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Post Posted: November 25th 2007 10:07 pm
 
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not sure I like the idea of makeup only though. That's a drastic change from ANY version of the Joker. That means we'll see him without his makeup as well...


Post Posted: November 25th 2007 11:45 pm
 
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Is there actually makeup that adheres to your skin that well?


Post Posted: November 26th 2007 8:22 am
 
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oh shit, here it comes!! http://www.empireonline.com/heiscoming/


Post Posted: November 26th 2007 10:48 pm
 
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Would anyone mind recoloring the leaked Joker images so they match the latest official release?


Post Posted: November 27th 2007 10:19 am
 
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Hahaha, thats hilarious! Someone bet them to the punch. It's not really much of a spoiler since we've seen a tonne of Ledger/Joker images anyways but still, he looks creepy and awesome. This movie cannot fail.


Post Posted: November 27th 2007 9:09 pm
 
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Image + Image = Image :heavymetal:


Post Posted: November 27th 2007 10:33 pm
 
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Yeah, Ledger is definitely channeling Alex for his Joker.


Post Posted: November 28th 2007 9:06 pm
 
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Post Posted: November 29th 2007 12:37 am
 
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Hahaha, thats hilarious! Someone bet them to the punch.

It's not really much of a spoiler since we've seen a tonne of Ledger/Joker images anyways...but still, he looks creepy...and awesome...

This movie cannot fail....


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Post Posted: November 29th 2007 10:52 am
 
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The Joker looks just like Beetlejuice. :lol:


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Post Posted: November 30th 2007 10:57 am
 
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New BTS clip from the Today Show:


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Post Posted: November 30th 2007 5:28 pm
 
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I haven't seen this posted yet. Just found it today. Is it fake or something the marketing genius' keep feeding us. I'm not smart enough to decifer what the Joker has circled. Maybe its just random crap. Either way its damn funny! Batman saves money on car insurance, thats gold!


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Post Posted: November 30th 2007 5:38 pm
 
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welcome to 2 weeks ago! Yes, the words the Joker circled in red were a clue. You were suppose to count the letters in the phrases. Say there were 15 letters in one circled phrase, that would correspond to the 15th letter in the alphabet. They spelled out a website. It took you to the profile quize I believe.

Anyways, go here to stay up to date: http://batman.wikibruce.com/Home
Here is the latest game: http://www.whysoserious.com/theperfectgetaway/


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Thanks, I was gone 2 weeks ago, see when I said, "What can I miss in 2 weeks?" I guess that was it.


Post Posted: November 30th 2007 9:01 pm
 
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new quiz solved ahead of time! the routes when plotted spelled out letters. They saw "out" and guessed "out of time" and were lead to this:

http://www.whysoserious.com/outoftime/

click on the note to be lead to another webpage with a pic of Fred Alder's toe tag! Fred was the guy Batman caught in the car jacking as told by the paper. Joker whacks him apparently in the hospital. It says he died of asphixiation in the ICU. The purpose of all of this is to be a part of the Joker's bank robbery at the beginning of TDK. We're expecting at least a poster at the end. We'll see.

The note said a final quiz would be comming in a few days...


Post Posted: December 2nd 2007 10:17 am
 
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some promo pics have been released: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34945

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Those look pretty good.


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Here is the text from the Empire article:

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In a vacant office block on the west side of LaSalle street in downtown Chicago - temporary production base of a movie that our press pass insists is called Rorys first kiss, but everyone knows is really The Dark Knight - EMPIRE is shown into a high-ceilinged, wood-panelled room, the kind of place you'd imagine very important decisions were once taken by powerful, polyester-clad men back in the 1970's. We've ostensibly been invited here to observe director Christopher Nolan at work in the street outside and the building opposite via a live feed to a flatscreen TV, but the producers have arranged something else, too.

In a small, windowless side-room stand a pair of costumes. In one corner, hanging from a sturdy, metal frame, is the new-look batsuit, all matte-black mesh and unyielding hard-plastic carapace, the first to allow the moody crime-fighter to actually turn his head. Impressive. But in the corner to its left, draped simply over a headless mannequin, is something far more exciting. Its a tatty, threadbare get-up, a dark-green waistcoat over a grey shirt, with a dark green tie at the collar. Purple trousers hang below and a long, angular purple coat sits on top. The ensemble's completed by a pair of purple gloves and a silver fob chain dangling from the belt. Its part Vivienne Westwood, part Alexander McQueen, part thrift-shop grunge. And its entirely The Joker.

Well, of course, not literally entirely. Later, Heath Ledger, the man who fills the suit onscreen, joins EMPIRE - sadly sans his ravaged,psycho-clown make-up. Ledgers ill-at-ease body language and propensity to mumble suggest a nervousness you might expect from some tackling such an iconic role. But everybody else EMPIRE'S talked with that day, from Nolan himself to Michael Caine, who returns as Bruce Waynes sardonic butler Alfred, descibes Ledger as "Fearless".

Still, Ledgers more than happy to discuss how he became The Joker - and we're not just talking about an hour in make-up. "Its a combination of reading all the comic books i could that were relevant to the script and then just closing my eyes and meditating on it. I sat around in a hotel room in London for about a month, locked myself away, formed a little diary and experimented with voices - it was important to try to find a somewhat iconic voice and laugh. I ended up landing more in the realm of a psychopath - someone with very little to no conscience towards his acts. Hes just an absolute sociopath, a cold-blooded, mass-murdering clown, and Chris has given me free reign, which is fun, because there are no real boundaries to what The Joker would say or do. Nothing Intimidates him, and everything is a big joke"

"I think we have that in all of us" Ledger muses, before attempting to describe the physicality of inhabiting his and Nolans vision of The Joker : "Its kind of like eating raw meat. What that does to your mouth and your eyes, simple little visual things like that. I dont know - i guess the rest is just trusting your research."

There is a very specific reason, though, why Ledger - who's never even played a villain before - is considered a brave man to tackle this role. And , as with many things, nobody expresses that reason better than Michael Caine.

