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Post Posted: June 6th 2005 9:34 pm
 

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I know it's not exactly the most powerful piece of software out there but I used NeroVision Express 3. It's the most user friendly that I've used and it joined both files easily. Not to mention the fact that it lets you fit it onto a single dvd.

I just put them into .VOB files on my hard drive so I can make copies for a couple friends of mine. The audio channels are still switched but it's pretty decent video quality on my 34 inch lcd in my family room. When I say decent, i mean I can't believe I have something this close to actual dvd quality with the move only out 3 + weeks.

I'm gonna fool around with it some more using the other programs discussed when i have more time to see if there is a quality difference, but it's as good as any of the screen shots posted here.


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I'm a bit of a latecomer when it comes to knowing DVD technology, but isn't there any way at all to play a video file and get a computer DVD writer to record whatever is being played on the fly, sort of like a line-out, or to get a program to capture whatever is being played, like a video version of TotalRecorder that can be recorded in whatever format you pick? That way you can just pick the aspect ratio you want and easily swap the L and R channels, play the thing and record it anew.


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Thanks to Dianoga pointing out this earlier posting, I was able to make a watchable DVD following their instructions. THANK YOU.

The DVD size is 2.8 gig in size.

Does anyone elses pause here and there? Mine does. Maybe there's dust on it.


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Got my DVD version done... it is BEAUTIFUL!! I used TMPGEnc plus.

The reason why DVD playback is choppy on all of y'alls conversions is that you set the framerate wrongly. It either "upsamples" or "downsamples" the frames in a way that makes it play unsmoothly. What you need to do is set the framerate to 23.976 (NTSC-FILM) and make sure you add the 3:2 pulldown flag. This allows you to save disc space as you encode less frames (or have better compression) and have the DVD adjust the framerate on playback to make it play at 29.97 fps. For the most part this is very smooth. There are a few glitches in the source though. If you are converting to PAL, you are screwed. I don't know what the answer is there. :\

And leave the audio alone, unless you are switching the audio channels somehow. I still am looking for a way to do this without having to re-encode. Any ideas?


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Anyone feel like sharing the filters and settings they've used to clean up the XVID? I know someone posted about boosting the gamma, but the video could use some other tweaking (maybe some light sharpening?), and the audio, besides being reversed, on the pack I got, is WAY quieter on the second disc. Anyone else had this problem, and if so, how did you go about fixing it?


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And leave the audio alone, unless you are switching the audio channels somehow. I still am looking for a way to do this without having to re-encode. Any ideas?


Switch your speakers around


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Switch your speakers around


Besides that. ;) And for now I just swap the outputs cables on the back of my player.


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The reason why DVD playback is choppy on all of y'alls conversions is that you set the framerate wrongly. It either "upsamples" or "downsamples" the frames in a way that makes it play unsmoothly. What you need to do is set the framerate to 23.976 (NTSC-FILM) and make sure you add the 3:2 pulldown flag. This allows you to save disc space as you encode less frames (or have better compression) and have the DVD adjust the framerate on playback to make it play at 29.97 fps. For the most part this is very smooth. There are a few glitches in the source though.


Where is there a 3:2 pulldown flag on divxtodvd?


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I don't know how to use DivX to DVD. But if it will let you encode to 23.976 fps framerate, do that and then use this program:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=DGPulldown


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ok guys, i just tried making this into a dvd for the first time and it came out 100% perfect, so here is a short sort of guide for anyone who is still having problems, here is what you are gonna need:

your 2 xvids of ROTS cd 1 and 2
winavi converter (if u cant figure out how to make this puppy full version PM me)
IFO edit

ok so take your first file into your full version winavi converter and transfer it to dvd. this will create a folder with 2 .vob's. Open that folder and delete everything in it except for the vobs, this includes ifo, vub, etc.

