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Post Posted: May 11th 2004 9:16 pm
 
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Unfortunately, I am not sitting on any information here guys. DK37 didn't want to release all his 'information' at once and I suggested maybe once a week which he liked the idea of. So please don't imply that I am sitting on a hoard of 'spoiler' material and that I am somehow cheating you out of your childhood raping.


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DK says Luke is born first... but that contradicts the scriptment, which i believe is more accurate.


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Did Lucas go in shooting the first two prequel films using the first draft of the script? I could've sworn the AOTC shooting script was a 2nd draft.


Post Posted: May 11th 2004 9:48 pm
 
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Well, he is back answering questions at TFN, but he keeps removing what he posts. He has also started PMing answers to some people. Hopefully, those that see the answers can post them (here or there).


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hmmmm

I have only been on the spoiler boards since near the end of AOTC and hated TFN... PERIOD

Some of the things this DK said made sense. I am no fanboi ( I just love Star wars) so this is purely objectionable. To me it seems that OB1 needs to see ani in the suit. Its a worse plot hole than leia and "I knew mom" since he sez "VADER" on the MF.

Now... Like I said b4... seems the spoiler guys (something I am not around nor have any knowledge of) is like a paranoid cult. From what the regulars have been saying for quite sometime (been here since I saw Tern posting at X and Tern moved here permanantly) is this spoiler was right, that one was wrong. It's like spoilers are a mix of BS and truth.. to cover ones own trax to stay away from the LFL legal hell.

I too agree that I am a big boy and "can handle the truth".. <--- Jack Nicholas voice

Either way I like this and X's crowd... real peeps with real minds...
For me. a long time lurker who recently registered here and at X, I had nothing really to say cuz these two boards are loaded with smart-ass people (in the funny and not so funny sense). So since most every aspect was covered, there was no need, IMHO, to parrot what someone else had said.

K.. Thanks for listening.. put Ellen back on.

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How is it a plothole if Obi-Wan doesn't see Vader?


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Boy, am I glad I only just heard about the stuff that happened today after the dust settled...

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There's no way Obi Wan can see Anakin IN THE SUIT. It can't happen. There's simply no way, in the way the plotting is laid out, that it can happen. After Obi hacks off Anakins arms and Legs, Anakin FALLS. Obi RUNS. They flee Mustafar, Padme dies, Obi takes the kid--and that's it. Vader doesn't go in the suit until AFTER Padme is dead--and there's no time nor space to fit any sort of meeting between Vader and Obi Wan. It simply can't happen.


That really stuck out to me too. I don't know what to make of all this, to be honest. I mean, DK could very well have gotten his hands on a different version of the script, like TM mentioned; I mean we all know how much Lucas likes to change his mind. The jury's still out in my opinion, but atleast all this stuff's giving us something to talk about. Man... now I know why I didn't get into this spoiler stuff for the previous flicks.


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I'm of the belief that if you have any info on EPIII then you should release it as you see fit. Whether that means hosting a site for the script :cool: , or dropping hints and clues :heavymetal: , or whatever I'm not one to argue or give a toss.

Who the fuck are we to complain if he doesn't want to share all, this day, this very hour. Get off the motherfuckers back. If it does all turn out to be a steaming pile of BS we can lynch him later - I'll even lead the charge.

Until then, relax, have a beer and a smile, and shut the fuck up. Any whiny TFN'er spoiler whores can fuck right off right now. :vfuckoff: Yes, the whiny pre-pubescent ones. If you think for a moment I may have catergorised you, then in all probablity I am right. You have been :schoolyou:

This doesn't mean DK has been banished until next week. He is still welcome to answer any questions you may have. It's his call. It's also your perogative to be skeptical or whatever, but pls do not resort to flaming.

yeah, this month has a truly radiant aura about it. My venus must be passing uranus at the moment.


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Ok, I've come to the conclusion that DK37 is a major troll.


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How is it a plothole if Obi-Wan doesn't see Vader?


cuz... how, other than the force, would he know first, that his name is vader a pupil of his, and second, that black guy in the armor is Vader?

Yah can't leave something like that to EU and speculation.