"If i put myself in the producers shoes, i think : 'Wait a minute, we are making a movie about The Joker'" the 74 year old actor ruminates. "Now, we have had Jack Nicholson, who is one of the Jokers and one of the greatest characters in this kind of movie. I have worked with Jack and i know him really well. You do not really want to follow Jack into anything. Unless its a nightclub!"

For his part, Nolan had no reservations about "following" Jack (Somewhere other than a nightclub). "None at all, to be honest" he says. "And that was very important to us in deciding to make this film. I certainley knew that story-wise the character was going to be very different, and it was always going to require a fearless performance from someone not afraid to put forward his own interpretation".

"Heath Ledger stunned me" continues Caine. "Jack played The Joker as sort of a benign nasty clown - like a wicked uncle. Heath plays him like an absolutely maniacal murderous psychopath. You have never seen anything like it in your life. He is very, very scary. I turn up very month or so and do a couple of bits, then go back to London. I had to do this bit where Batman and I watch a video which The Joker sends to threaten us. So i'd never seen him, and then he came up on the television in the first rehearsal and i completely forgot my lines. I flipped, because it was so stunning, it was quite amazing. Wait until you see it, its incredible".

"Oh, i definately feared it" Ledger tells EMPIRE quietly, with a half-apologetic smile. "Although anything that makes me afraid i guess excites me at the same time. I dont know if I was fearless, but i certainly had to put on a brave face and believe that i had something up up my sleeve. Something different....."

Christopher Nolan made it quite clear that after he'd completed Batman Begins that he had no intention of making a sequel. But then, while shooting his next movie, The Prestige, something surprising happened : Nolan found himself replaying Batman Begins' final dialogue exchange in his head, the moment when good copper Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman) talks of a criminal with " a taste for the theatrics" and hands Batman (Christian Bale) a playing card adorned with the smile-snarl face of a Joker. And Nolan found himself wanting to make a sequel, if only to see The Joker done his way.

"The way Batman Begins ended was intended not so much as sequel bait" Nolan insists, "but to create a level of excitment at the end of the movie. Ultimately, the sequel happened because we got caught up in that process of imagining how you would see The Joker through the prism of what we did in the first film". And how is The Joker seen through that prism?

"Indescribable, really. Not to sound evasive - it actually is quite difficult to explain, but all i can really say is Heaths not doing any paticular thing, He's just inhabiting the character in very much the way i'd hoped from a psychological perspective. He really created something that i think is going to be quite terrifying."

Throughout EMPIRES time noodling about on The Dark Knights set nobody seems confident enough to say precisely how The Joker will be portrayed in this film. A "Prologue" sequence revealing something of this mysterious villains origin (various versions of which have been presented over the years in the comic-books) will be screened ahead of I am legend on its US release later this month, and is likely to appear in the UK, too, come the latter films January release. Even so, Ledger himself quips that "I feel like i'll be assassinated if i tell you something wrong" so when asked how much we'll see in the film of the man who becomes The Joker, he merely says that " Most of the villains in the Chris Nolan style of Batman films are normal people......or once were normal people".

Fans of the comic book will realise that what we'll be seeing here is a version more of the original Joker - the pure, cold-hearted sociopath version - and the recent portrayals of him as a deeply insane man. Not the crown price of crime, the rather more harmless prankster-bank-robber of the 60's, the cesar romero version if you like, which the Jack-joker ran with for Burtons Batman.

Indeed, the ratty costume which EMPIRE was introduced to right at the beginning of our day provides some key clues to the contrast between Ledgers Joker and Nicholsons. "Hes certainley not a dapper, dandy gentleman in this film" says costume designer Lindy Hemming. "Whatever is wrong with him, it means he doesnt care about himself at all, really. We were trying to make him sort of a...i dont want to say vagrant, but his look in this film has a much punkier feel. Anarchic feel. Scruffier, grungier, and therefore when you see him move, hes slightly twitchier or edgy."

He doesnt even have 'clown' make-up on, as such. "Hes just somebody who exaggerates tha scar on his mouth" adds hemming. A quick word with Conor O'Sullivan, lead make-up prosthetic artist, gives us some clue as to how The Joker recieves this scar. "I cant say too much because its a major plot point for the movie, but lets just say that The Joker himself is responsible for at least some of the scarring".

"What the director has done" says Caine, "which is so clever, is that the Joker has left the make-up and just let it rot off. It is never renewed. He's got a big, wide mouth and it gradually almost looks like a bad skin disease".

An Antagonist is nothing without his protagonist, of course, and we should not forget that we wouldnt even have The Joker if it were'nt for Batman. Still, with Nicholson stealing Burtons movie away from the frowning Michael Keaton, you could forgive Christian Bale for worring that Ledger would do the same to him.

"Im not worried at all" says Bale. "That was exactly the problem i had with all of the other movies - after i had read Frank Millers Batman : year one and the various other graphic novels, i looked at those films and said "Well, how come its always been that Batmans the most boring character?, ive never found him to be intriguing at all. Whereas these graphic novels depicted him as really being by far the most fascinating character. So i feel like we gained that back with Batman Begins. Now we've made him a character of substance, i have no problem with him competing with someone else. And thats going to make better entertainment and a better movie, which is great." Bale grins "I dont mind if everybody tries to chew up the scenery!"


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Post Posted: December 3rd 2007 2:17 am
 
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The Joker pics are good. I kind of like the idea of Joker mutilating his own face, but the skin not being permawhite bothers me.

The batsuit is too busy. We're getting into Batman and Robin territory with it. I loved the idea that Bale would be able to turn his head now, but why all the new cosmetic changes?

Just fix the cowl and leave well enough alone.


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Imax intro description: http://www.wizarduniverse.com/movies/batmanbegins2/006550689.cfm


[spoil][align=left]Tonight, at the Loews IMAX theater on the upper west side of Manhattan, director Chris Nolan debuted the first six minutes of the upcoming “The Dark Knight” movie, a sequel to the Christian Bale-starring, multi-million-dollar-earning “Batman Begins,” to a crowd of about 60 people. Set to swing into theaters July 18, 2008, “Dark Knight” has been hyped for its inclusion of not just one, but two new villains—Two-Face (played by Aaron Eckhart) and the already mentioned, much discussed Joker (played controversially by Heath Ledger).

