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Q: Will there be another Star Wars movie? If you say no I'm going to fuck and kill your wife and kids.

A: Yes.

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Post Posted: May 15th 2005 8:50 pm
 
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Maybe a made-for-TV movie.


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star wars spin-offs?

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Post Posted: May 15th 2005 8:58 pm
 
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I don't think he was alluding to anything. Some reporter asked him about something years in the future, and he answered it like anyone would. "Anything is possible."


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It wouldn't suprise me if they took episodes of the TV show in the future, edited them together, and used "marketing" to make you believe the next Star Wars film was coming straight to DVD. If against all odds, more movies did come one day, no one would know yet anyways. It would take either making them or the money to cause Lucas to miss it enough to make more. I'm not holding my breath. If that guy in the video was McCallum or even Sansweet I would start holding it. For this guy? No way Jose.


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"even though the films are ending..."

"as far as we know they are ending and i think George is pretty serious about it. It takes 10 years for him to make these trilogies and i dont think hes up for it again"

"never say never"

It sounds to me like he said the movies are over once, then he said it again, but the interviewer kept poking him about it until he gave an answer he wanted to hear which was basiclly "you never know"

I can't see Lucas putting another 10 years of him life into another group of films, especially when he already stated he planned to make a few non-star wars films after this. I also can't see another Star Wars film without Lucas behind it.


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*goes to get an uzi to shoot the next person that whines that they want, or that there will be another SW flick*


Chicks with weapons are hawt.

Aayla would have been cool as a lead in a SW movie.

Oh well.


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there will be more SW movies


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Ok. I'm gonna state something to this that is not very poular based on what we know, but if you search your feelings and what has taken place already, it's not that far-fetched.
Now, based on old interviews in the past, Lucas has said several things concerning the future of Star Wars, some which have been contraditory. I remember a short interview he did around 1994 or so(it was one of the sci-fi mags, i wish I could remember which one) where he said, based on the current state of the movie industry and the costs of making these films, there will be no films in the immediate future. Now, you can take that in several ways because 1) this was right before the OT trilogy re-release on VHS with THX enhanced clean up of picture and sound and 2) TPM wouldn't come out for six more years.

I think after the success of the OT re-release on VHS and then the development of the SE, George saw more potential than he could've ever imagined and simply changed his mind and went forward and made that commitment to do the PT. These releases were critical in the PT moving forward because it immediately said to George there was a mammoth audience still for Star Wars.

Now here we are in 2005 and so far, during the era of the PT, George has firmly said that the SW saga is a six part saga. But George also said in a 1979 interview with Rolling Stone that he had nine movies in mind for the story. I've also heard at certain points in interviews that George was fed up with SW and wanted to move away from his franchise and then I'd hear at certain points that he loves the world of SW and he can visit there anytime he feels like it. The TV show was actually a suprise to me because i remember in 2002 in an interview with Connie Chung, he said he didn't want SW to end up like Star Trek with too much going on and overkill.

So, what's my point in all of this? Don't take George's every word so seriously. The man is a businessman and he's gonna go where the money is, even though he will move very cautiously and with a lot of class. If ROTS does what I think it's gonna do, we may very well be in for more films down the road. Yes, George is 60 and right now he may very well be feeling old and tired after doing these last three films, but George is also a very agile and healthy 61 year old and I expect him to see at least another good twenty years on this planet. Which is plenty of time to revisit the SW universe on film again if he wishes. The man changes his mind like water moving. If the technology advances again to the point where he can do a new series of films and do them even more cheap and fast, i would bet a pretty strong penny ol George would step up to the plate one last time to do and REALLY complete his original idea of NINE films.

The reason I say this is because it seems a bit odd that the saga would end on such a downer of a film, even though we have the OT to go to. It just doesn't seem, I don't know...complete. Now, what comes into question is if this were to take place, a ST, would it include any of our OT heroes as they would be significantly older in say, ten years. They would defintely be too old to play primary action roles, but not old enough to be secondary characters or even just cameos.

I'll say this and then leave it alone, It would really be something magical and truly incredible if GL did the last three films and have appearances by our OT characters who started it all and then introduce a whole new set of characters to conclude this thing and even reveal a greater, even more powerful truth in that NINTH film to end it all and end a life's journey for the millions of fans who have followed this since 1977, all this with also a successful TV show to fall in between. Would that be something or what???