then do the same for the second part in another folder
delete the excess files in the second folder as well
then you change the names of the second folder .vob files to:
yur first folder should have these files:
VTS_01_1.vob
VTS_01_2.vob

yur second folder should have the same files
now rename your second folder files so that they read
VTS_01_3.vob
VTS_01_4.vob
combine the folders

now go into IFOedit and CREATE new ifo
leave settings as is and select VTS_01_1.vob
save the files in the same folder as your .vobs
ifoedit will do the rest for you

now you should have a VIDEO_TS folder with the following files
VTS_01_1.vob
VTS_01_2.vob
VTS_01_3.vob
VTS_01_4.vob
VIDEO_TS.bup
VIDEO_TS.ifo
VTS_01_0.bup
VTS_01_0.ifo

NOW I tried this with AHEAD NERO, so i suggest you do the same and cannot vouch for the working of this on any other burning software.

so I then dragged the folder into NERO clicked burn and put it in my dvd player, (tried 3 players, a sony, my pc, and a cheapy)

this dvd is perfect! NO aspect ratio issues, NO audio issues, picture looks the same as the xvid! AND it's even formatted for widescreen! this is what I will be watching till this winter. I hope I have helped people, good luck, you're gonna need it (not really) :heavymetal:

[edit] it's a 2.95 gig dvd [edit]
[double edit] im currently working on making a torrent for the pirate bay to spread this dvd [double edit[


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am also looking into how to fix the switched sound. i don't know much about dvd files tho, so...


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I found this DVD cover earlier but realized it did not match this current DVD project we all are trying to figure out.

So I re-edited it. Hope you like it.
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SKJE9MQDVH1Z1KJVDHKFGWWSK


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I found this DVD cover earlier but realized it did not match this current DVD project we all are trying to figure out.

So I re-edited it. Hope you like it.
http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SKJE9MQDVH1Z1KJVDHKFGWWSK


:lol: thats funny i think ill print it out :)


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A question to anybody that can help me. I am using TMPGenc to convert the AVI files to SVCD (wish I could burn it to a DVD, but I don't have a burner on my computer). After converting the picture looks sweet, but there is no sound. It seperates the video, and audio files, and when I merge the two, I still get no sound.


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Thank you MF Technical Support for your quick reply :)

Is there something I am not doing right that I am not getting sound, or should I try another avi to SVCD ripping program? Is there a good program anybody can recommend?


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Got a TV-out connection on your graphics card? Just hook your TV up and play it through your computer onto the TV.


what I did :heavymetal: my hdtv supports pc-in, for use as a widescreen monitor.

thing plays perfectly on the bright screen, much brighter and vivid than the 15" piece of dell shit I normally use as monitor.


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Sh68, Tmpgenc doesn't like AC3. Try downloading goldwave, swapping the channels while you've messing around in there, and saving the audio as either 16bit PCM, or an MP2 file (if you want to save space). Then put the audio and video back together in VirtualDub (or VirtualdubMOD, or VirtualDub MPEG2) and do a direct stream copy to a new AVI. What you'll have is a file with the audio channels on the right side, and the exact same video quality, which TMPENC can read.


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DagobahWarrior wrote:
And leave the audio alone, unless you are switching the audio channels somehow. I still am looking for a way to do this without having to re-encode. Any ideas?


Zoom Player has a DVD mode, see my post above yours detailing on how to swap the audio channels for playback (without re-encoding).


Post Posted: June 7th 2005 10:59 am
 
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link to a working torrent - anyone?


Why do ppl use torrents? You can have it in 45 minutes off usenet (i believe it is on a.b.dvdrcore now) no problem. No worrying about seeder/leechers, no fear of the MPAA coming down on you. Am I missing something? Get Easynews or Giganews and Grabit and you're all set! ;)


Post Posted: June 7th 2005 11:26 am
 
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people are put off by the Newsgroups and IRCs, they're for the uber-geeks.


I prefer the word genius myself. Who are the "people" you refer to? Anyone who uses newsgroups will tell you it is infinitely easier (and 1000X quicker) to download from usenet than having to depend on torrents. I had Episode III in 45 minutes.

So did anyone try SVCD2DVD as I suggested in one of my previous posts?