“I don’t want to bore you,” Nolan joked as he introduced the clip, which will play in select IMAX theaters prior to “I AM Legend” next weekend and was lifted directly from the film. Nolan went on to explain that “Dark Knight” marks the first time a major motion picture utilized the IMAX filming technique.

“I wanted to make the Joker’s introduction a mini film,” added the director. “That’s what this footage is. So we shot it in this higher-quality, more intense format to get across that feeling.” Then, the footage began.

Kicking off with a sweeping shot of downtown Gotham, the camera zooms in above a few buildings before focusing in on a single, traditional skyscraper covered in windows. Suddenly, one window in the skyscraper explodes outward, exposing two criminals inside. Donning clown masks and standing with a rifle, the two criminals shoot a grappling hook across a busy street below to the next building—the Gotham National Bank. The two then slide across using a zip line.
On the street below, a man stands, his face unseen as the shot creeps up from behind, a clown mask slung in his grip. A van suddenly screeches up before he climbs inside and the van hauls off again. Inside, there are now three men, all wearing clown masks. They begin negatively discussing their boss and how he’s sitting out the heist. “The guy thinks he can sit out and get a cut?” laughs one man. “Must be why they call him the Joker!”

Back on the bank’s roof, the two men we first saw now shimmy into the bank’s security wiring while also discussing the boss. “Why do you think they call him Joker?” asks one. “I hear it’s cause he wears make-up,” answers the other. “Like war paint.”

Suddenly, below, the three men blast into the bank, demanding money and commanding everybody to the floor. Back on the roof, the two criminals intercept the out-going emergency alarm set off by an employee. After they cancel its signal, one of the men shoots the other and heads inside for the vault.

Back inside, the clown gunmen hand all the hostages live grenades. “We wouldn’t want your hands free would we?” asks one with a laugh.

At the vault, a clown opens the door, and just then a second clown shoots him in the back. They’re taking each other out so that the cut between them grows higher! And it’s all because the boss, the Joker, has told them to.

Back in the lobby, a bank manager surprisingly begins firing on the clown gunmen with a shotgun hidden under his desk. Turns out this bank belongs to an influential mobster and the manager, fearless and crazed, says as much to the clowns as he walks defiantly at them. He takes one out with a point-blank blast.
Two remain and manage to disarm the manager by shooting him in the arm before one clown turns his gun on the other.

“I’m sure the boss told you to take me out first,” says the one holding the gun. “No,” says the other, his hands in the air as he sways back in forth as if he didn’t care a gun was pointed at his chest. “I called a bus.”

“What?” asks the one holding a gun. And then BOOM, a school bus bursts its back end through the wall of the bank, killing the clown holding the gun! The lumpy driver steps out and asks what’s happened to the gang, just as the clown who’s life he saved shoots him without remorse.

The surviving clown begins to board the bus with bags of money when the bank manager, lying on the floor bleeding, tells the clown he has no idea who he’s messing with and asks why the crooks in this city have no beliefs anymore. The lone clown aborts boarding the bus and instead turns to the manager. The manager asks him dead to his face, “What do you believe in?”

As the clown slowly places a concussion grenade in the manager’s mouth, he removes his mask, exposing his scar-ridden face. It’s the Joker! “I believe that whatever doesn’t kill you simply makes you stronger,” he says before smiling a huge, twisted grin.

The grenade has a string attached to its pin and as the Joker boards the bus, the string goes taut. When he pulls away and the pin comes loose, the manager lays sweating on the floor. Surely his head is about to explode! Instead, the bottom of the grenade emits a gray, harmless gas. It was a joke!

On the street, the bus pulls into traffic along with several others. Before long, sirens can be heard, but by then, the bus is lost in the crowd. The Joker gets away.

Then the footage cuts to several quick clips, including the new Batsuit in a cage, the new Batpod, the Batmobile (aka, the Tumbler), a shot of a fire truck on fire in the streets of Gotham, Batman on a roof overlooking his city and, finally, a clip of Lieutenant Gordon (played by Gary Oldman) using an ax to shatter the Batsignal.
When the lights came up, applause greeted Nolan before he invited everybody to join him in the lobby for cocktails.

Look for the footage to appear before select prints of “I Am Legend” in IMAX starting next weekend. “Hopefully they’ll play up until the movie comes out next summer,” added Nolan, who’s built a bigger, better, more intense corner into his Batman universe. Don’t be a Joker yourselves. Go see it![/align][/spoil]

ABOVE - dialog proven from leaked casting sides from earlier.
BELOW - the bus escape was video-ed here (unhide for youtube):

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new viral site: http://www.whysoserious.com/steprightup/

there's a countdown clock. noon tomorrow EST "something" happens...


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Darth Hade wrote:
The Joker pics are good. I kind of like the idea of Joker mutilating his own face, but the skin not being permawhite bothers me.


that also bothered me at the beginning, but it looks like Nolan wants to give the mass murdering sociopath as realistic a take as possible. and you gotta admit, if there really was a person alive as crazy as the Joker, he really would look like that.


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Yeah, the Joker is the one design I'm totally okay with, it's totally a realistic take on what a sadistic weirdo would do to himself to become that kinda clown-type character

The Batman Suit does bother me, looks like they've changed it even more from the earlier designs we've seen, it looks waaaay to busy for mine, and as long as it doesn't glow, or do any weird shit like the Kilmer and Cloony Batsuits did, I don't have too much of a problem.

I think also, we're looking at images on static white backgrounds, which makes a HUGE difference, because on film the cosutmes will look totally different...expecially with treatment in post-production etc


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I think if they keep Bats in the shadows, always perched on a railing, or something...the suit won't flub up the film too much. I think it will be okay....except that promo pick was like a horrid return to BATMAN & ROBIN.


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lol ! you beat me posting it. I'm quite displeased. it's really boring. I mean, all that freaking work that people did, actually DRIVING around to places in cities spread out across America, and that's the payoff !!! :whateva: :whatevaho:


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Sorry, bv. I had been watching the site fairly intently, waiting for the last prize to go away. I’m glad I did as I was able to register for the 12/06 IMAX screening in Philly. If I get in, I’ll give a report.

