The Anakin/Obi-Wan duel is probably longer than the Dooku, Mace/Palps, and Obi/Grievous duels put together. The Yoda/Sidious duel is longer, but not as long as the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel.

I think the lighsaber fights will never be long enough but i rather go for quality then quantity...

I wont see ROTS until Friday cause we have the E3 show here in LA (video game convention) and i got a buttload of meetings to attend...

I don't think anyone can honestly review episode 3 after just one showing - there's just so much going on and not enough time for it to sink in. I was lucky enough to attend a press screening on Friday - but i'm seeing it again midnight wednesday. Another showing will actually allow me to get a feel for the film.

You got buttraped in your own thread, and now you are looking for some for action here?

Grrr so the midnight showings are technically on Thursday morning at 12:01 am right? My ticket says Wednesday at midnight and I am just plain confused.

Does Tarkin do anything at the end of the film? Is he even introduced? Or does he just stand there in a wide shot so you can only tell it's him if you've seen A New Hope? Cheers.

He's only in a wide shot, and he walks away from the emperor as Vader walks up to the emporer from the other side, then you see the shot of the two of them together as seen in the trailers.

Thanks.

could anybody tell me how many jedi (names would be good) are killed by the clones after palpatine gives them the order.

I saw it again last night - it's better the second time around because you're not so "wowed" by the whole thing, and get to take in a little more.

If my first impressions were mixed, I guess I'm more sitting on the "love it" side of the fence now, than the "hate it" side.

It was bloody good fun last night. Really good - a better seat in the cinema and all too. It was a great flick.

If that counts for much, there it is.

Hmm Biggs, if i recall your initial review you were quite more positive...there was never a word of 'mixed' feelings...

Do we see Anakin kill any jedi at all in the film ?

Well, I felt mixed after the first viewing...it may not have come across in the review, but I was certainly.....undecided at that point.

Not anymore!! Heh.

Can someone tell me if the chroma key stuff looks as shitty as it does in some of the footage released so far? Do you think it would've been better to use more physical sets?

Ya know, spoilers are funny. I don't find that knowing so much about a movie prior to seeing has ever ruined it for me. I mean, come on, it's STAR WARS we're talking about. Plus, the lights go out, I become totally lost in the movie...regardless of what facts and tidbits I already know about. Can't wait until tomorrow night.

too bad the button they have to delete accounts cant be use to randomly make stupid posters heads explode

Heehee...good one! The problem might be that it would get extremely messy around here!

my only question is this

at the scene in the end with vader, palps and trakin on the SD bridge....what does the "death star" look like?...like how far under construction is it?

this is the only thing i've wondered about

I'm also going again tonight at midnight, this time with the kids.

I too, loved the movie, and have very few nitpicks to say...

What "nooooooo" reference are you referring to? I may be missing it as well.

Just got back from the theatre. Before I go to bed...

It's a good movie. Definitely the best of the prequels.

I thought the love scenes were handled well... the dream scenes I'm not sure about.

The "Nooo" is fine with me actually.

To be honest, the opening space battle was kinda dissapointing. Don't get me wrong... it is spectacular, but I felt it could have been more. In fact, that's my feeling on this whole movie.

Kashyyyk's screentime and the wookie's didn't bother me like I thought they would. It was done well.

Grievous needed at least some backstory in the film... I don't think he was handled very well.

That youngling really annoyed me for some reason.

The R2 comedy is actually quite funny.

Ian owns.

Hayden and Natalie don't suck.

Sam does.

The CG actually isn't all that intrusive.

Overall this is a good film... but still not all it could have been, or should have been. Parts were much better than I expected. Other parts were worse. I'm going to see it again (tomorrow if I can) before I make my final judgement though.

I'm waiting to see what changes are in the final digital print.

*crosses fingers for Qui-Gon scene/Degobah scene*

Okay - just got back from the midnight screening.

Sorry guys, but this is my least favourite of ALL SW movies - even the politics was boring. It started out promising with the space battle but it dragged on with stuff already established in nearly every other PT episode. I think the plot and story of the PT is a mess.

It was horrid. I really think TPM was better than this one....

Natalie actually acted in this one, but her character was dumbed down to that of a teenage school girl - the hair brushing scene is tragic. Vader screaming 'no' is also one of the big cringe moments.

Kashyyyk was a waste of time as well as a lot of scenes between Padme and Anakin.

I had majoor troubles actually buying into the story and it contradicted itself in the end so it wasn't believable. I simply couldn't buy Anakin's fall to the Dark Side or his reasoning after that... it just didn't match up. It was a matter that the plot had huge holes in it. Give me a great story, great action and a great plot before I get excited.