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yea i really wanted to try svcdtodvd based on how much praise you gave it, but i'm too damn cheap... so instead i'll be playing with TMPGEnc this afternoon when i need to distract myself at work. i've already made a playable version of the movie, but i want to create one with menus and the works and none of my programs will take the raw avi's. i've already set up a great menu with some of the trailers, commercials and stills from hyperspace and other sources so now i just need to add the movie itself. or maybe i'll do a 2 disc set...


Post Posted: June 7th 2005 11:46 am
 
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Just wanted to chime in to say I finally got it.

All is right in the world.


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The conversion from .avi to .vob while maintaining a 23.97 fps is the itch I can't scratch.

41 hours to go! :cool: :heavymetal:


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The_Somnambulist wrote:
The conversion from .avi to .vob while maintaining a 23.97 fps is the itch I can't scratch.


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I'm using TMPGEnc, channels are swapped correctly, picture is tweaked, colors got boosted JUST a smidge, aspect ratio is corrected, and with Nero, I've got chapters and menus now, just for the hell of it.


TMPGEnc lets you select a 23.976fps w 3:2 Pulldown. That's what you need.


Post Posted: June 7th 2005 12:03 pm
 

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I went with a gamma boost of about 30 or so, and upped the colour saturation a little as well; been trying to colour correct to match the workprint as closely as possibe, and am testing out a little bit of edge enhancement (the video is actually a little softer than the TUN release, and some fine detail gets lost in the smudge). As far as TMPENC, I've always been a little baffled by the semi-coherently translated settings, and if anyone has had success maybe they could chime in here; If you kept the video at 23.97fps, what were the settings you used? 3:2 in playback? 3:2 in advanced options? There's a number of options that can affect the pulldown, and I'm a little lost.


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On the same dialogue box that allows you to select the video and audio file, choose the "Film Movie" option from one of the drop-down menus. I'm assuming this keeps the fps at 23.97 while the alternate, "Video Movie," option changes it to 29.97.

The 3:2 pull-down option is default and can be toggled in the "Other Settings" dialogue box when you click "Next."


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Thanks for the info, curious to hear how your final burnt DVD came out.
Assuming you are using Toast to convert the .mov file?


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i just tried converting a couple minutes of the movie with TMPENC as a test, and came up with no audio. it gave me a stretched picture and a 33MB silent sound file. any thoughts on the audio? also, if i'm keeping it 23.97 - i don't need the pulldown - correct?


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dianoga, read my post earlier. TMPGENC doesn't like AC3, grab the trail of goldwave, swap channels and save the audio as something else.


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oh crap, thanks Inv8r_ZIM i just saw that.

edit: so can virtual dub just handle the whole thing then? sorry i'm being such a pain, i'm just trying to figure this out with less steps...


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i just tried converting a couple minutes of the movie with TMPENC as a test, and came up with no audio. it gave me a stretched picture and a 33MB silent sound file. any thoughts on the audio? also, if i'm keeping it 23.97 - i don't need the pulldown - correct?


It's possible to split up the audio/video (demux) then reassemble them (remux) together after video conversion using a program called IFOEdit.



Here's a link to a helpful tutorial I recently discovered:

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/convert_avi_to_dvd.cfm


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I wish the bootleg hadn't come out until after it was done in the theaters. Partially b/c this movie is too good and took far too much effort to make to not see it in its proper venue, even if you have a big screen tv. And also b/c my computers pretty fucked up right now and can't dl it.


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thanks The_Somnambulist i'll check out that tuturial, it looks good. there's been some great solutions between all of us here! so from what i've read in this thread so far, there haven't been that many programs that can directly take the avi's, create menus, special features etc? svcd2dvd has been recommended, i might just buy the damn thing. i'm definitely learning a lot with all these different conversion programs, but i just want to take the files as is, and create a full dvd with them.