In regard to the poster, I think its pretty slick for a “teaser.”


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I love it! It's really clever. Just what a teaser should be.

I so hope they do a cool run of say, 4 or 5 character posters ala Batman Begins where you got a whole bunch of really cool Batman images, plus that Iconic one of him Flying down that stairwell...

I've got a giant sized one of the latter hanging on my wall, it looks so awesome...


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I agree, that's gotta be a teaser poster, not the real theaterical poster. I personally think it looks fine as well.


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Apparently the first 6 mins of the film has been shown around the place, someone needs to video it & upload it asap! hahah.

No but seriously.

Do it.


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Here is the text of the Wizard article:

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Lieutenant Jim Gordon's trying desperately to catch a glimpse of the Joker. Time and time again, though, the clown-faced mad-man has evaded arrest and the bloody trail of armed robbery and murder in the criminal's wake has the officer restless and exhausted. Now, finally, Gordon's got his perp trapped. When a bank heist falls apart, Gordon and a S.W.A.T. team track the Joker to a vault with no exit.

But when Gordon and his men arrive, line against the concrete walls in flanking positions, the dark room stands still and empty. No Joker. No accomplices. Nothing. Just a few small stacks of money discarded like crumbs in the center of the cold, vacant vault – a twister little “F you” to the police.

“It's empty!” screams Gordon, his voice booming off the back wall as he loses his usually cool demeanour. In a final fit of rage Gordon turns and kicks the pile of money into a cloud of flailing dollar bills.

For Gordon, the Joker's evasion has been an irritatingly common scenario. No one, not even Batman can manage a handle on the criminal. That elusiveness extends to movie-goers who've been kept in the dark about the Clown Prince of Crime since he was first alluded to in the final minutes of 2005's "Batman Begins." The film, directed by Christopher Nolan, went on to gross over $370 million worldwide and revamped the Bat-franchise. Now Nolan looks to reignite that blockbuster status in summer 2008 - only this time he'll be banking on a man in white make-up with a twisted Kool-Aid smile.

Swooping into theaters on July 18, 2008, "The Dark Knight" focuses on the Batman's continued urban war on crime. Rejoining Nolan as millionaire Bruce Wayne (and the titular crime-fighting badass) is actor Christian Bale, who's accompanied by returning all-stars Gary Oldman (Lt. Gordon), Morgan Freeman (Lucius Fox) and Michael Caine (Alfred). But it's the Joker, played by Heath Ledger, who fans are wetting themselves to see. And despite the media blackout surrounding the villain, Heath has been able to sneak out a few tidbits about his take on the character.

"To play a villain, one must throw it all out the window," revealed Ledger in an online interview. "And I have not yet really explored that kind of dark side, which makes me enthusiastic to play [the Joker]. This role, I am told will be like watching a car wreck that won't stop. And from the script pieces I've been sent on my character's angles, it just gets deeper and deeper. This guy is a shark, a fearless shark, and I know I can bring that alive."

A creepy little Joker with an inner monster the size of Jaws isn't the only addition to the franchise. Between new gadgets, a wave of fresh characters and the confirmation of at least one other major villain in the film (Two-Face!), "The Dark Knight" already seems poised to blow away the box office receipts on "Batman Begins" If you've been frustrated with the lack of info on the flick, prepare to come out of the dark.

Shuffling The Joker

Topping, or even matching Jack Nicholson at anything is no easy task. That's why, when Nolan and the crew began developing Batman's arch nemesis for the big screen, they needed to work a new (albeit terrifying) angle different from Nicholson's take on the character in 1989's "Batman".

"What's strong about [the Joker] was this idea of anarchy, this commitment to chaos, " Nolan explains on a warm, sunny afternoon while taking a break from filming "Dark Knight" scenes on set in downtown Chicago. "He's not just a bank robber or an ordinary criminal who's out for any kind of material gain. I talked to Heath a lot about that even as we were finishing the script, and we both agreed that's the most threatening force, in a way, that society faces - that of pure anarchy by someone who really wants to do harm for its sake and for his own entertainment."

That idea of anarchy stems from the Joker's first appearance over 60 years ago in Batman #1. Nolan's younger brother and "Dark Knight" screenwriter, Jonah, came up with the idea of tapping that issue's take on the character to build a practical big-screen baddie. Dozens of murders littered the Joker's first few comic appearances and it was his reaction to the crimes that made him scary.

"There is a murderous quality to him," adds the director. "He's a criminal, but he has this great delight in his murderous nature and there's the great siege of a massively destructive, anarchic force in the way that the guy looks at the world which is quite amazing. He's very much the absolute. That's what we've presented in the film. He is an absolute."

According to Ledger, it's the right way to go. "He's going to be really sinister," the actor said. "it's going to be less about his laugh and his pranks and more about him being a just a f--king sinister guy."

Despite a strong understanding of the character, Ledger polarizes fans across the nation when it was announced in July 2006 that he would play the Joker. Many thought the character actor could bring a quality performance whether or not it was similar to Nicholson's. Others thought the handsome Academy Award nominee ("Brokeback Mountain") could never pull off the grim and gritty attitude needed to portray a sadistic criminal in the "Batman Begins" world. Ledger simply shrugs it all off.

"It would not matter who is chose to play the [Joker]," Ledger publicly stated. "In any film, there is always someone who does not like you and I am secure in my choices and my record. But I know at the end of the day you are never going to please anyone 100 percent...I refuse to carbon copy a performance. That would not be a challenge and it would be mocking Mr. Nicholson, whom I have much respect for."

Respect and secrecy stand out on the set of "The Dark Knight" moreso than on most productions. Since filming began in April 2007, Warner Bros. has done everything in its power to keep the Joker under wraps, shielding Ledger from the press. The only authorized video to be seen was screened before a crown of screaming fans at this past summer's Wizard World Chicago. The studio has also been extremely careful about withholding photos of the purple-clad villain despite the brouhaha that erupted when unauthorized photos of Ledger in costume found there way onto the Internet. The images appeared to be actual stills from the film and featured plot points like the Batman beating on the Joker in a police interrogation room, multiple people in knock-off Batsuits, what appeared to be an early design for the Bat-Computer complete with multiple LCD screens and a close-up of Ledger in Joker makeup. Sites quickly took the pictures down (no doubt due to pressure from Warner Bros. execs and/or legal department), but it was too late. Almost as if the leak was planned by Joker himself in an early comic book "bad guy poisons the water supply" kind of way, "Dark Knight" hysteria was let loose and thousands of people caught the bug. Even Caine, who plays Wayne's trusted butler Alfred Pennyworth, can't hide his excitement.