Ternian, does it at least bridge the prequels to the Original Trilogy for you?

For sure. But at the same time, you felt that was it all it was for...

Definitely, with just hours to go it's so nice to hear some disappointment. I think he checked my enthusiasm just enough so I don't expect some sort of euphoric high from this movie. I think so many people are expecting the fucking second coming of Christ that their bound to be disappointed, even if it's just slightly.

"Set your expections low and you'll never be disappointed."

Those are words to live by.

Wow, I can't conceive in what universe someone would think TPM is better than ROTS, but... to each their own. I'm dying to see it again tonight.

See you tonight!

Ternian hands RotS its ass. The irony...

I personally can't conceive of a film worse than TPM, so I'm going to chalk that statement up to RotS being in the unfortunate position of either carrying the justification for the entire PT or dropping it. Even if both TPM and RotS have horrid plot problems, there's no way the acting and production value didn't get a bump in this latest film.

Although I'll pull no punches in my "unload" posting, I really do hope I don't come out of the theater as disappointed as Ternian.

Of course... I did for the first two.

While we're on the topic, from now on refer to me as The CoGro.

The best SW movie of them all. Finally Lucas pulled it off.

All acting was great as far as I am concerned, Padme as well.

And surprisingly, the comedy in the movie was well placed and worth seeing. R2-D2 is the best! LOL

I was at the same midnight showing for REVENGE OF THE SITH as Ternian last night. FOX Studios put on a great evening and all was orderly and there was definately an Imperial theme running through the place.

I do find Tern's comments strange to say the very least but each to his own and T has always reacted in truth no matter how bizarre and messed up some of his "views" are/were.

As a side note I didn't read the script/novel and really only knew the basic plotline + what was in the trailers.

I realised almost immediately that this movie is what every SW fan wants to see. It fucking blew my mind from the moment Anakin and Obi-Wan's starfighters zipped past screen in what can only be described as the greatest space battle not only in a SW movie but any movie before it.

The way I see it if you come out of this movie expecting more then I'm not really sure what Lucas could have done. He has packed this movie with every sheep wetdream, apart from Qui-Gon and Boba Fett making an appearance, I just felt so satisfied walking out of that theatre at 3am this morning. My initial reaction was it is the best SW film to date leaving ESB in it's wake, and I find it troubling that I'm admitting that....I'm seeing it again in 2 hours but for now my reaction stands - this is the greatest SW film I have seen. I too was skeptical of all the positive reviews popping up all over the Internet, but I can confidently sit here right now and agree with every single last fucking one of them.

Look, I hope you guys enjoy the last Star Wars movie ever, and I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. There's not really much more I can say. Within hours everyone here will have seen it and, hopefully, posted their reviews, which, I can confidently say will be as gushing as mine. .....yes, incredibly arrogant of me, but would you expect anything less...?

MTFBWY......always,
SI

ok, here's my initial reaction:

it was a good, tight film overall, much better than i expected (and to think i came into the theater being 99% spoiled). it is definitely the best of the PTs, now how it will stack up against the OTs that needs a few more screening to tell for certain.

pacing for the film was better, and so was the acting. Ian McDiarmid really shined in this film, and in many respects, i would've wished seeing Palpatine more before he reverts into the archetypical bad guy Sidious, which he still does a good job on (brings good mememories of ROTJ) but looks mediocre next to his Chancellor Palpatine work.

McGregor seems to be invoking Sir Alec Guiness in this film, there were so many scenes where he looks so much like him its scary. performance-wise he was just as good if not even better than his work in AOTC. and thumbs-up on his lightsaber sequences. he may be whining a lot about how much fight moves he has to do or his perenial issues with bluescreen work, but it doesnt show. he still puts out exemplary work despite it all. good job!

in this film we see why Christensen won the role of Anakin Skywalker amongst thousands of hopefuls. i know this guy can act, and for the most part he does his best with what he was given in AOTC, but its the brooding, conflicted and later explosively angry Anakin which he does his best work on. alas there are some cringeworthy momments, specially the romantic scene with Padme by the balcony. it wasnt because it wasnt convinving like that painful momment in AOTC, its just that now it was "too convincing", too cheesy, too icky sweet, and again, embarassing, IMO. however, lightsaber sequences are another matter altogether. Chrsitensen deserves props for his lightsaber skills. this guy takes the adage "powerful and deadly" to a whole new level.