You know GL is a master gambler and is known for withholding info and not showing his hand until absolutely necessary. We shall see, but until then...as ROTS premiere drops in less than 72 hours and I must accept (for the time being) that this is the last SW film...

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US ALL!!!

Do that shit, Chewie, DO IT!!! :chewbacca:


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I agree with both sides of this debate... I know Lucas says no, and until he changes his mind(which isnt likely) I know its over. But, you cant blame Kit for wanting more, but some people are too skeptical... I always want more, but will be content if need be in 3 days...

either way, quick question... people have alluded to Lucas' 7-9 movie ideas. ive heard of this before, but did he have a specific story in mind, cause id be interested in knowing what that story was...


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Dear Satan -

I have done as you commanded; I twisted the little puppy's head until it went "pop" and came off in my hand. Now you have to hold up your end of the bargain and promise there will be no more Star Wars movies.

Your loyal servant,

_Mike


P.S. Thank you for your offer to suspend the television show, but your terms are too harsh. I simply can't sit through The Phantom Menace 3 times in a row.


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ThaFatness: I don't want my pet cat to die, either, but I'm not going to hope some marketing guy shoves a bunch of writers up her ass and keeps her alive for the next 30 years, either.


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I don't think we need another trilogy, as good as the PT and OT are, a one off would suit most people fine. As long as GL picked the environment looks,costumes etc so that it still looked like the SW universe, I wouldnt mind who directed it. Perhaps he'd have more fun making them if he didnt have a trilogy in mind every time he picked up a #2 pencil and a pad of paper.There's nothing wrong with keeping your fingers crossed, it got us the PT.


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As the little kids who grew up watching the PT get older there will be even more people gagging for a SW movie than before, you never know.


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I'm willing to bet there will be a SW side-story movie at some point. I don't want there to be but I can see it happening. Caravan of Courage all over again. I mean, if he'll dilute SW with a tv show and has diluted it in the past with a couple of Ewok spin-off movies what makes everyone so sure he won't dilute it again with another movie? Because he says there won't be any more? Come on, wake up folks - Lucas says a lot of things that turn out to be BS eventually. Some might call him a liar, others would say he's perfectly entitled to change his mind like anyone else but, either way, what he says and what happens in the future are very different things.

Having said all of that - of course a marketing guy is going to leave the door open. You can be sure he knows little beyond the here and now of SW.


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I believe there is another side of this to look at:

Pretty much, most people would say the George Lucas got 2 1/2 of 3 movies right in the original trilogy (with the help of others also).

And he got about 1 1/2 out of 3 movies right in the Prequel Trilogy.

So the real question is: Do we need another 3 movies that might not be as good as our expectations are? I mean, George Lucas is increasingly becoming guarded with letting anyone besides himself touch SW in terms of movies. I mean, he only directed 1 of the original trilogy (unless you count half of ROTJ). He had Lawrence Kasdan co-write alot of ESB and ROTJ. Pretty much he wanted to stay hands on for the PT. Do we expect him to be any different in the off chance that there is a 3rd trilogy in him.

Just my personal opinion: I'm okay with pretending that the Thrawn Trilogy by Zahn is the 3rd trilogy. Maybe Lucas could make that into a trilogy.


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It's silly to say fandom will die without any new movies/tv series. Was fandom dead in the late 80's early 90's? Sure there wasn't new products being shoved down everyones throat, But the Fans where always there.

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Maybe there will be an Episode III.5, to visually show the stories of Sifo Dyas, Qui-Gon Jinn in spirit form, Anakin and Obi-Wan as best friends, a love story with believable conversation, a complete duel in the hangar between Obi/Ani/Dooku, pretty much any loose end that IMO has been 'overlooked.'

Fuck it, while we're at it, let's do some pre-OT work to show why Luke A) shows more grief over the death of Obi than he does for his fucking surrogate parents, and B) why it takes years for him to show even fleeting interest in wtf happened to his mother?

2 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes and I promise no more bitching after that (for at least 2 weeks).


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there won't be another SW movie - George has been pretty clear and consistent on that. (ie NO episode VII)


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Now Lucas has said many times that the saga is the story of Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.