"[The movie] is about Heath Ledger as the Joker," the 74-year-old actor told mtv.com. "It's one of the scariest performances I've ever seen."

Dressing Up A Madman

If clothes make the man, then what the hell does a psychopathic anarchist wear? According to Nolan, early discussions with Ledger helped develop the look of the character right down to his funky green hair and pocket watch.

"In visual terms, we really tried to go our own way," continues Nolan, who tapped costume designer Lindy Hemming to dress the grinning villain. "Basically, it winds up being an amalgam of looking at everything that's been done with the character and just processing that. Myself and [screenwriter] David Goyer stared very early as I was [still] doing 'The Prestige.' We were just ruminating and allowing our imaginations to remember and take what we took from the history of the comics and put it all together, which is very much how we approached Batman in the first film."

In keeping with the anarchic outline for the Joker, Hemming, whose designs can be seen across genres in everything from "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets " to "Casino Royale," looked toward pop culture's anti-authority figures for influence.

"[The costume] is much more flamboyant and it sort of moves a lot, which he does," clarifies Hemming of the character's flailing, manic demeanor. "We started off going through all sorts of reference material with [pop icons] Pete Doherty, iggy Pop - just going through all kinds of people that we could think of might dress like that for real because Chris' whole thing is reality."

That realistic approach led to a less clowny, more punk rock version of the Joker smeared with white makeup and permanently marked with a bubbled, ugly scar extending his mouth into a monstrous smirk. Reports indicate the Joker begins the film as a nobody thug before an unkown attack results in his disfigurement thanks to a razor blade. Left for dead, the encounter alters the man's perceptions resulting in the birth of Batman's greates villain.

"We just find him dressed like this, and you can assume that he might've been dressed like that for years," Hemming reveals. "Whatever he's been up to and doing, before we meet him he's been wearing these clothes. He's already scarred in the film, so the makeup comes from what he does to himself to enhance that rather than to look like a clown. It's much more of a street kind of Joker rather than a man who puts on a clown mask.

Whatever happened, it's clear the scarring pushes the joker over the edge. And it looks like he's not the only criminal element looking to make Gotham his playground. According to Nolan, the key to the Joker's motivation, as well as the basic plot of the film, can be found in the final moments of "Batman Begins" after Batman's takedown of a major crime element creates a power vacuum in Gotham City.

"Really, the key point is Gordon's little speech about escalation and the idea of [Batman's] radical response to crime the prompting [crime's] own radical nature," says Nolan. "At the end of the first film where the Joker idea was presented, it's very clear that that was our idea of 'Yes, Batman succeeded, but at the same time he's definitely going to prompt a very extreme response.' That's the jumping off point for this film, the extreme response to Batman's war on crime."

As a sequel, "Dark Knight" not only follows the same themes and storylines as "Batman Begins," but also shares the same idea that character development is just as important as plot. Producer Charles Roven agrees and adds that Nolan's ability to create motivated, compelling characters won't be discarded this time around.

"Bruce Wayne didn't even don his Bat-suit until an hour into 'Batman Begins,'" indicates Roven. "That while first hour was character, and there was some good action in it, but it was still character there. The great thing we were able to do on this film is that we jump right into it. You meet the Joker and Harvey Dent early on and each on of their characters is interesting and compelling."

Two Faces Of The Law

If you saw Aaron Eckhart on the street, you'd confuse him for a JC Penny's catalogue model. Ruggedly handsome in a striped, light blue button-down shirt and faded black slacks on a day off from shooting, he looks more likely to pilot a yacht than fight crime. But don't that his good looks fool you. as Harvey Dent, Gotham's new District Attorney, he's got his eyes set on justice.

"At the end of 'Batman Begins,' the D.A. was killed so Dent is elected as the new D.A.," explains Roven. "That's really how he comes into the story. He's got a alot of charisma and is someone who's the law enforcement arm together with Gordon who are going to clean up the streets [in ways] that the previous police commissioner and the previous D.A. were never able to do."

Like Bale, Eckhart, who's seen all the Batman films, plays a dual role in "Dark Knight" when an accident scars half his face, turning the D.A. into the villainous Two-Face. Far from a cut-and-dry bad guy, Two-Face deals with an extreme bipolar disorder that forces him to teether between well-intentioned actions and psychotic episodes of violence. For Eckhart, the transformation is something deeper than just a wounded face.

"Harvey is a very good guy in the comic books," justifies the actor. "he's judicious. He cares. And the he turns into this character and things happen. I think that it's interesting about human behavior that under certain circumstances, in one minute you can believe in one thing, and then the world can change and you believe in another thing. In terms of villains and movies, in anyones motivation you're always trying to improve your lot in life and to exact your own code and I think that Harvey/Two-Face has a code and his code is killing people for reasons that will remain secret [for now]."

But before the transformation, Harvey shares another connection with the Caped Crusader stemming from "Batman Begins." In the first film, Bruce Wayne's childhood friend (and assistant D.A) Rachel Dawes discovers his superhero secret identity. Despite and attraction between the two, neither steps over the friendship line. That all changes in "Dark Knight" when Dent makes a move for Dawes, creating a tricky love triangle.

Originally portrayed by actress Katie Holmes, Dawes is played by Maggie Gyllenhaal in "Dark Knight" after Mrs. Tom Cruise decided not to return for the sequel. Gyllenhaal has kept generally mum on her portrayal of the character. but has publicly spoke about stepping into Katie's shoes.

"I'm not thinking of it as a role that anyone's played before, Gyllenhaal told the Post Chronicle. "I'm not walking into Katie Holmes' performance. I'm thinking of it as an opportunity to play somebody who's alive and smart. Christ asked me to do this because he wanted me, not because he wanted some generic lady in a dress."