about Portman, like the others, she did better than AOTC, but alas she just cant get her groove with these films. however there are quiet momments with Anakin in ROTS that they are truly convincing, specially that part where the secret lovers meet again after a long time, that was truly heartfelt. i am glad to say that one of the best lines of the film-- heck of thet entire saga-- was delivered by this brown-eyed beauty "This is how liberty dies.... with thunderous applause".


as with all films its not perfect, some bad editing, such as having an actor deliver his lines and not cutting to the next scene/person right away, instead leaving him hanging for 2 or 3 seconds, which would either lessen the impact of his delivery or over emphasize a bad acting job.

the birth of Vader wasnt that bad as many made it appear to be, it made sense, for Vader to look awkward in his first few steps. although the destruction of the room wasnt as awesome as i thought it should've been, maybe that's because we were spoiled by too much fancy CG.

so far that's what i can say coming from my first viewing. i would've liked to expound more but it would be best that i see this at least one more time before giving a full review. after all i gave AOTC and TPM 2 viewings a piece before i disected it, this film definitely doesnt deserve anything less.

There are some fucking awesome moments in this film, don't get me wrong - and for many fans there will be some great moments. It is entertaining...more some of it.

I put Grevious' four-arm battle before the Anakin Vs. Obi in coolness - the crowd in my cinema went ballsitic and I LOVED it.

The space battle was awesome.

Ian ruled as Palpatine...

As for Natalie, she actually acted in this one and I think she finally got the role. However, Padme's character is dumbed down. There is a scene brushing her hair on the balcony, and she is like a 12yr old school girl talking about love....

chicks love brushing their hair!

Well fuck me, it's brilliant.

Just came home after the norwegian premiere.And it was awsome..i loved every part of it....gonna see it tomorow again....

I enjoy reading these intial reaction reviews from fans. Thanks for sharing.

I won't see it until 1pm tomorrow. I love Star Wars but my girlfriend (who loves it as well) had to work late tonight so it wouldn't be cool to make her go to a midnight screening when she just got home lol.

I'll post mine tomorrow sometime. I doubt I'll be able to rank it in the overall series after one viewing. Regardless I'll give it a shot but I won't really know where I'd place it in the series until I have it on DVD and enough time has passed.

I can't wait though, although it will be a bit bitter sweet watching the credits roll.

he'll still be back and forwards to his local cinema in the coming weeks getting his fair share of SITH.




It's basically the internal skeleton of the Death Star. No where near as completed as the second death star in ROTJ.....not by a long shot.

Incredible is all I have to say, its all i can manage to say.

wow

My REVENGE OF THE SITH Thoughts



I saw ‘Revenge of the Sith’ at midnight last night, and it was truly a mixed experience for me.

My opinion will definitely change upon subsequent viewings but for now, I find it truly difficult to grasp the enormity of what I’ve seen.

There were moments in ROTS that blew me away with their mesmerizing power and improvement over similar moments in the previous prequels.

However, I feel that George Lucas and company may have slightly dropped the ball when it came to the most important elements.

Here’s my breakdown:


I LOVED:

- The opening shot and subsequent space battle. The banter between Obi-Wan and Anakin was spot on, and the entire sequence on board The Invisible Hand was just so effortless and “Star-Warsey” and fun that I was giddy. I truly felt like I was going to go ga-ga for the entire film.

- Grievous; I was so worried about him, but having seen him in action, I admit I was wrong! Very cool character, great FX work, and the duel with Obi-Wan was fantastic.

- The Love scenes: again, I loved them! The meeting between Anakin and Padme was beautifully done and so much more relaxed than in AOTC. The scene in which they stare out over Coruscant is just amazing, the kind of introspective emotional moment that has been lacking recently. Aside from a few terrible transitional wipes (you’ll know the ones I mean), the middle portion of this film just wowed me, especially…

- Palpatine’s Seduction: The opera scene was amazing, great atmosphere, great dialogue, great FX work. Ian’s performance sold me so well that I just sat in the theatre going “he….hehehehe….so evil” to myself. I loved it.

- Order 66: Beautiful stuff. Nuff’ said.

- Wookiees at War: A little short, but very nostalgic!

- Ewan McGregor: Wow! He is Obi-Wan! He smiles and frowns and cries and comes to life! He is the soul of this film for me…I loved his work.

- The Immolation Scene: Holy crap! He’s BURNING! “I hate you!”…Oh my God.


