With all of this unlawful achievements going on here, just be thankful you have the work print duplicate and stop bitching about proportion and time codes. It's like a burglar who has stolen a DVD player and then bitches that the remote doesn’t work. You have stolen goods that belong to a studio that worked very hard for 3 and a half years and for it to be pan-handled to the very core it was designed for is just bizarre?

I know you guys worship it, but this much? This is illegal? What if somebody broke into your dwelling and stole your XBOX? Or your un-opened figurines? When you watch it again at home just bear in mind one thing, this is why you are unemployed and will always have your bedroom 8 feet from your moms! If you are going to endanger your personal freedom and revenue on this hobby, why not go to college or get an occupation? Oh that’s right, you want something for nothing! This is proof positive of that!

Keep in mind, what goes around… :mad:

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you sir are a twat,

its not like where are going to download it and not go to the theater and buy the dvd when it comes out.

someone coming into your house and stealing your xbox is a shitty comparison, more like someone going and buying YOUR xbox, except they dont take it, they just make themselfs a copy so they can play it whenever they want.

and who the fuck is unemployed and living at home?

fucking dork

and btw if i stole a dvd player and the remote didn't work i'd be pissed.

If it wasn't for the obsession that we have for works of art like this, then you Post Production guys would be out of work.

And as to this downloading hurting the industry. Let see, ROTS will make about 150-200 MILLION this weekend, possibly..and the downloading that some of the users are doing in here cost, what, maybe $1,000 - 3,000 in possible movie tickets...That's not counting the 8 times each of them have already seen it.

But I digress....

Yes it's illegal, but so are some of the methods the movie studios use to catch people to do stuff like this.

Downloading movies is the wave of the future and the longer it takes the Movie Studios to regulate and sell the movies for online transfer, the more it will cost them.

You know, I've bootlegged every one of the prequels. And you know what happened then? I bought the official DVD, every time. And you know how many times I saw it before I bootlegged? Hell, five times or so! How many average people see a movie more than once? If you want to add up the money I've handed over to the Lucas empire since 1977, I'm sure it would add up to tens of thousands of dollars. I spent two hundred dollars on April 2 alone! Trust me, that empire isn't going to be in the red on my account.

[quote=]I will make Hollywood a deal. Stop making shitty movies and I will stop downloading.

I know this is a pretty safe bet on my part.[/quote]

i made the same bet to the music industry 4 years ago, theres no way you can lose.

You, sir, would make a pathetic prosecuting attorney (in regards to intellectual properties) -- Copyright infringement does NOT equal theft. If I steal your TV, you don't have a TV anymore. I denied you your television. If I download Episode 3, Lucas still has his movie. I didn't steal a damn thing. I didn't deny him anything either, except maybe his pride and ego.

Sure, the MPAA will view this as distributing copywritten material. What they don't want you to know is, that there's no "copyright" or "fbi" disclamer/warning at the beginning of said workprint in question. Try that one if a court of law.

In order to prove infringement, you must first prove that something has been diminished, something has been gained, and that your copyright extends to the form in which it has been distributed. Again, you're just grabbing at straws if you think you can actually make a living going after filesharers.

Am I breaking the copyright law by watching this inferior copy of Sith, questionably maybe, but it is not stealing -- it's the equivalent of catching a foul ball at a major league ball game. You may say I'm playing semantics, but there is an important distinction. I'm not even trying to justify copyright violation, I'm just tired of idiots equating it to theft.

There is nothing in the DMCA regarding filesharing and you know it. There is nothing in the United States Copyright code concerning filesharing and you also know that. Piracy is not equal to filesharing. Piracy is the act of reproducing works for gain. No one has issue with that.

What the MPAA has done is to confuse the argument regarding copyright. Copyright was initially established to protect the author of a given work for an infinite period of time, so profit could be realized before the work passed into the public domain. Today, the original author of the work RARELY sees any compensation returned to them once a work has been completed. Copyright is now a corporate asset. And the sum total of the MPAA's argument stems from persons infringing on thier CORPORATE ASSETS. This has nothing to do with protecting authors, it has everything to do with monopolizing the distribution of corporate assets. If not, then why has copyright been extended past the original 'lifetime of the author + 20 years" and into infinity? Because it is no longer a creative work, it is a currency

Assertion + evidence = truth.

You have:

Assertion + nothing = opinion

Thanks for playing, I win.

Brilliant.

yeah, what he said.

Reading that made me feel smarter than I probably am.