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MannyOrtez wrote:
I wish the bootleg hadn't come out until after it was done in the theaters. Partially b/c this movie is too good and took far too much effort to make to not see it in its proper venue, even if you have a big screen tv. And also b/c my computers pretty fucked up right now and can't dl it.


the screen is easily brightened in vlc media player

and I'm sure any modern day tv has a brightness function as well, but I do agree. I will still get the dvd in november, not a fucking doubt I'll miss that


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dianoga wrote:
thanks The_Somnambulist i'll check out that tuturial, it looks good. there's been some great solutions between all of us here! so from what i've read in this thread so far, there haven't been that many programs that can directly take the avi's, create menus, special features etc? svcd2dvd has been recommended, i might just buy the damn thing. i'm definitely learning a lot with all these different conversion programs, but i just want to take the files as is, and create a full dvd with them.


I am telling you, SVCD2DVD will do exactly what you need WITHOUT all the headaches. I mean if you willing to shell out the $18 registration (for life) you can forget about using overly complicated programs like VirtualDub and TMPGE. They are great FREE programs.

SVCD2DVD will do exactly what you suggest above. It is LITERALLY drag, drop, create the menu, and BURN!

Check this out --> http://www.svcd2dvd.com/Guides/GettingS ... VCD2DVDv2/

After I got the 2 avi's I just dragged them into SCVD2DVD and created a quick menu. Then burned the DVD. The DVD conversion process took about 1 hour and 45 minutes and it was done! It has Nero integration built in so it burns it all at once!


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In the scene on Coruscant where Anakin and Obi-Wan say goodbye to eachother i've got some grey pixelfaults ... did anyone else noticed this?


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PerfectCr, i did as you suggested. well, i got the trial version to test out svcd2dvd first and it did everything you said. thanks! i'm not going to bother registering and getting the full version until i get home from work tonight, unless i can install their programs in multiple locations? again, thanks, this did exactly what i wanted and more! :heavymetal:


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dianoga wrote:
PerfectCr, i did as you suggested. well, i got the trial version to test out svcd2dvd first and it did everything you said. thanks! i'm not going to bother registering and getting the full version until i get home from work tonight, unless i can install their programs in multiple locations? again, thanks, this did exactly what i wanted and more! :heavymetal:


Glad to hear! Remember the trial version only allows you to author a DVD up to 2GB. ;)


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I followed ThePagman's instructions and it didn't get past my windows media player. I got through half of Madine's instructions and got lost. I'll now attempt Hypnotik's instructions. With ThePagman's, I did everything exactly. I thought maybe I messed up some how by not doing advanced properties in winavi or maybe I was unclear on IfoEdit (v0.971). In Procoder, I got lost at the target vid file.


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PerfectCr wrote:
Glad to hear! Remember the trial version only allows you to author a DVD up to 2GB. ;)


i realized that about halfway through setting up the file. it's ok, it did more for me than most of the programs i've been trying for the past 3 days. the full version will be great to use when i get home


    to get a perfect working copy:

    1. join both parts using avijoiner

    2. encode the avi file using tmpgenc plus using the NTSC setting on DVD mode, NOT NTSC 16:9 as I originally did. Change the resolution to 704x576, choose Fullscreen(keep aspect ratio) and it takes about 5 hours.

    3. you'll notice when you playback the new mpeg file it has no sound, no worries. just get winavi, go to avi mode and choose the file joined together bu avi joiner. Make sure the output is set as mpeg1 then let it encode, takes about 30mins.

    4. open TMPGEnc DVD Author and create new project, add the video file .mpg that you made in tmpgenc plus, once added a screen will open showing the source for the audio and the video. change the audio source to the mpeg file you created using winavi. click ok, add menus, backgrounds, whatever. Allow the program to export it into vob files.

    5. then open nero, burn dvd video, drag and drop the video_ts and audio_ts folders tmpgenc dvd author made and burn baby!


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Dang, looks like I got in on this too late. No seeds for the torrents and a bunch of incomplete files in the newsgroups. :whateva:


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Dang, looks like I got in on this too late. No seeds for the torrents and a bunch of incomplete files in the newsgroups. :whateva:


There are only incomplete files if you have crappy news provider like your ISP. If you use a decent provider like Easynews or Giganews you will get 45-60 days of FULL retention on binary groups.