And I am opening some heineken..... :heavymetal:


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A couple more:

I will address this one here for a short Time
does vader say anything to Obi after donning the suit?

No he does not
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how do ki-adi and the other "background" jedi (kit fisto, aayla secura, shaak ti) die?

Mmmm. They die as part of the set up by Palpatine.

All except Shaak Ti. Her death is very kool!

have you seen the new Vader suit? is it the same as the original or very different?

Very Similar but with a few Modifications. Not for the better mind you considering the reverse Eningeering'

I have a question: does Anakin and Obi-Wan have ANY long conversations? What do they talk about?

Hmmm. Not sure what you mean long? They have quite a bit of good dialogue.


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Ternian wrote:
.....So please don't imply that I am sitting on a hoard of 'spoiler' material and that I am somehow cheating you out of your childhood raping.


I never said you were chief, apologies if you took it thus. Just calling it like I see it - at the end of the day, it's just a film...anyone hyping spoilers is taking it waaay to seriously in my book.

I'm happy, with none or all ;)

I'm doubting this guy is legit however...he has some legit info obviously, however right or wrong, but I get a feeling he's making up more than he knows.

Good to get something to discuss either way.


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Basically, there's still 20 or so years between Ep 3 and 4, which is plenty of time for Obi-Wan to deduce that Vader is Anakin. It doesn't have to happen in Episode 3.


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ok i see that... fatboy....

But thats info that I never read.. and been reading since B4 filming... and H$.
I never saw that stated on X or MF... My bad

Just seems like other than I sense "That big guy is vader" ob1 is like "Hey there's Vader" in ANH.

Like when I see Vader and say "Damn!! DV!!!" and I am the audience who is supposed to know.

*edit* LS... thats what I am saying... f*ck leaving it to EU and fan speculation... thats a plot hole like leia saying "I knew mum"


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On the Jedi Council, DK answers the following question:

Q: There have been whispers that the script either has leaked and will be released via internet channels soon. Some say that it may be this week or possibly later in the month.


A: I hope now some of you can understand why I have to hold some things back.

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Now, I'm sorry, but his answer makes NO sense! If the script is about to be leaked, then it DOES NOT matter how much he tells! Why does holding stuff back matter to the script coming out this month? His answer actually appears to say "now you know why I can't bullshit you too much - you'll know the REAL story really soon and I'll be exposed as a liar!"


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I guess I am of the mindset of...

"It's gonna leak, here are some tidbits for now."

Kinda like "I can't show my hand" since it will leak and then I can't get busted.. no trace.

Different points of view L Seafood


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how do you dooku wrote:
I guess I am of the mindset of...

"It's gonna leak, here are some tidbits for now."

Kinda like "I can't show my hand" since it will leak and then I can't get busted.. no trace.

Different points of view L Seafood


Or it's "I know vague plot-lines but no real juicy stuff, but I'll throw out what I got and when the script leaks I'll say 'I told you so...I new it all' to cover ones e-bases...so to speak"

Or, I'm wrong.


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Never bothered me.


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yeah but DK thru out new stuff as well..stuff that filled holes. IMHO

Guess we will see..
I bet the movie will be the real answer

Never bothered me either

HDYD :roll:


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It's not Chyren... Chyren could spell.


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but how can they trace him anyway? No one knows who the hell he is. I wouldn't think it'd bug him--if he was worried about being traced, he would have never posted in the first place. You don't go to a messageboard (much less one of the biggest) if you don't have your shit straight in the first place.

It's just weird, that's all.
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I agree in the weird part...

But seems that LFL is tight with the script. So they know who has seen it. IP address' are easily traced even from a library. SO you have a point there.... but it's not Kiddie porn so I don't think LFL would be able to find out what library he posted from..... so his saftety may be greater from a public PC.

And since I am not in the movie biz I don't know the ins and outs on who has what and when they have it and from there how it gets out.

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I hope he's not. It's never all that fun to be yanked around.


Ditto


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It feels to me like those faith healer guys--the questions people are asking are semi-leading--it's easy to run with them and appear to know more than you really do. Whether that's what this guy is doing or not is still iffy.


Nailed it. Right there.

