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"Sure, Qui Gon's vocal cameo in AOTC is now a lone bookend. But it was kind of half-hearted... And I LIKE Yoda being the greatest Jedi Master. This "Now I'm your student" stuff sits awkwardly on the page and most likely it would sit even more awkwardly on the screen. "

Yoda is still the greatest Jedi Master, but he, in this scene as reported earlier, realizes that he needed to adapt the jedi council, and the fact that he didnt is part of the reason the Jedi failed... temporarily... but even Jedi make mistakes. Yoda wants to learn from Qui Gon, and its great dialogue, but it doesnt mean that Yoda is weaker than Qui Gon, it just means he still has something to learn from him. Yoda is constantly trying to learn, and this is something so important to the futre that he knows he must learn it.
I dont know if he knows he'll be alive when Luke grows up to the OT, but he isnt taking any chances. He's still stronger, but Qui Gon knows something more, so Yoda wants to learn.


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Kids... KIDS... Lucas has said over and over again that he was going to explain the whole force ghost thing in this movie. The conversation Yoda has with Qui Gon Gin will not be cut from the film. If anything, it might be Padme's last line... "I know there's still good in him." Because think about it, Obi-Wan would say something to Luke like this in Return of the Jedi:

Luke: There is still good in him.
Ben: Your mother once thought as you do. He's more machine now than man, twisted and evil.

Ahhh... but Ben doesn't. So therefore... I think maybe Padme's line will be cut. Makes sense doesn't it?


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GEORGE - LUCASFILM - ANYONE!!

For Gods sake leave the qui gon scene in,its the best bit of the movie as far as im concerned.

thankyou.

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Correct you are SnakePlisken.

I have listened to the audio book as well and there was no Great Battle on Kashyyyk.

They can't cut out the Yoda and Ginn part they also cannot cut out the Battle on Kashyyyk.

Though Kashyyyk was not in the audio book if you go on the offical site Kashyyyk is the #2 planet listed under locations and does say there will be a battle there with Chewie and Master Yoda.

Basically Kashyyyk and Yoda and Ginn will be in the film I am sure of it they have talked to much about Kashyyyk to just cut it out they spent a very long time creating that part of the movie plus they have hyped that part of the movie up so much they are too late to cut that out and the Yoda and Ginn part is too imporant to cut as well.

I don't think any of those 5 will be cut.


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Lucas has stated that will will be answered in Ep3.

The disappearing Jedi issue will be resolved in EP3. - GL

Plus it's already explained in all the new books that are coming out that are based on the movie so I guess he changed his mind again.


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The cut scene has *nothing* to do with the trailer. It's a scene appearing in the GRAPHIC NOVEL that has been cut.

BTW, Qui-Gon's voice being cut does not necessarily mean that the Force ghost explaination is not there anymore. They could have easily worked around it and have Yoda instruct Obi-Wan without saying where he got the knowledge from.


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Reliable sources say that Neeson is in the film. And Neeson happens to be one of those reliable sources. ;) The ghost of Qui-Gon is real. You'll see.

Yoda's scene on Dagobah has been deleted. It's in the comic, but it's no longer in the film. That's it. End of story.


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Qui-Gon will only be in the film as a voice guys not a ghost...

And we have no idea what is cut or not I mean by the time it comes out whatever could have been cut could be put back into the film. So lets just wait and see...

which doesn't include "Yoda on Dagobah"

Thank for DoubleSith somebody had to say it.


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who else thinks that even if this scene is in the movie, it won't explain why some dissapear when they die, and some do not? qui-gon didn't dissapear, but can still come back and talk. Also: who the hell told vader how to do this technique??


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I'd argue that the scene really doesn't explain all that much anyway. From the spoiler reports and novels we can see a scene where he just tells Yoda that he will teach him how to achieve immortality....but he doesn't explain how or why he was the first to achieve it, etc.

But I would still love to see Liam in the film...even thought he hates the prequels ;)


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His hands get cut off before his head does, genius.


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yikes... settle down guys. (how the hell does every SW arguement come down to Jar-Jar?)

yes, Lucas does throw some things in there as he goes along. but yes, he did have a general storyline in mind. he just would not be satisfied if he had to let go of something he knew he had to put in the film.

jar-jar was supposed to be a physical comedy character. one whom you were supposed to be amused by his pain and embarassment (thus, him landing on his crotch, stepping in poodoo, getting his tongue zapped, etc.)
I agree the movie didn't need him, but that's ancient history. back on topic.

Liam had the opportunity to provide his voice. His evasiveness lends that he may have recorded dialogue. It's not exactly a "this=that" situation, but it's worth more than the word of someone claiming to live in the vicinity of the studio. anyone can claim to know insider info. (SS (posting from year 1998) is a prime example of that.)


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Well, from the Trivial Pursuit clip, we can assume with great accuracy that Qui Gon is at least alluded to in the movie :heavymetal:

Whether or not we hear (or less likely, see) him remains a mystery.


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I Doubt that the attack on the jedi temple will be removed, after all, you need everything you can get by adding this dark and evil atmosphere to the movie, we need to see anakin's evil deeds in the fullest, imagine you would look and see anakin leading the stormtroopers in the temple, lasers fly over their heads and he sabers the first jedi, screen turns black....

"*sigh*.... soooo..what now!"

If this would happen we could see a 2nd ''anni kills the sandpeople'' scene, it leaves you empty! i want to see jedi's die! >=D, i want to hear evil music as anakin's eyes are filled with rage and stabs every single one of those jedi's, heads cut off, force choking...

*grins*


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