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OK, one of the continuity ones...

Luminara Unduli is definitely on Kashyyk at the beginning of the sequence.
However, she's not in the purge sequence.
It seems very un-Yoda-like for him to not try to help her or find out what happened to her.
So, is she dead, or did she somehow escape so she can be part of the TV series?


You can't really call that a continuity error though. Sure she is there on Kashyyk but that doesn't mean she definately has to have a death scene.


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Well, Luminara's death was in the script so they either cut it or didn't film it like Quinlan Vos's death.


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Quinlan got fucked up the worst in the comic.


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Don't you see that thing blow up in the Ki-Adi Mundi scene?


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Why exactly does Vos have such a big fanbase? The only time he's even remotely seen in the films is just a random shot in TPM introducing Sebulba, and even then he's just a background character not known as Quinlan Vos.


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I won't deny that he looks cool, cause he does - especially in that show from the comic somebody just posted. Probably just have to read some of the comics featuring him I suppose.


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The General's voice sounded much better LIVE during Matt Wood's demo in his program at C3 (It had that mechanized sound I find to be missing in the film - even Digitally)

Besides keeping the Generals cough in the film (continuity with the 'Clone Wars cartoons) it says in Rinzler's 'Making of' that it also came to be because of a bad cold that Lucas had during Principal Photography/Post-Production

The Tusken Raider sound-edit out of 'ANH' is f**kin' sweet (Nice placement)

Before Anakin enters to slaughter the banking clan there are several little 'Mouse' droids that scurry into the room - This was a change from it's original form (I guess) At the 4:33 point of the 60 minute special a while back that same sequence shown has 1 large 'Mouse' droid like the one Chewie roars at in 'ANH' scurry into the room

Did anyone feel that the various forms of clone ARC-troops (specifically camoflaged Biker Scouts) looked far too Video-Gamish - Didn't really care for that look - How much more would it have costed to create 2 or three suits of armor (Heck ... GWL could have even called up the 501st?)

... On second thought - I bet it was done on purpose (The Ol' Flannelled one's Marketing smarts) as a Tie-In to the 'Republic Commando' Video Game


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Has this ever been done before? Officially release a list
of easter eggs while the movie is still in theator, sounds
like a ploy if I ever heard one :mad:


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How much more would it have costed to create 2 or three suits of armor

It´s not about the suits, it´s about integrating them with a digital surrounding. Takes more resources the more real objects you have mixing with digital objects.


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Cool movie - I only have a couple of minor gripes about its execution.

I still haven't figured out where Anakin loses his lightsaber when they are brawling on the table. I think they just cut that part of the duel to pieces because there seems to be quite a few inconsistencies there.

Although I was happy with the Padme dies with a broken heart story, I hated the way the robot delivered the news. I felt like Lucas was telling me "Well she's dieing but I don't know why."

Also, although it all works out in the time line, I thought Yoda and Obi Wan referring to Palpatine as the emperor after watching the security video was jumping the gun a bit. The viewer saw the scenes at the senate but Yoda and Obi weren't there.


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Takes more resources the more real objects you have mixing with digital objects.


That would be a consideration on a lower budget movie. Any financial caps were totally self-imposed. The film was guaranteed to make its money back so, if there was a better way of doing things, I wouldn't see lack of resources as a reason not to.


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Capt. Sith Park wrote:
Did anyone feel that the various forms of clone ARC-troops (specifically camoflaged Biker Scouts) looked far too Video-Gamish - Didn't really care for that look - How much more would it have costed to create 2 or three suits of armor (Heck ... GWL could have even called up the 501st?)


According to the official site, there are no ARC troopers in ROTS...they may look like it, but they're just regular clone commanders.

Additionally, I believe that the book does mention the 501st by name...it's the legion that accompanies Anakin into the Jedi temple for the slaughter.