I DID NOT LIKE:

- Vader’s “Nooooo!” cry was absolutely terrible. A ridiculous and unnecessary addition which completely ruined one of the most amazing moments in pop-cultural collectiveness. Why, George? Why not just have the room explode around him? WHY THE GODDAMN RETARD STUMBLING AND CRY!?

- The Mace/Sidious duel and Anakin’s Turn: I mean…I dunno. It was so Meh to me. Ian McDiarmid did his Gollum-impersonation, and the FX work on the face-change were kinda miserable, I thought. The practical Sidious make-up was weak, in my opinion. It look plastickey and bulky, and was inferior to ROTJ Emperor make-up in every way. Then, to top it off, Anakin just kinda bows and does Sidious’ bidding…I dunno. Could have been more…effective? I just don’t know. I was quite disappointed.

- The Temple Storming: When Anakin is leading the troopers up the stairway to the Temple, where was the freaking Imperial March? If there was a more perfect moment for the March in ROTS…I would have liked to see Anakin at least cut up one Jedi on-screen….I dunno, it just didn’t affect me emotionally as I anticipated…

- Use of Music: I love John William’s ROTS score. On the album. In the film, I found it lacking to an amazing extent. Battle of the Heroes barely registers…they use the Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan cue, but the choral concert rendition of BOTH gets barely anything, and it is FAR more powerful than anything else. What’s worse, the Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan track has that amazing “Clash of Lightsabers” Imperial March cue in it, and WHEN do they use it? Beneath Sidious and Yoda talking, where one can barely hear it! I mean, why!? Why not save that music for an action moment and pump it for Christ’s sake? And lastly, why oh why was the Imperial March so diluted in the final scene onboard the Star Destroyer with Vader and the Emperor? And when Vader rises from the slab…Naboo Funeral music? The use of Emperor’s theme, Imperial theme, and Battle of the Heroes in this film was very poor. “Across the Stars” got more time than BOTH. Inexcusable, to me.

- Would it have really hurt to have a scene with the voice of Qui-Gon? I mean, that last Yoda and Obi-Wan scene was a massive cop-out. It’s the last Star Wars film…take two minutes to do it properly…hmph.

- My biggest disappointment was The Duel(s). I just can’t explain why I felt nothing during either of the Duels. They were kind of exciting, but the emotion wasn’t there…it just wasn’t…Maybe I’m an unreasonable bitch, but I expected to get chills akin to those I get when watching Vader and Luke duel in ROTJ…It didn’t happen…sadly. The dialogue between Anakin and Obi-Wan was weak in my opinion, and Yoda vs. Sidious kinda felt like a scene from The Incredibles to me.

OVERALL:

I know this seems like a mega-rant. I really enjoyed the film for the most part. I was entirely enthralled. But when the first hour is SO amazing and then the film kinda loses it’s way, I feel sad.

Make no mistake, further viewings will change this opinion. Expectations are powerful little bastards.

I have pictured the final battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin in my dreams for over 12 years when I heard about it in the playground and when I read it in my Essential Guide to Star Wars Characters. I have waited so long for it. The emotional clash between best friends, the dark side and the light side. The chills. The betrayal.

Probably nothing could have satisfied me.

Hopefully things will change upon further viewings. There’s a lot to love in ROTS…but I feel there is a lot that was merely GOOD when it should have been earth-shattering.

8/10 – Because it’s Star Wars and it gets judged on its very own scale

Sorry i forgot to mention that review came from a friend of mine who wasnt able to get an mf registration...

the way I see it, Lucas can't win with the fans. Someone somewhere will always have a gripe of some sort that they'll blow entirely outta proportion for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe I'm easy to please, or I'm a "the glass is half full" type of guy, but for me ROTS won on every single level. If you go in the theatre to be entertained like nothing else to see a fitting end to the SW saga, you will come walking on air.
Much like me...

Short view: I really dont know. Enjoyable, but it could have been more than it was. Pretty typical of PT movies.

