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Post Posted: September 10th 2008 11:07 pm
 
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ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:
Err, Threepio was funny in the old movies... Jar Jar and all the other forced gags in the PT just were not.

You're right about the forced gags vs. the genuinely funny.
ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:
As for the duel in Episode III, I didn't have a problem with the background Mustafarians and droids passing by. They have a brief presence in maybe two or three shots. This clearly wasn't a bid deal.

As far as the droid/Mustafar workers complaint, yeah, it's not the end of the world to be sure, but it was totally unnecessary. And you know brainstorming probably went into it. :what:
ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:
What did irk me was the lack of dialogue and Anakin's horrible line about the Jedi being evil. It also gets a bit too over the top from Spielberg's influence when the big arm collapses. Suddenly everything looks fake and Anakin turns superhuman to a degree that's a bit disproportionate to the rest of the movies. But I digress.

Truth be told, Anakin's whole turn is horrible. I can't agree about superhuman Anakin though. He seemed very ordinary to me. It didn't seem hard for Obi-Wan to take him out. I can't see what Palpatine saw in him. And I don't know what everyone was afraid of. Lucas completely neutered the Anakin Skywalker character. At any point in the PT he’s either whining, whipped, weak, dumb, or all of the above.


Post Posted: September 11th 2008 2:58 am
 
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Darth Hade wrote:
Then again, this is the guy who changed Han shooting first for no reason...


Did you know there were also plans to remove Harrison Ford's improvised gag of shooting the Egyptian swordsman in some future release of Raiders? Now, that's just fucked up!

Darth Hade wrote:
He seemed very ordinary to me. It didn't seem hard for Obi-Wan to take him out. I can't see what Palpatine saw in him. And I don't know what everyone was afraid of.


The understatement of the century. Great evil is always a step ahead. No one ever realizes it could happen until it happens, and when it does happen, it's always too late and with great denial. Historically, that's how a whole lot has gone down. Anakin's turn reflects this problem.

Darth Hade wrote:
The Jedi Order completely neutered the Anakin Skywalker character. At any point in the PT he’s either whining, whipped, weak, dumb, or all of the above.


Fixed.

That's precisely the point. If you're looking for a hero with more independent and maverick tutelage, more comfortable in their role as a Force-wielder, displaying a more stoic character, with great conviction and loyalty - Vader is your man. Or Luke, if you like a little learnin' from past mistakes and a willingness to redeem those who've been maligned by deception and lies. Anyway, Anakin's such a tool, yeah?

However, regardless of their ultimate fate, any hero needs to be portrayed as a hero, and there are plenty of moments strewn throughout the PT which exemplify heroism in Anakin, which I'm sure you've overlooked in your sweeping attack on the filmmaker - er, I mean - story content. And if you missed any of those, just watch this new Clone Wars series - it's turning out to be quite a fitting addendum to the PT.


Post Posted: September 11th 2008 3:10 am
 
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The Jedi Order made Anakin physically weak?
The Jedi Order made Anakin pussy whipped?
The Jedi Order made Anakin a moron?

I think you need to go back and watch the PT again. As for the Clone Wars movie, well, it sucked. I can't believe I actually paid to see it. And not only did it portray Anakin as a moron yet again, it also diminishes what were supposedly the greatest star pilot skills in the galaxy.

"Did you get shot down again?" - Obi-Wan

"Yes." - Stupid and pointless padawan character of no purpose and no meaning


Post Posted: September 11th 2008 3:51 am
 
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Darth Hade wrote:
The Jedi Order made Anakin physically weak?


I'd say he's pretty strong. It's just that the Order is preventing him from reaching his full potential (Whatever that means. I'm not a Force-wielder.). He's always whining about being "held back" and kept from maturing his skills ("I'm ready for the trials.").

Darth Hade wrote:
The Jedi Order made Anakin pussy whipped?


Do you have any idea what sexual repression will do to a man or woman?

Darth Hade wrote:
The Jedi Order made Anakin a moron?


Not on the battlefield! But certainly Anakin's view of the Force wasn't complete without a certain Sith to tell him all about the other side. Boy, did that change things!

Darth Hade wrote:
Stupid and pointless padawan character of no purpose and no meaning


The series isn't over yet. Who knows what could happen? Well, to her, anyway.


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