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In the scene on the bridge right before Grievous breaks the window, Anakin ignites his saber, and the activation sound is Luke's ROTJ saber sound. I noticed this the first time I saw the movie, I have no idea why they did this, it totally doesn’t make sense. Dooku's saber makes this sound once in EpII but I just figured that was the nature of his saber. But Anakin's saber? It doesn’t make that sound ever again.

In the Jedi Temple when mace is talking with the Jedi holograms about removing the chancellor from office if he doesn’t give up his powers, Mace is wearing a saber that appears to be all silver, it doesn’t look like his AOTC hilt, more like his TPM saber. I'm not quite sure about this one though, I need to see the movie again.


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I was looking forward to the Mon Mothma scene also. I saw enough of Bai in Playboy so that was good enough for me.


I was also looking forward to seeing her, or at least something being mentioned about the beginning of the rebellion. I know it was basically implied, but I just think Mon Mothma having a scene at the end of each trilogy would have been cool. Especially for all those people who don't follow the movies as close as we do...


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could someone please post a pic of grievous so you can clearly see the qui gon obi wan anakin and palps sabers?


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Did anyone notice when the ship boarded the Tantive that the sound effect of the bay doors closing was the same as the sound heard in ANH just before the Stomtroopers blast their way onto the Tantive IV.

A Nice touch.


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In the Jedi Temple when mace is talking with the Jedi holograms about removing the chancellor from office if he doesn’t give up his powers, Mace is wearing a saber that appears to be all silver, it doesn’t look like his AOTC hilt, more like his TPM saber. I'm not quite sure about this one though, I need to see the movie again.


I don't think so. I had caught this detail during my first viewing of the movie, but the more I watch it, whether on big screen or on my comp, the more I think it's the right one. Actually, the problem is the black grips are almost invisible because of the obscurity in the room and the holograms enlightening the silver parts of the hilt. But you can perfectly compare the rest of the hilt (shape, size, proportions, golden parts) and you'll see this is exactly the same saber he uses in the rest of the movie.
Actually last time I saw it on big screen I could even notice the black grips.


Besides, were you Sam Jackson, the one who is so attached to his customized purple saber, wouldn't you notice you're not carrying the right one dring a scene ? And the original couldn't have got lost, they have more than one saber for each character. And if a different saber was indeed used to replace the right one which may have got lost, don't you think any decent filmmaker would have positioned the actor, or hide the saber with the cloak, or angled the cam differently, so that the mistake is invisible ?



Another "error", although it's voluntary : During the Mace / Palps lightsaber fight, some shots are from the first version of the duel, and Palpatine is fighting with Anakin's saber, on which a red blade has been added instead of the blue one.


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Anakin was to be there when the Jedi arrive to arrest Palpatine, and the latter was to use Anakin's saber to fight them.

I think there's a pic in the making of or some other book which shows Anakin and Palpatine standing on each other's side, facing the camera, while Mace and the posse are entering the room in the background.


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He did have one of his own, but he only used it against Yoda at first ... Oh well I don't know actually, perhaps he first used his own to face the Jedi, then lose it, then was using Anakin's, I don't know the first version of the script.

All I know is that Palpatine did use Anakin's saber, and that the actual version of the movie includes some shots from this version, in which only the blue blade has been altered to be a red blade.


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He is right. Palpatine is using Anakin's saber for part of the Mace duel.


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Looks like Anakin's saber to me. Wacky. I'd love to see the original duel in it's entirety.


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Odd. I guess that explains why the Palpatine action figure is holding a light saber that looks like Anakin's. Though I just thought it was a mistake on the part of the toymaker. They must have based the mold on the earlier version. I still can't figure out why some the Episode III Obi-Wans have his Episode II lightsaber. Maybe I'm just thinking about it too much...