The things people keep bringing up that Lucas said are things he changed his mind about before. You're proving my point here folks - his word cannot be taken as sealing the future.

My prediction is that in less than 10 years time he'll let some hack make a Boba Fett teenager film starring some kid from the then equivalet of the OC. It will suck.


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install Quinlan Vos, more movie problems fixed


I agree. A movie that involves "shadowy" characters such as Vos, or the work of Fett as Bounty Hunter, or Talon Karrde, always seemed like a good idea.


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That chat reminded me of talking to rabid Christians, they sooo want the Bible to be true!!!1111


Keep the ignorant hate-mongering to yourself, k? :whateva:


Anyway, on the discussion, no more movies (and the EU is thoroughly boned too, not that I care much for being an EU guy), at least not in the theater for as long as Lucas is alive.

In terms of the person who asked about EP 7-9, those were actually combined with EP 5 and 6 - there was a lot of fluff in the script, and the final duel with the Emperor did not take place until EP 9, but Lucas decided to do a final trimdown after the success of SW: ANH, and combined the important elements from EP 5-9, and ended up editing it to EP 5 and 6.

So when you are watching ESB and RotJ, you are actually watching parts of 7-9; just not as their own movies. So the 7-9 thing, while true at one time, was no longer true once Lucas decided to trim the fluff, so to speak.


In terms of more Star Wars, I am all for more as long as it is well-written. If it comes off like a KJ Anderson or Barbara Hambly SW book, I will most definitely pass. For me, I don't give a rats ass about whether SW should auto live, or auto die, and I grew up with it, and it is as much a part of my life as anything (Seeing RotS at midnight, and then 4 times the following day on IMAX :mrgreen: ): If SW can be brought to ANY screen and be written well, then let it go on as long as it is good. If it starts to suck, and no decent writers can be found to make it NOT suck, then kill it.

Seriously, its all about the writing; good = keep SW, bad = kill SW. To say to keep or kill it for any other reason in my mind is just stupid.


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I don't think the fandom will ever die, new people arebeing introduced to Star Wars all the time and it's capturing imaginations just as it has always done.

What will be interesting however is in 15-20 years time when someone who has never seen any of them watches them in order for the first time and seeing what they think of it.

Big Lou's right. The Saga is the story of Anakin Skywalker, and the whole story revolves around him.

Nothing else has been set up in any of the movies, in my opinion, which could be a basis for more movies and GL doesn't read that EU stuff, he's been nice enough to allow the galaxy and characters he created to be used in numerous books but thats it.

Peronally I would'nt care either way if there were more made and if there are, Lucas will be at the helm as executive producer or director, the same goes for a TV series, I'd actually be more interested in that if it was set between prequels, just to see how they would go about it and what characters they would use from either trilogy.

But again, the story has been told and it is now completed


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by the same reasoning if Lucas announced tomorrow that he'd be allowing other writers and directors to make Star Wars movie you wouldn''t believe that either, cos you know how Lucas is a big, fat, old liar and such.


Flawed. Read this statement -

'Not everything Lucas says turns out to be true.'

Now (and think about this carefully), does this statement also mean that everything Lucas says is a lie?


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Keep the ignorant hate-mongering to yourself, k?

There´s that persecution-complex again... :meatwad:

I doubt the fandom will die due to lack of material, Tolkien´s been dead since the early 70s, yet people still love LOTR and it´s Middle-Earth setting. I think the same will go for SW as well.


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Keep the ignorant hate-mongering to yourself, k?

There´s that persecution-complex again... :meatwad:



Right, and if I call you an anal-retentive inbreed who kisses his own butt crack and calls it "his cousin", you better not respond because it would obviously mean you have a persecution complex. :whateva:


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This is funny ´cus I was referring to Fundies, I guess we got one right here, no? :weed:

So, Star Wars....

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Right, and if I call you an anal-retentive inbreed who kisses his own butt crack and calls it "his cousin", you better not respond because it would obviously mean you have a persecution complex.