Does anyone know where this guy is getting his "information" from? - IE, has he said he's seen Video Footage and/or Scriptment...I dunno, could've missed it. I was going through before and couldn't see anywhere where he'd mentioned sources - cept for something about "seeing" something - which could mean he has seen footage and/or a script.

....be interesting know his 'reference material' - surely it would have to be a script and not footage?


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...but as a lot of us who have seen this sort of shit before know...

This is the first "insider" I've seen that is polite, knowledgeable and who freely contradicts previous reports. I have no idea if he is legit, but his behavior is unique. Fakers are usually idiots who incorporate all known info into their fictions. This "feels" different to me, for now.


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Dooku actually becomes Vader while Anakin becomes....sorry can't tell you, I don't want you to shit your pants.

I guess I'm an insider now. :lol:


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This movie is really really dark and the lightsaber duel kicks ass.


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Yep, he jumped straight back to TFN because he's high on the attention he's getting, he's lapping it up because he's enjoying that everyone's fallen for his BS.


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I'm skeptical about this guy as well ... the thing is if he really was a troll he would slip up somewhere along the line unless he REALLY has his shit together.

All day I've been trying to come up with some official info that contridicts some of the things he is saying ... and guess what I've come up with zilch. Closest thing I could get was that he said Anakin doesn't fall into lava, but PH said it was the stuff of legend which in my mind means lava.

I don't know what to think of this guy. :?


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...ArtMaul, EP, and SI, during their runs, were all of those things...

That's my point. Those are authentic insiders. Almost all fakers I've seen get extremely testy and defensive when a contradiction is pointed out. They usually quit at that point or try to say there is no contradiction. I'm objecting to the notion that we have commonly seen this type of behavior from fakers before.

I'm coming back next tuesday, see ya

But that seems to have been recommended to him. There's much misunderstanding all around.


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yeah, I was in "Mod" mode up there before just trying to smooth the situation over. Not that it was erupting, but with DK leaving all of a sudden, and Tern posting "he'll be back next week!", there were some disgruntled opinions posted which could have lead to something nasty.

Don't worry Fatboy, I'm all for it coming out. And you're right, I am a great dude I don't think that's disputable. :heavymetal:


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....which makes me suspicious...


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I don't think he's faking. Can't blame a guy for being cautious. It's easy to get burned.


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Ziggy wrote:

Hell, the reason I love this site so much is that Darthy is the man. He doesn't tolerate fucktards, and he always shares the goods. Not to mention this site is a veritible who's who of knowledgeable SW fans. :heavymetal:

That's my take on all this.



Agreed.

Legitimate insider or not, this is not the place for silly.

There are tons of other "crap sites" for that.

This place is a refuge against such things.

Quality or quantity.

History has shown that we can seldom have both.


And one more thing...

Many of us have had two movies and years of experience at figuring out the "real deals" from the "wannabes." At this point, it shouldn't be that hard to verify this guy...one way or another.


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Dark_Knight coming back today or next Tuesday?


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He's on the JC right now.


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So we'll be geting TWO Yoda duels in time around(Sid,Vader) :?


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hmmm :cathead:


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DK37's at TFN right now, giving out all the goods. Come on bitches, come on over to TFN.


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Anakin is faced with extreme wind



iirc the extreme wind is from the cruiser being ripped in two and the bit where grevious exits the cruiser into space, the fans were also on set for the duel and the lift shaft(cruiser again)


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He has posted a few bits of dialogue, and 'given away' a few things. Here's a couple of recent bits. (Rebel Scumb's summary in italics):

Anakin enters the Jedi council, and kills those inside. The stormtroopers swarm the Jedi and kill all that they find. Most tragic of all is the death of the younglings, the children whose only crime was their acute awareness of the force. Following the attack, Anakin activates the Jedi homing beacon which signals any Jedi in the galaxy to return to the temple.


Anakin does not enter the Jedi Council. Stormtroopers do not enter. Anakin does not activate the Beacon. Let me try and clean this up with two separate pieces:

Piece 1
The Beackon:
Yoda: "Or Darth Sidious as he calls himself now. ***Dialogue Removed Here****. I Specualte it was he who has activated the Beacon. Only evil can be his purpose. Shut it down we will."