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Hi all, just got to say thanks to faid and everyone else who put up helpers and shit. Just thought I'd share my way of doing it as it seemed to be very little trouble. I just used Divx to DVD and selected both avi files, and set to NTSC. Took the output files and burned them. No hassel, no audio sync problems, only video problem was right when obi loses his sabre chasing grievous and it switches VOB files it hangs for half a sec. Looks great, thanks again.
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piscesfury wrote:
I followed ThePagman's instructions and it didn't get past my windows media player. I got through half of Madine's instructions and got lost. I'll now attempt Hypnotik's instructions. With ThePagman's, I did everything exactly. I thought maybe I messed up some how by not doing advanced properties in winavi or maybe I was unclear on IfoEdit (v0.971). In Procoder, I got lost at the target vid file.


im confused as to what didnt get past your wmp? the .vob files? u cant open them in wmp a lot of tims try your pc dvd player or VLC player as previously mentioned


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When pruning monster threads such as this, sometimes innocent posts are pruned. :schoolyou:

If you notice in the latest split/trashed thread there guests, so some accounts were pruned as well. :chainsaw:

You know what we need? Screenshots!

update: now in it's new dedicated thread:

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5154

Also if anyone can handle the stress we need two new threads:

• DVDrip videos
• DVDrip Animated Gifs.

Please do not start these threads unless you are going to fill some of the requests.


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I followed these steps exactly and when I finished burning the DVD and tried playing it, it didn't work. I get a message in both of my home theatre units stating.

Restricted due to area limitations.

When using divxtodvd....do you leave both settings on automatic, or did you specify NTSC and 16:9?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


    to get a perfect working copy:

    1. join both parts using avijoiner

    2. encode the avi file using tmpgenc plus using the NTSC setting on DVD mode, NOT NTSC 16:9 as I originally did. Change the resolution to 704x576, choose Fullscreen(keep aspect ratio) and it takes about 5 hours.

    3. you'll notice when you playback the new mpeg file it has no sound, no worries. just get winavi, go to avi mode and choose the file joined together bu avi joiner. Make sure the output is set as mpeg1 then let it encode, takes about 30mins.

    4. open TMPGEnc DVD Author and create new project, add the video file .mpg that you made in tmpgenc plus, once added a screen will open showing the source for the audio and the video. change the audio source to the mpeg file you created using winavi. click ok, add menus, backgrounds, whatever. Allow the program to export it into vob files.

    5. then open nero, burn dvd video, drag and drop the video_ts and audio_ts folders tmpgenc dvd author made and burn baby!


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This Blows! I tried Hipno's suggestion but I keep getting an error when creating the New Ifo's. Something about Time Splits or something. (I'm new to this whole thing. can ya tell?) Anyone else get this kind of error? Also what Burn software do you recomend. I'm using Nero but I'm not a big fan :?


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After a successful transfer using NeroVision Express I went back and did it Hipnotik's way. I was suprised.... but the quality was actually a little better than Nero. Took a little more time, but it was still easy. The true test will be on the 34" lcd when I get home tonight. Hell, I'm even curious as to how well it will hold up to the 65" project I've got in my basement.

Now it's time to mess with the sound....

By the way, thanks Hipnotik.


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Ditto. These instructions worked perfectly for me and the burned DVD looked freaking awesome on my HDTV. I only noticed a missing pixel or two (Anakin and Obi Wan speaking in the hall of the Jedi Temple), and a transition glitch when Obi loses his saber, but other than that, it was perfect.

Now I have a DVD to tide me over until the November DVD release.

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When I converted the movie using XvidToDvd, the movie kept freezing for half a second or so every 3 or 4 seconds. and without checking I burned it. wasted a dvd-r. i tried converting it again and got the same problem. then I used WinAvi, that's what its called right? :mrgreen: and I had a perfect copy. no headaches with winavi. :heavymetal:


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