And although her words taken out of context may imply some animosity about the cast change on set, Bale is quick to squash any misconceptions.

"Katie did a very good job and Maggie is doing a fantastic job as well," he says with all sincerity. "Obviously, Maggie brings her own substance to the role...[the transition has] been as seamless as is possible to be."

Adding Gyllenhaal to the film provided another kind of collaborator on the film for Nolan. "She pushed me quite hard on the script once she was on board to really try to make the most out of the character and have the character be as important and as credible in the story as possible," Nolan points out. "she has very good story instincts. So she bought a lot to the character early on both in the substance of how we were treating her character in scenes, but also in the way that she played it."

The recasting isn't the only seamless transition on set. Look for Bruce Wayne's Bat-garage to get an overhaul, just like his love life.

Bat-Wheels

Joining the returning tank-like Batmobile (aka, the Tumbler) is the motorcycle-like Bat-pod (see sidebar), and experimental machine that allows. Batman access to tighter areas like alleyways. Set on two, hulking custom-rounded tires that allow for better steering, the Bat-Pod seems like something out of "Mad Max". In "Dark Knight," when Batman's urban war on crime demands a sleeker mode of transportation that the Batmobile, he has WayneTech's Research and Development guru Lucius Fox whip up the Bat-Pod. Originally, Nolan and production designer Nathan Crowley constructed a prototype of the vehicle in Nolan's driveway at home.

"I got brought up to L.A. to see this bike, this Pod," laughs special effects supervisor Chris Corbould as he looks up at a photo of the vehicle behind him. "I thought, 'There's no way with the big wide wheels on it.' It's just not a traditional bike."

Eventually, after months of stress tests where driveability and safety were measured, this bike was cleared for filming. In all, six bikes were constructed for filming. And if you ask for a definitive top speed, you may be out of luck - none were made with speedometers.

"In the real world we have different gearings, but I'm guessing up to 90 or 100 miles an hour if we geared it to do that," boasts Courbould. "If it has to get away fast, we have bikes geared for that."

Batman's wheels aren't the only gadgets earning an upgrade. Look for the Dark Knight to sport an entirely new suit in the upcoming film. Constricting due to its one-piece design, the outfit seen in "Batman Begins" made it difficult for Bale to move or show expression in his head and neck area. For nearly seven months while filming, Bale couldn't rotate his head more than a few inches right or left, up or down. Graham Churchyard, an assistant costume designer on "Batman," was brought on to provide several alterations to the suit.

"The 'Begins' suit is made out of rubber latex which comes out of a tree as a milky product," describes Churchyard as he points to the fully assembled, 30-pound outfit hanging from a pulley. "[The new suit] is a similar process of manufacturing, but it's [made of] polyurethane. It's used to glue every windshield in the world and it's also used in the automative industry for fenders and steering wheels."

Because the rubber latex in the "Begins" suit didn't allow for much breathing room, it became dangerously hot very quickly for Bale and stuntmen. And while you will see the original suit during part of "Dark Knight," Bale says he prefers the new, cooler version despite it's eight-pound increase from the original.

"If any of you had to wear the first one then you would love this one as much as I do," laughs Bale. "It's all about speed, It's about [Batman] needing to be faster than he was before."

But why does Bats require a faster outfit? According to Hemming, the story demanded the update.

"The technical reasons are that he requests a more modern, more mobile, easier to operate suite," she teases. "So Lucius Fox obviously sets about trying to make him a new suit. Storywise thought, I don't really want to tell you what that is. It's a decision that he makes."

Whatever the need may be, look forward to additions like hydraulic-powered hand attachment capable of crushing metal and other materials in Batman's grip. And remember that row of razor-sharp fin spikes on the under part of his forearm? Look for a second row to emerge in "Dark Knight" and both capable of firing out at thugs as short-distance projectiles. Bale, who didn't put on as much physical muscle for "Dark Knight" as he did for "Batman Begins," says the suit's changed all go back to the story.

"It's part of the evolution and why he's choosing a different suit," admits the actor. "He wants to be able to move quicker."

Guarding Gotham

Outfitted with a new Bat-Pod and updated threads, Batman's gearing up for a major war thanks to Gotham City's surging criminal population. After Bats took down mob boss Carmine Falcone in "Batman Begins," an empty seat of underworld power materialized in the city. Look for new goons in town including Eric Roberts as Salvatore Maroni, the mob's replacement for Falcone, and Michael Jai White as Gamble, a competitor for Maroni.

On the law-abiding side of things, Gordon gets a hand from a character named Detective Ramirez played by actress Monique Curnen ("Dexter"). Early reports indicated Curnen would play Renee Montoya, a female detective in Batman comic book continuity, but have since been scuttled. Also look for Wayne to relocate into a downtown penthouse since his family mansion burned to the ground in the last film. And expect plenty of development in Batman's arsenal of skills.

"In this movie he does much more easily assume a more detective type role," says Nolan. "That was something that was important for us to get in the first film. we got in there in a small way, but in dealing with the origin and dealing with all of the larger aspects of the character I that that it became very difficult to get that in there. What we've tried to put into this is all the stuff that we couldn't get in that first film. Him as a detective is one of those aspects."

All in all, Nolan and company stayed true to their attempt at remaking the Batman franchise for a new generation. From creating a fully realized pocket universe to explaining the use of gadgets and gizmos in completely tangible ways to well-rounded characters whose motivations are understandable, it's sometimes easy to forget he's making a sequel to a comic book movie. But Nolan's bucked that negative stigma and it's due in large part to his star.

"I think that if anything, with sequels, people start getting a little complacent about it and it's nice to try and maintain," muses Bale. "I always enjoy when people are thinking that a movie is going to fail miserably. i get quite a kick out of that. It's tougher for me to deal with when everyone thinks that I'm going to be a home run from the get-go. I don't know what to do with it as much."

That's a lesson Bale better learn fast now that he's had a hand in making "Dark Knight" one of the most anticipated films of 2008. And if he's afraid of everyone thinking the film's about to hit a home run, he might want to think twice about acting alongside Ledger as the Joker, whose appearance alone may pack theater seats. Even on set, Oldman, who just hours before as Gordon, couldn't catch the villain in a bank vault, speaks heavy with anticipation.