I hear JC vs. Satan will give Sidious vs. Yoda a run for it´s money. Whoops, spoilers! :monocle:


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VT-16 wrote:
That chat reminded me of talking to rabid Christians, they sooo want the Bible to be true!!!1111


Keep the ignorant hate-mongering to yourself, k? :whateva:



Lol, I dig the delicious irony. The fact that you guys keep trying to pidgeon hole me into some sad, pathetic pre-conceived notion in those vast caverns where a brain should reside but doesn't, greatly amuses me.

Especially since up until this very sentence, I have not uttered the word God once, nor behaved in the slightest in any way you seem to have christians pegged as.

Yes, the irony is that all I said was to keep hatemongering out of a thread, and like moths to a flame, you just turn it up two notches, making yourselves look like the utter morons you tried to make me out to be.

Indeed, the irony is delicious :metal:


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Kale, you must have missed the part where I asked you to think about it. Have another go. You can do it.


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Kale, you must have missed the part where I asked you to think about it. Have another go. You can do it.


Doesn't Kale require a brain first in order to be able to "think"? :mrgreen:


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Lol, I dig the delicious irony. The fact that you guys keep trying to pidgeon hole me into some sad, pathetic pre-conceived notion in those vast caverns where a brain should reside but doesn't, greatly amuses me.

Especially since up until this very sentence, I have not uttered the word God once, nor behaved in the slightest in any way you seem to have christians pegged as.

Yes, the irony is that all I said was to keep hatemongering out of a thread, and like moths to a flame, you just turn it up two notches, making yourselves look like the utter morons you tried to make me out to be.

Indeed, the irony is delicious.... Heavy Metal II

Lol, I mentioned rabid Christians, and all I get is you. I´m appaled. :o

So, I´ve read the spoilers, does the Lake of Fire match Mustafar´s effects? Did ILM or WETA do most of the modelwork? Is the CGI distracting from the story? :cathead:


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Doesn't Kale require a brain first in order to be able to "think"? :mrgreen:


If I were half as filled with the Holy Ghost as you, I think I'd have come up with a better joke.


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Yes, the irony is that all I said was to keep hatemongering out of a thread, and like moths to a flame, you just turn it up two notches, making yourselves look like the utter morons you tried to make me out to be.

Indeed, the irony is delicious....


The only irony is that you're just as convinced you're as right as any "rabid Christian" is, and you're using your righteousness to put someone else in his place, and you don't even see it.

VT's comment was already 7 hours old by the time you had responded to it, and had generated no Christian-bashing, no "hatemongering" whatsoever. If you wanted to keep the conversation focused on the topic, you could quite easily have shut the fuck up. You do know that bit about "if thine eye offends thee," right?


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Lol, I mentioned rabid Christians, and all I get is you. I´m appaled. :o



Meh, you get what you get.

Besides, trying to change it as to meaning a small subsection of the larger group (which incidentally, I happen to have a strong dislike of christians who try to push their beliefs on others), doesn't excuse that what you posted is offensive to the group as a whole (who mostly believe that we are called to simply be honest and open about what we believe, and people can take it or leave it - we're just supposed to make sure they aren't misinformed about what they thing christianity is about vs what it really is about, etc).

Anyway, enough theology, agreed?

This, is a Star Wars forum, so lets get back to Star Wars...

You'll never guess what I saw Yoda and Yaddle doing underneath Hangar Bay 5.... :oops:


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Yes, the irony is that all I said was to keep hatemongering out of a thread, and like moths to a flame, you just turn it up two notches, making yourselves look like the utter morons you tried to make me out to be.

Indeed, the irony is delicious....


The only irony is that you're just as convinced you're as right as any "rabid Christian" is, and you're using your righteousness to put someone else in his place, and you don't even see it.

VT's comment was already 7 hours old by the time you had responded to it, and had generated no Christian-bashing, no "hatemongering" whatsoever. If you wanted to keep the conversation focused on the topic, you could quite easily have shut the fuck up. You do know that bit about "if thine eye offends thee," right?


How about this for irony? If what I said offended you (and it seems to based on your post), then why don't you gouge your eye out (since you don't seem to grasp what the passage means in context anyway).

Seriously.


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How about this for irony? If what I said offended you


It didn't. I just think you're a dumb shit.

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(then why don't you gouge your eye out (since you don't seem to grasp what the passage means in context anyway).


In fact, I grasp it quite well. That's why I brought it up, dumb shit.