Some of it was great (such as *some* of Palpatines seduction of Anakin), some was corny as hell (hello, do we need JEJ screaming out "Noooooooooo"?). Most cgi was amazing (Space battle, the duel), some was substandard (Palpatines changing as he does the force lightning to Windu). Some of the plot was well done, (initial seduction of Anakin) some was just silly (Anakin skips from troubled to completely evil). Some things were answered adequately (how Palpy takes control of Anakin and the Senate; how the republic turns on the Jedi, how the rebellion starts), others were not (how does QuiGon come back....this whole "I'll teach you and you can practice on Tatooine was a total copout).[/i]

omfg just got back shitted my pants i can die happy now.

my new trilogy - III IV V
bad win good win bad win.

because:
1. >Ewoks
2. maximizes hand chop chop

I just came from seeing it at a midnight showing, Overal, The movie was awesome, But there was one thing that kind of bother me a little, Durring Anakin's nightmares, They showed these flashing of what they are, It's very unStar Wars like to show dream sequences since it's never been shown in any of the previous Star Wars movies.

the duel was like 50000 times more insane that i had ever thought possible, the FX are insane, the battle was insane omg i think my head is going to explode...Yoda was the coolest but i'm not sure why he gave up so easily, still seemed to me as if he had somewhat of a chance at sids..

i need to so i can get some sleep

Absolutely Amazing. That's my first impression.

I was totally blown away by this film, and even though I knew every spoiler available on the internet, there were plenty of surprises.

Right now though, I feel completely empty. Almost like my life has no meaning left. I know the answers to all the questions that have plagued me for so long. Now I have nothing left speculate on.

This is just my first reaction. The Duel had a tragic and powerful ending. I'm surpised Lucas really went all out on that. It would be very scary to watch some of that stuff if you were a young child. Not so much because of the graphic nature, but because it is happening to your hero. The fights were amazing. The speed of THE duel was incredible. When they first went at it, I actually said "wow" out loud.

There was plenty of laughter, at all the RIGHT parts, not at any dialogue nor did anyone cringe at any scene. Everyone was having a great time, cheering on Yoda and the Wookies. When Yoda walked in and "owned" the Royal Guards, the place went nuts. Surprisingly, when Vader was unveiled, no one cheered like I thought they would. I didn't think the creation of Vader was cheesy, it was just SO weird seeing Vader talk about something so personal as his wife. Very, very weird. Like I said, I walked out of the theater in a daze, people were staring at me like I was in some sort of zombie trance. I heard someone say, he must've hated it. But it was the opposite, the movie did everything it was supposed to. It destroyed the Republic, and it destroyed me in the process.

By the way, I got to the theater at 7 pm. I was about 10th in line for the line leading to the four auditoriums on the side mine was in. They had a line on the opposite side of the box office for another four auditoriums. By the time they opened the doors at 10:30, the lines touched each other on the back side of the building. I estimate there were over 2400 people at this screening tonight (8 auditoriums, over 300 seats in each, all sold out). About 25 members of the 501st Legion were on hand.

I'm sure I'll say more later. I hope everyone else had as much fun as I did tonight: in the lines, during the wait, during the last Star Wars thrill ride of our lives.

It had a few rough spots before the arrest scene. Most of the scenes on the Invisible Hand had no music at all, so it was weird. Some of the Hayden/Natalie scenes had awkward deliveries. Lucas cut lots, but no issues at all with what was there after the arrest scene.
I love it.

9/10

I liked it. It was pretty much what I thought it would be. Anakin burning was quite shocking. Best out of the prequels thats for sure.

I'm speechless, again....though with more careful examination I was able to come to one definate conclusion:

George should pay John Williams whatever the hell the guy wants to rescore episodes 2 and 3. Nothing drives me more crazy than tracking past music into a film.

OK I came back 30 minutes ago & I've had time to reflect
R2-D2 rocked
it was pure eye candy - not too much CG, not too little
my whole perception of Anakin, Palpatine & the war changed in this film
the acting (yes, there was acting) was better than my best of expectations

I was left behind on some things, maybe it's because I am in fact a dumb blonde, I have a low midichlorian count or just simply because I haven't slept in 23 hours . . .

Who REALLY ordered the clone army? - it was never spelled out to this bimbo & I'm let down because I was hoping that it would be spelled out to end the speculation once & for all!

The scene where they review the security scans at the temple . . . Yoda refers to Palpatine at the end of the scene as the Emperor - when in fact the congress was in session right AT that time where he declares himself emperor . . . I see a consistency flaw there!

& just from a woman who's given birth's point of view . . .
those babies that popped out were fuckin' HUGE - they each looked about the size of my first born who was 9 pounds! Padme was pretty tiny to be carring around 18 pounds of just baby - I know I'm nit picking here it's not like they could rustle up a 5 pound newborn on demand no matter how good tehcnology is right now!

OK now I'm so tired I'm seeing stormtroopers
Momma's going to bed!

I really can't wait for the DVD, It's most likely gonna be packed with some much deleted scenes, More then the other films had, I was expecting the scene where the senators meet up discussing what they were planning to do, But it was cut, So I assume it will be on the DVD along with the rest of the footage.