"The smile and scars from a razor.. he's very forbidding and not like a clown," Oldman describes of Ledger's Joker in a low, serious voice. "It's very dangerous, very unhinged, what he's doing and he plays him like someone on - I don't know. It's like Coco the Clown on crack...Heath is going to blow you away."
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Fan-freakin'-tastic

Okay well, this article removes any conerns I had about some of the story. I have no issue with the new suit now that I understand its story driven.

The only thing that seems unclear is whether or not we see the Joker's scarring or not. It appears we may not see it.


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So, this Joker's origin is basically that he actively takes on a persona, inspired by a particular event, much like Batman.

I like that much better then him accidentally falling into a vat of chemicals and being turned into a clown.


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It actually works perfectly as an arch enemy, being the opposite of the hero by choice.


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Okay, that was a great read. Not too many major spoilers was also really nice and I like how they're weaving the changes (BatPod, Batsuit et-al) into part of the story, so it's not just for a toyline type excuse. I'm still not over-awed with the way the new suit has looked in the stills, but if it gives Bale more performance for movement and expression, then how BAD can it REALLY be? I'll suffer a busy looking outfit for a better performance anyday.

It sounds like Heath's joker is going to kick some serious ass. Just hope they DON'T kill him off and the article read like Two-Face has a larger part to play in the story too, because I sorta understood that he was more a side-story, come cameo type thing...so that's interesting I'm yet to see a superhero style film that has worked well with more than one bad comic-guy in the film, but perhaps this will buck the trend.

I just so hope they don't team up ala Sandman/Venom in Spiderman 3 because that was the biggest clusterfuck of a movie, ever and I re-watched that film the other day and my god is it bad the story is so weak and tepid. I'm sure Nolan will stay away from this route, given Batman Begins.

But that article definitely helps the decisions we've seen artistically to make a little more sense.


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Y'know what would tickle my fancy

If this story ended up being kind of a two-parter. The films could be self contained, but whereas this film is really about the Joker w/ the Two Face origin...perhaps film three can be about Two Face and wrap up the Joker story line.

Perhaps the Face can wax the Clown. That would thrill me to no end. They could have even teamed up for part of the last film. The Joker could convince Face that Batman is really to blame but the duality in Two Face could cause him a heck of time, and ultimately he would kill Joker.


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I'm yet to see a "Superhero" style film that has worked well with more than one "bad comic-guy" in the film, but perhaps this will buck the trend.


Begins ostensibly had two villians with Scarecrow and Ra's Al Ghul (three if you count Falcone, all though he was always more of a heavy to me in the first flick). Nolan's handling of both in the previous film really has me excited to see his take on The Joker and, in particular, Two Face. Given Nolan's take on Batman's rogues gallery thus far, Face could make The Joker look like a pussy cat.


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My recap from the Philly screening is below. I apologize if I remember a few things incorrectly.

I would be very surprised if footage leaked from these early screenings. Warner Brother sent two security guards the showing I attended. All electronic devices were disallowed in the theater. Those individuals who managed to sneak phones into the theater were spotted pretty quickly. One of the guards used night vision goggles to view the crowd as the teaser was shown.

[spoil][align=left]The film starts with the studio credits just like any other movie. There is low music in the background which starts slowly and begins to pulse slightly as it gets closer to the first shot. As reported, the first image is a daytime helicopter shot over Gothman City. The shot ends inside an upper level office in a skyscraper. Two goons in rubber clown masks blast out a window in the office and shoot a cable to an electrical unit on a neighboring building’s roof. They then slide across the cable to the roof. The next image is a full shot of the back of Ledger as he stands on a street corner. The camera pans in on the back of his head and then down to the clown mask in his left hand. Ledger’s hair is clearly dark brown in this shot. He puts on the mask as a van abruptly stops at the corner. Two more masked goons are in the front. Ledger gets in the back. The robbers are discussing the upcoming heist. They talk about the payout having to be split six ways between themselves and the ringleader who is called the Joker. Ledger says nothing while in the van. There is then a cut back to the two thugs on the rooftop. As one of the goons is working one the electrical unit, they discuss how the Joker got his name because he wears a disguise. One goon states that his make-up looks like war paint. The first goon finishes working on the unit. He says that the silent alarm is now disabled. The second thug then guns the first in the back.

There is an immediate cut from the gun firing to the other goons entering the bank. The music begins to pulse more quickly and become louder. There is lot of quick cutting as the robbers take control of the bank lobby. Only one of the goons in the lobby speaks. Ledger simply goes around in a matter-of-fact manner. At some point, there is a shot of the bank manager in his office. The bank manager slides his chair back and listens without much expression to the distant commotion in the lobby. The next cut is to the vault area. The remaining goon from the roof uses a tool on the vault door. The camera then cuts between the vault, the manager, and the lobby. The patrons are eventually given round grenades to keep their hands busy.

One of the goons from the van joins the one by the vault. He has brought bags for the money. He asks the first goon why the Joker had targeted this bank. The first goon states that the bank has mob money in it. The second goon then asks what happened to the second thug from the roof. As he cracks the vault, the first goon explains that he was asked to kill him so that the spread would be higher. The second goon states that the Joker had told him the same thing. The safecracker quickly realizes what is about to happened and pleads for his life. He is shot as he turns around. The second robber then enters the vault and places money from a stack into one of the bags.

As the robber with the bags reenters the lobby, the bank manager shoots through a glass partition with a sawed-off shotgun and kills him. The remaining two robbers duck. The manager focuses on Ledger. The manager walks forward while firing several shots rapidly. Ledger crawls frantically on his hands and knees behind a a series of podiums. The manager misses Ledger and hits the podiums instead. Between shots, the manager states that the robbers don’t realize with whom they are dealing. Ledger eventually joins up with the other robber who is also ducking behind a podium. For whatever reason, the manager stops firing. The goon asks Ledger if he believes that the manager is out of ammo. Ledger thinks for a second and then nods franticly. The second goon stands up to take a shot. As he does this, he is almost blasted by the manager. The goon then ducks down and tells Ledger angrily that he can’t count. The manager then begins reloading the shotgun. Ledger promptly stands up and shoots the manager in the arm. I think he gets shot in the side or the leg as well. It’s difficult to tell since there is no blood or bullet wounds visible on the manager. Ledger’s gun is an automatic pistol. It looks like a 9mm, but sounds like an uzi when it fires.