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Quick! Let's bring up the creation "science" vs. evolution debate, the voracity of Biblical archeology, the existence of Jesus and gay marriage. Let's totally fuck things up.

By the way, chances are there will be no Episodes VII-IX.


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I wouldn't mind another SW movie, if it were a one-off, non-Skywalker thing. They would somehow have to give the film a very different feel. Not having an episode number would help I guess.

I think I'd rather have a few more movies than a TV show, where bad shit could happen. I'd hate to see the SW universe just sit there unused. It could be like the Bond movies, but with quality control.


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What many sheep choose to believe is inconsistency or flat-out lying on Lucas's part stems mostly from what they choose to infer from his statements, and that's usually inaccurate. When Lucas clarifies what he meant, then he's accused of lying by the people who haven't heard what they want to hear.


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Lose a fight, change the subject, eh? :)

The purpose of my first comment was to point out the similarities between Roberts´ chat and rabid Christians who want to believe no matter what. I´ve had the "pleasure" of debating with individuals like these, and the amount of denial and ignorance that crops up matches that conversation quite well. That was my only intent. You, however, took it to the next level. :weed:


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With the tv series on their way, I can´t see any good reason to have more movies in the saga. I mean, ignoring the established EU, what´s left for Luke to do? Battle generic Dark Jedi or Imperial Governors? Wow, it´s TPM all over again, just substitute Trade Federation and Viceroy with Imperial Remnant and Grand Moff. :cathead:


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Lose a fight, change the subject, eh? :)



Well, if you are one voice of lone dissent in an argument that is pointless to begin with, what's the point of fighting in what is essentially becomes a big pissing contest? It isn't like I am fighting for world peace or anything.

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The purpose of my first comment was to point out the similarities between Roberts´ chat and rabid Christians who want to believe no matter what. I´ve had the "pleasure" of debating with individuals like these, and the amount of denial and ignorance that crops up matches that conversation quite well. That was my only intent. You, however, took it to the next level. :weed:


It is what is bold that what I am offended by. And I might have not gotten the context you meant, but that phrase seems to imply that the desire to always believe automatically makes one rabid. That is what I took from it, and if that was not your intent, then while it wasn't worded the best, I apologize.


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Still on the whole Christian thing eh?

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Wow, it´s TPM all over again, just substitute Trade Federation and Viceroy with Imperial Remnant and Grand Moff.

TPM? Again?

YIPPEEEEE!!!

I think Lucas should make Episode 3 1/2 and gear it towards 25 year olds. That way, everybody will be happy.


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It isn't like I am fighting for world peace or anything.

Are you insinuating I´m a terrorist?! I´ve eaten Freedom Fries all my life! :monocle:

Sorry, walked into that one. :mrgreen:

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but that phrase seems to imply that the desire to always believe automatically makes one rabid.

Why yes, that was the intent. Belief even in the face of dissenting arguments backed up by evidence would constitute pretty rabid behaviour to me. That´s what I saw in the chatlog, that´s what I remarked upon.


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A: Yes.

:monocle:


NO

bring it on. :mad:


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Honestly, I am not even looking forward to the live-action TV series that much. I think spin-off series' have the same problem as making more movies does because there is no more story to tell that is of any relevance.

These will deal with minor characters between EP 3 and 4 and I assume there will be no Darth Vader, so what could it be? A family that crashes on a planet a la The Ewok Adventure and befriends some minor character? Who cares?

I'm not saying that that is what it is going to be but with no major characters (Vader, the Emperor, the droids, Kenobi, PT or OT principal characters, etc.) no stories of major continuity that are relevant to the story of the PT and OT seem possible.

The 3D Clone Wars series is the better idea of the two but I'm surprised that Lucas is revisiting that series again. Since the Clone Wars have always been a major mystery (not so much any more) it would be nice to feel like we have something more to summarize the three years in between EP 2 and 3, and all of the principal PT characters will be involved.

I like some of the EU but I've noticed that the further it gets from the main storyline of the movies the weaker it becomes and you can't keep telling the same story over and over again. I think I can appreciate Star Wars more now that it is finished instead of waiting for something more to come along that attempts to add to it, but would probably end up taking away. Maybe it's time to let the Star Wars movies go and appreciate it for what it is, a complete story.


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