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Yeah, all the pics of the Mace/Palps duel from the Making of book clearly show him holding Anakin's saber hilt. I don't think the fight itself choreography wise was any different from the finished film. The only difference it seems was that Anakin was already present when the posse arrived and Palpatine used Anakin's saber. There is one note in the Making of book which is a little confusing, VFX NOTES; Sc.99-Anakin's lightsaber goes flying, chair is zapped out of the way, lightsaber flies into Anakin's hand, lightsaber flies into Palpatine's hand.

The Making of book also states that the only thing changed and added to for the fight was the ending where Palpatine was cornered.


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In that scene when Palpatine is blasting Mace with lightning and Anakin turns around to shield his eyes, he is holding his lightsaber, as hw would have gotten it back at that point as it was originally scripted.


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I'm impressed that in the half a second the hilts are seen at a time, you can actually tell whose saber is whose. They all look the same to me.


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This resampled pic I posted earlier (600% resample of an OS pic that supposedly has Mon Mothma in it) I believe doesn't have Mon Mothma in it at all. The head that I labeled Mon Mothma is Anakin I think, after he's chatted with Obi-Wan.

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They lied to us! I don't think Mon Mothma is in the movie at all. :|

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Here's a potential, but unconfirmed cameo: A friend of mine waited through the credits and claims he saw Jabba the Hutt credited. Has anyone spotted him in the movie? I didn't, but I've only seen the film once.


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The credit is for 'Javva the Hut' (this credit is seen in other Star Wars movies too, I remember seeing it). I assume he's either a Java programmer at ILM or he makes coffee.


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it's the coffee stand outside Skywalker Ranch I believe.


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CoGro wrote:
it's the coffee stand outside Skywalker Ranch I believe.
That is correct. ;)


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They lied to us! I don't think Mon Mothma is in the movie at all. :|


I think she is. Watch closely the next shot after Mace says "We will make finding Grievous our highest prority" to Palpatine.

The chick in the white dress.

Not much but better then nothing.


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I know this isn't an easter egg or an error, but I just wanted to point out that Palpatine makes an incredibly dumb face during the duel.


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I think she is. Watch closely the next shot after Mace says "We will make finding Grievous our highest prority" to Palpatine.


And she is also seen from a distance on the large shot showing the row of senators waiting for Palpatine when he walks towards them. She's on the right, in white dress.


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I'm impressed that in the half a second the hilts are seen at a time, you can actually tell whose saber is whose. They all look the same to me.


It was that one shot that lord bacon posted where Palps has it right in front of the camera that gave that away for me. We'd seen Sidious' saber before, and it looked nothing like it.


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I'd say that Micheal Smith (Javva the Hutt) would be the Ranch Coffee Guy

Some of Palpatine's fight expression/movements are downright goofy - nothin' against McDiarmid at all (He can deliver a line like no one!) but some of his fight moves could use some extra help from Gillard

It'd be interesting to hear Ray Park's take on Ian's sequences


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but some of his fight moves could use some extra help from Gillard


His method is to impale. I think that's intentional.


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Yes, the fighting style was intentional. Making stabbing moves is Sidious´ way of fighting. :heavymetal:


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Just a couple observations:

Palpatine's fighting style during his duel with mace and his style during his duel with Yoda are almost completely different...I'm assuming it was just because of the nature of his opponents? I wonder why he didn't start force throwing shit around at Mace...obviously he is pretty adept at it. Maybe he was out of practice (or it was because of the limited space).

Palpatine also certainly seemed to telegraph his moves a bit, especially the stabbing and thrusting. The thrust at Mace in front of the window (from which I took the screen cap of Palp's goofy face above) is a shining example. I could just see Mace in my mind watching him getting ready to do that move going "um..ok.." before blocking it with relative ease. I thought the Mace duel was pretty good but Palpatine's style could have been much more polished and convincing.


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My guess is that channeling the Dark Side would reveal his true form and remove the shroud hiding Sidious - something he wasn't ready to do when he first fights Mace. Once he lets rip with the Force Lightning, that's when he changes. When he fights Yoda, he has 'come out' so to speak so anything goes.