After firing, Ledger turns around and begins walking toward the entrance. His posture is broad and hunched. He walks in a deliberate manner. The remaining goon stands up and tells Ledger that their boss probably told Ledger to shot him. The goon then points his gun at Ledger. Ledger says “No, I killed a school bus driver.” The goon is puzzled. As Ledger moves away from the entrance, the goon asks Ledger what he is talking about. Suddenly a school bus crashes through the entrance of the bank. The goon is knocked down during the collision. Ledger grabs a bag of money and loads it on the bus. The driver gets out and states in an amused tone that the goon “doesn’t look like he’ll be getting up.” Joker does not react. Instead, he turns around, holds his gun behind him, and shoots the driver without looking at him. Ledger then loads the final bag on the bus. The manager asks Ledger why he doesn’t believe that ringleader will kill him. Ledger doesn’t seem to be paying attention. As Ledger gets on the bus, the manager states that criminals in Gotham used to believe in something. The manager asks Ledger what he believes in. Ledger hears him and pauses for a second. He then turns around, gets off the bus, and walks over to the manager. The next shot is at a very low angle and is meant to represent the manager’s POV from the floor. Ledger is standing over the manager. He is positioned in the middle to right side of the frame. Ledger turns his head to the right slightly and removes the mask. He then leans in for an extreme close-up of his face in full Joker make-up. The make-up is thick and wrinkles are very prominent. The lighting is overexposed, which makes his face appear bright white. Joker says “I believe that whatever doesn’t kill you only makes you .... stranger.” He gives a broad closed-mouth smile. His eyes are cold. The manager is in shock. Joker places a concussion grenade in the manager’s already open mouth. A pink string is attached to the pin. Joker gets on the bus. When Joker turns around, you can see that his hair is now green and not dark brown like in the previous shots. The bus pulls away quickly, and almost immediately, the pin comes out of the grenade. Tan smoke emits from the grenade. The bus pulls into a procession of school buses. Kids can be heard cheering, indicating that the other buses are filled with school children. The police arrive on the scene at the end of the sequence.

The music begins to swell as the final shot fades out. There is then a cut to a medium close-up of the new Batsuit hanging in the penthouse headquarters. This is followed by a shot of the tumbler driving in a semicircle in the same headquarters. Next is a medium close-up of the Joker followed by a cut to the Batpod moving at unbelievably fast speed. The Batpod continues up from an exit ramp to an empty freeway. The next image is a very low angel shot of the Joker. It is almost a full shot of him and he is framed from his front right side. Its night and a building can be seen over his shoulder. He appears to be on the street. He is in gorilla walk mode and has a very angry expression. He holds a submachine-gun in his hands. For a brief moment, Joker frowns and fires the gun to his right. Next there is an awesome shot of Batman on the roof of a building. It’s a medium distance shot. Its night and he is standing on the corner of the roof. He is holding his right hand up to his ear as if he has a listening device. The camera slowly pans in a circle around him. The final shot shows a very tense mob with Lt. Gordon. The mob is huddled around the Batsignal. Gordon uses an ax to smash the illuminated signal.[/align][/spoil]


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Thanks for the description.

What's up with the Joker not having makeup on during the opening of the scene yet suddenly having it for the big reveal?

A lot of other descriptions have noted it too.

I hope this wasn't some big fuck up Nolan's part.


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The make-up change is just Nolan playing with the audience's expectations. I didn't expect the Joker to be wearing make-up when he lifted the mask and was surprised to see that he was wearing it. Initially, I thought that this was cheating on Nolan’s part. But, I'll grant him a little bit of surrealism when dealing with the Joker.

I forgot to mention that there is a shot of a fire truck burning in the final montage. The truck is on an empty street at night. The camera views the fire truck from passing vehicle. The red truck and orange flames contrast when the blue tint of the lighting.

Below is a shot of Ledger waiting on the corner for the van.

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Wow. Suit actually doesn't look that bad there.


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The body looks cool, but the neck seems weird. It almost looks like he should be choking.


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new Batpod pic: :heavymetal:

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Nice picture. I wasn’t a big fan of the Batpod until I saw it in motion in the trailer. I now think it’s as badass as the Tumbler.


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Boo to you seeing the trailer already! hahaha.


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trailer description:

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Here is how it goes.

It starts with Batman on Batpod driving.

Then it shows Mayor and Gordon. Gordon is telling the Mayor "No Id. No Fingerprints. Custom Clothes." Then it shows Joker, smiling, saying "Hello Sergant"

It then shows Joker shooting RPG.

Joker grabbing someone, and in a pissed tone saying "why so serious?"

Then it shows Joker walking toward Rachel in penthouse and says "you're a fighter" then Batman I guess comes out of nowhere and says "then your gonna love me" and kicks Joker.

Joker going down street in back of police car and he is letting his hair blow in the wind.

Joker shooting machine gun, looking pissed saying "I'm gonna put a smile on all their faces" and then batman races towards him on batpod, then joker says "come on, hit me!"

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It was pretty scattershot. But it opens with the batpod driving up what looks to be a parking garage ramp. Then we see Gordon and the mayor stand in what looks like jail giving the he has no name no finger prints dialogue. The Joker then looks up and says Hello Lt. Gordon, his paint slightly running. Then it shows the joker holding someone down maybe batman, and he says in a pissed off voice, why so serious? Then the Joker is laying with his torso out of the back of a police cruiser with his eyes closed, which was really bad ass! Then he is in Bruce's Pent House walking toward rachel, and he says, OH a fighter i like your type and batman says then you're gonna love me. then it shows the joker shooting the RPG. And then at the end the joker and batman are alone on a dark empty street. The joker says I'm gonna Make them all smile. Batman races toward him on the batpod and the joker yells come on hit me, batman rides past him and circles around. It goes to the bat signal and the dark knight


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