Piece 2
The Younglings & the Temple/ Stromtroopers

The Alderaanian Troops are no match for the Stormtroopers. Most of them fall within minutes. The Jedi spring into action....

---------------------------------------------------

Fire Pilot 1(Over Communicator): "Follow us, We'll put out what fire we can!"

Fire Pilot 2(Over Communicator): There is too much smoke down there?! The Jedi Temple is in Flames!?

Fire Pilot 1(Over Communicator): We can not save it! I have lifeform readings from inside it!?


We see the Trade federation cruiser which hurries through space as two Jedi star fighters s well as dozens of Clone starfighters pursue it, showering the larger vessel with laser fire, as Federation fighters are deployed to stop them.


Not exactly.

This is exact: from the opening scroll

....Transmissions were intercepted by Republic-loyal spies
The Jedi gain support from the Republic Army to amass a large counterattack
A fleet of new proto-type Star Destroyers are on an intercept course with the Confederate Armada.......


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kale xander wrote:
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Come on bitches, come on over to TFN.


i'd rather stab myself in the face.

i think i'll wait for someone with a stronger constitution than mine to wade through the JC shit and post the summary here.


It can't be that bad, no diference btw here & there except for volume of people, & you can swear here.


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This has now vanished. It seems to be trying to say that Obi-Wan says the same line to a clone twice in movie, because we saw him say this while on a greenscreen mount:


Try This:
Obi-Wan puts his hood on to disguise himself as he heads towards the West Side exit to the Platform. Obi-Wan instructs Cody to act as if he is a prisoner to avoid drawing attention to him.

Obi-Wan: ?Now Cody, don?t put these (handing him shackles) on too tight.?

Clonetrooper Captain Cody: ?I won?t sir. I will protect you.?

Obi-Wan: ?I know you will my friend, and stop calling me sir. Now let?s get a move on we have a battle to win, and a rescue to be done.?

Clonetrooper Captain Cody: ?Yes Sir.?


I will not be able to keep this post up for long


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just out of interest, whats the criteria for being a "regular"? is it register date, post count?


Good question. What if we are a daily reader, but not a daily poster?


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You have some "inside info" on the "insider"?

The guys over at TFN continue to stroke his ego and now that people are actually questioning his validity among all the verbal hand jobs he's trudging out the silly "maybe you guys don't deserve it anymore, its not worth the trouble" crap that only tells me he's worried about being outed. The more I see from the guy the less I believe him.


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I know you folks don't know me from Adam, but I do think DK's contact isn't legit.


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DK,

I, like most posters here, have given you the benefit of the doubt as to the validity of your information. To many of us, it doesn't really matter if you are telling the truth or not. We just like the speculation.

Nevertheless, there will always be people here and at TFN that will never believe you. You've been dropping some pretty huge bombs over the past few days which contradicts with what we've heard in the past from proven insiders like EwokPudu.

It would be a real shame for you to just quit altogether because some posters have no qualms about telling you they think you're full of it. If you know the information you are sharing is accurate, why does it matter what these people think? The vast majority are interested in seeing what you have to share. Then we can determine if you are the real deal.

Please continue,
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DK,

I, like most posters here, have given you the benefit of the doubt as to the validity of your information. To many of us, it doesn't really matter if you are telling the truth or not. We just like the speculation.

Nevertheless, there will always be people here and at TFN that will never believe you. You've been dropping some pretty huge bombs over the past few days which contradicts with what we've heard in the past from proven insiders like EwokPudu.

It would be a real shame for you to just quit altogether because some posters have no qualms about telling you they think you're full of it. If you know the information you are sharing is accurate, why does it matter what these people think? The vast majority are interested in seeing what you have to share. Then we can determine if you are the real deal.

Please continue,
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I totally agree. Just skip the posts of those little TFN cunts. (Or could this be moved to somewhere more private place?)


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The signal-to-noise ratio is a bit lower here. So I thought I may as well get a login.

Either site works for me.


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Can you jump ahead & tell us all about this scene, & the huge fight that leads up to it, Dark_Knight_37?


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I'm just spreading the word, folks. :cool:


F---R---A---U---D


H---O---A---X



You'll find out sooner or later.

Like it has been said before; Fake or not. We don't care.


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