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Isn't he holding back in that duel, playing the part to help turn Anakin. He offs three jedi like nothing, then dilly-dallies with Mace for a few minutes. He loses his light-saber RIGHT before Anakin shows up to look weak and helpless lying on the ground and being attacked by Mace. There's no way that is just a coincidence.

You can see Palps eyes watching Anakin during the subsequent conversation, then, as soon as he knows he has Anakin hooked on his side, bam, no more fucking around, Mace is friend and out the window. That's when the ploy is over and it doesn't matter anymore. His years and years have payed off and he's free to do as he will, force lightning, giddy evil excitement, and everything else he's held back patiently for so long.


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it's his first fight in years, he needed to warm up a bit.


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I wonder what Palpatine would have done had Anakin not stopped Mace from slashing at him...he must have been pretty damn confident that Anakin would turn, otherwise he would have been up against 2 very powerful Jedi, sans lightsaber.


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His overconfidence is his weakness.


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I saw ROTS again for the fifth time last night a nd I noticed something I hadn't seen before: The Republic (Jedi) symbol on the Jedi Starfighters (Anakin's at least) is actually the symbol of the Empire. In a couple of the buzz droid shots, you can see the emblem very clearly, up close. The symbol clearly has six spires extending from the center, instead of the eight spires seen, for example, on the Republic LAAT/i Gunships. I noticed its also on the toys and models. Don't know if this has been spotted yet or not, but I thought it was interesting.


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It was on Obi-Wan's Jedi starfighter in AOTC if I'm not mistaken. So it's actually been spotted a long time ago.


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Anyone notice the Tarzan yell from the Wookiee that jumps onto the droid wheel thing on Kashyyyk?


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I didn't want to do it, but the question was like if someone asked, did you see that Anakin turned to darth vadar, it's been discussed...


Ok that sentence was a complete train wreck insofar as it can be considered a real sentence...or was it a question? I am so confused.

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Anyone else notice something very strange concerning Grievous' cruiser? When it tips towards the planet, everything in the ship falls towards the front. Why would this happen. They're in space. Either the artificial gravity is working and pulls them towards the floor, or it fails to work, and they float around in zero gravity. But for some reason, they fell as the ship tipped over.


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Is this a mistake or was I just paying not enough attention:

You'll all remember the scene where Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda discuss about the prophecy in that transporter (Obi-Wan: "Is he not the chosen one?") In that scene they are still on Coruscant.
The next shot shows the transporter landing in a hangar or something like that. That seems to be on Kashyyyk since you see a Wookiee walking around and Juggernauts' standing in the hangar.
So for the audience it seems as if this is ONE flight transporting Obi, Mace and Yoda. Isn't supposed to be a SECOND flight with only Yoda being transported to Kashyyyk??

Is this just an editing mistake or what is this? Maybe I am wrong...


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When it tips towards the planet, everything in the ship falls towards the front. Why would this happen. They're in space.


The planet has gravity ya know. Also they are in the upper atmosphere, that's why there are fires.


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Naw... the wookie came to Coruscant. I love that scene. To me, that is very Star Wars to be in a hanger loading up and all.


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Anyone else notice something very strange concerning Grievous' cruiser? When it tips towards the planet, everything in the ship falls towards the front. Why would this happen. They're in space. Either the artificial gravity is working and pulls them towards the floor, or it fails to work, and they float around in zero gravity. But for some reason, they fell as the ship tipped over.


Or they're so close to the planet its that gravity that's pulling them.


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Nick Gillard said at C3 that Sidious was really supposed to be the best of the swordfighters. He said the intention at the beginning of the duel was to give him a very, and this is the word he used, "cheesy" style so that the Jedi would underestimate him. I'm not sure how well that comes through, or how much was kind of lost via the various versions of the scene before the final one, but it was interesting to hear him say that Palpatine was meant to be totally lethal.


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