shitty marketing can do to a great product.

Weekend haul of $56M while the "find and replace" Hangover 2 broke records.

I really want to get a good dialogue going about First Class. First of all, where do they go from here? I felt like they really straddled the line between making this film a prequel and a reboot. There are obvious ties to the first two, but also minor inconsistencies that make First Class feel like it exists in a different continuity. Obviously you can't connect the dots completely (i.e. how was Singer to know Mystique and Xavier would have the backstory they did), but I'd like to know if they will move forward in an attempt to bridge the gap as seamlessly as possible (i.e. Xavier says in X-MEN that Magneto helped build Cerebro - and maybe he does build the mansion version).

Another part of me thinks that the only direction for this franchise is down. I find it incredibly hard to believe they're not going to fuck this up with sequels. It works on its own as a self-contained origin story and there's really nothing they can do story wise except rehash what we've already got in the first trilogy of X-men movies. This film, to me, was the long rumoured "X-men Origins: Magneto/Xavier." Charles is in his chair and Magneto has assembled the Brotherhood: now what? They're not going to bring back these actors just to mirror what Patrick Stewert and Ian McKellen did 10 years ago.

As for Wolverine's cameo - loved it. Classic Wolverine. I'm not going to tell parents how to raise their kids, but here's my perspective on "the word": a) it's not a children's movie. There's violence, a degree of sexuality and mature themes. If you're fine with your child being exposed to this, but disturbed at the use of the word "fuck" then you're a hypocrite.

This isn't a PG movie. When you take your kids to a PG-13 movie, you should be aware of the risks. If you have Ned Flanders-like concerns about the effect of media on children, then don't take your >13 year old kid to see these movies. b) the single use of the word "fuck" is not going to point your child on a path towards hell raising. If you think this movie will introduce children to the word "fuck" then you're naive. They've heard it before, probably from you, in much harsher contexts.

I'm sure this will derail the thread although I hope it doesn't. We have a truly great film to discuss. Where does Marvel (and Matthew Vaughan/Singer) go from here?


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Isn't this what Fox always does, though? They always find a way to screw things up.


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Umm, I'm one of those people who don't find TDK to be as great as everyone else. Joker made that film great where it was great. Ledger's demise had a huge impact on it's revenue, and that's actually ok, in relationship to the legitimacy of it's artistic success, considering how spectacularly he nailed it. The rest of the film, kind of w/evr for me. Bale's Batman is on par with Keaton's imo. Except the Bale 'bat-voice', whoever's idea that was, takes his performance down a notch for me.

But, I do have a certain disdain for the DC universe, in general, and the films based on them have never really got me too excited. Except the first two OG Chris Reeves Supermans. Green Lantern looks like it has a load of potential to turn my sail, but I don't think I'm a good judge, when TDK gets thrown in the mix.

And with that bias in mind, I thought Thor was the greatest comic book movie ever, so far. It sure was the pretiest. It has been the most satisfying, as someone who was already a fan of the character, comic-film crossover of all time that I've watched. No eye-rolling, no points I had to 'accept' even though I didn't want to. I actually almost thought of shedding a tear when Asgard, as I remembered it from the 70's-80's comics, burst forth in living color.[/align][/spoil]

Sorry. I feel better. Hidden due to not having anything to do with X1C.

Still, thanks for all the reviews/opinions on this one! Sounds like it's worthy of a trip to the theatre for me at some point soon. Then I can fawn/bitch about it where convenient.

Out of curiosity, are there many other cameos, other than Wolverine's? Spoil me, I don't mind, I'm already sold.


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For my money, the best comic book movies are the Tim Burton Batmans and Superman: The Movie.


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Well surprisingly enough saw this with family today. Over all a not too bad of a film, some parts could have been left out.

They could have also chosen a different line for a certain cameo.

I'll still be seeing it again on Friday with my girlfriend. Maybe a second view of the movie might change my mind on it.


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TroyObliX wrote:
Out of curiosity, are there many other cameos, other than Wolverine's? Spoil me, I don't mind, I'm already sold.

Rebecca Romijn makes an appearance in a very clever scene between Raven and Erik--

Raven is in her "human form" in Erik's bed, waiting for him when he walks in. Erik tells her to leave and go to bed because she's too young for him and maybe he'd entertain the idea of it "in a few years." With that, Raven "transforms" into what she'd look like "in a few years" (i.e. Rebecca Romijn).

Also, when Xavier first uses Cerebro, the first mutant he sees is a small black girl with silver hair (i.e. Storm). Might not actually BE Storm since I think that would place her in her late 40s, early 50s during X1-3, but it seemed like a nod to Storm to me.

One of the government agents is Agent Stryker - the father of William Stryker, who is also mentioned when Xavier reads the Agent's mind.


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have you EVER read FUCK in an X-Men comic? didn't think so. :ohsnap:


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have you EVER read FUCK in an X-Men comic? didn't think so. :ohsnap:


The answer is actually yes. Not only do you see a lot of symbol swearing across comics (including X-men, the Avengers, Spider-man, etc), there are loosely marked unrated versions that show all in print. If you scour the net enough, you'll find them. They weren't that rare. Even still, I'm asking you seriously, does "shut your %$&ing mouth!" really do the trick to dissuade children from learning and using swear words? During the 80s almost every comic had symbol swearing.

Not only have I seen profanity in an X-men comic but I've also seen R-rated violence. As a child reading these comics, the profanity didn't nearly rattle me as much as the images of Jean Grey tearing Rogue in half Kung Lao style did.

(if anyone remembers this sequence, please chime in. I sold most of my old comics and would love to confront these panels, which gave me nightmares for weeks. It was from the late 80s/early 90s where Jean reacts to Cyclops being killed)

Marvel isn't as PG a brand as the television cartoons have led people to believe.

EDIT: I'd really like an explanation from Singer regarding how he approached the "canon" established in the earlier films. XM:FC seems to completely ignore X3 and Wolverine and I want to know if this was intentional.


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That’s about the time I collected, but I don’t remember the panel. I do remember Christopher Carlmont’s and Marc Silversti’s run on Unncancy X-Men being dark and racy.


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Now playing MF Film forum is the TeleSync (cam video + direct audio). If you haven't seen the film yet give the :filez: a viewing and you will like what you see.


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