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Fox's condition is not exagerrated in the above clip, another video (below) of Michael J. Fox being interviewed shows how Parkinson has taken it's toll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkA1aN1osVk

So was it the flux compacitor, plutonium, 1.21 jigawatts of electricity or 88 mph time travel that did this to him?

On a darker note, it is sad to see anybody go through that. He understands what is happening to him and his mind cannot control what his body is doing. I'm not going to say that the Bush Administration is wrong for banning the use of stem cells to find a cure, but you would think there could be a middle ground compromise.

I will, but that's just tacked onto the gi-fuckin-gantic list of ways in which political "leaders" across the spectrum disregard potential benefits to mankind based on narrow minded religious beliefs. Maybe we should pray to Jesus for extra Dopamine along with our forgivness.

Oh, and go Cheney in 08'.

I feel really bad...hate seeing MJF (or anyone, for that matter) like that. And no, my avatar isn't in any way supposed to poke fun at the man.

I feel bad as well. Micheal J. Fox is an awesome person and actor. It sucks that he has to go through that.

Wow. I remember seeing him on inside the actors studio not too long ago. At the time of fiming his disease was under control as long as he took his meds on time. It really sucks to see how much it has progressed.

I wonder (on a darker note) that if he just didn't take his meds to film that to show just how bad it really is. Either way it really sucks.

fuck michael j fox. he wants babies to die so he can stop shaking. I don't get these pompous assholes who think thier lives are so fucking important. there are other ways to get stem cells rather than aborting fetuses. They've said it's possible to get them from bone marrow but for some reason these groups demand to use embryonic stem cells which kills the fetus. put a fucking bullet in your brain if your life is too unbarable.

what the fuck is your problem?

Yeah, but it's not like they are aborting fetuses just to get the tissue. I don't think anyone (anyone rational anyway) has suggested farming fetuses strictly for this purpose. However, if abortions are going to continue to happen, then I think it's wasteful to just incinerate that material along with all the other "medical waste". Why the fuck are we breathing dead baby??

Something tells me that if black or hispanic fetuses were found to be the best sources for stem cells, knuckle draggers all over the south would change thier tunes on this one.

Or better yet, perhaps girls who don't want to carry a baby to full term ought to just learn to enjoy facials. Then, there would be several less issues for people to bitch about.

my fucking problem you california cunt, is these asshole people that demand on using embryonic stem cells to cure their problems. their are other alternatives to harvesting stem cells but for some fucking reason they prefer the aborted baby flavor. it's a sick fucking world.

What I find interesting is that plenty of countries have been working with stem cells for many years.

Where's the great discovery? Where’s the cure for anything?

I feel bad for Fox and others like him. I feel bad for people with paralysis.

However, I think stem cell research is pseudoscience. Nothing more.

Fuck you bearvomit. Your comments aren't humorus. You can go eat shit and die.

He's not trying to be humorous. He makes a good point.

I could be wrong, but I doubt Bush or any other pro-life politician would have any problem at all with stem cell research if the stem cells came from other sources besides embryos.

I wonder if he'll mind if I fuck his hot wife after he dies.

Killing babies is bad. Scientific research to aid humanity is good. Fuck.

Gross oversimplification, but I agree with Bearvomit.

Whatever the political BS you can strain from the vid that DP posted bottom line is that it is sad to see a person like that.

I'd rather not got get into a pro-life vs pro-choice debate, but scientifically speaking embryonic stem cells can be differentiated into any cell type, whereas adult stem cells are extremely limited in their differentiation capacity. Some recent advances have suggested that it's technically possible to remove stem cells from embryos without having to terminate them, which might serve as a comprimise which would suit all parties.

That being said, the majority of success stories using exploratory stem cell cures and therapies have had more success with adult stem cells rather than embryonic stem cells. This is potentially because adult stem cells are easier to control (because they don't differentiate into unwanted cells at the site of interest). The other alternative is that because field of science is so new we don't have enough knowledge to control embryonic stem cells properly.

There are plenty of success stories using stem cells - the reason it isn't main stream as yet is because we don't understand the long term effects of stem cell therapy, and until we do it would be extremely dangerous to expose the general population to potentially unsafe therapies.

The scientists that use embryonic stem cells do so because they truely believe they offer a better end result that adult stem cells. They don't use them just to piss off the pro-lifers. It's worth remembering that.

Thanks for the science lesson. The media (in the U.S. anyway) likes to portray this as such a black and white issue. Good to hear it's not as simple as the folks who think it's just about baby-killing make it sound. And if it's not strictly about material recovered from abortions, then why is there even any debate at all? Is the real issue "embryonic stem cell research" is illegal, or all stem cell research? Because I'm not really sure, and I try to pay attention.

I'm not against Stem cell research as long as you don't have to kill someone to do it. A fetus is a alive whether any of you sick fucks know it or not. I was listening to the radio yesterday and it was said that Michael J Fox's OWN research company donated 1.5 million dollars to a new form of treatment that is 60% effective, which is MORE SO THAN STEM CELL RESEARCH HAS BEEN! It's a procedure where they actually drilll holes into the patients head, then instert a needle into the brain containing a virus that has genes added to it. The virus carries the genes to all parts of the brain, the brain responds to the gene and the symptoms are stopped! But for some reason they wont promote this new technique. Why?


Also, Michael was off his medication to do that commercial too. When he's on it he hardly shakes and he admitted to not taking them yesterday. He also doesn't take his meds when he's at congress lobying them for more money. He manipulates his condition to get sympothy for more money, plain and simple. You're being duped so you'll vote his way.

But don't start thinking for yourself now Raveers. We wouldn't want to actually QUESTION what we're being told on TV.

Yeah I agree bearvomit the fetus are much better off in a medical waste dump than helping to cure diseases. Who cares if their living, so is the person suffering. One differnce is the person with the disease is conscience and aware. A fetus absolutely is not. Not saying this is you, but I love the pro lifers that also support the death penalty. You want to talke about a fucked up world. I am for both and I would love to use the stem cells from child molesters and murderers

Alex Keaton raped my childhood.

When you guys are talking about embryonic stem cells as it relates to harvesting from a foetus, do you differentiate with ESCs harvested from an embryo that has never been, and will never be, implanted into a woman (eg excess IVF embryos)?

I swear I fucking hate Rush Limbaugh, he's not only mocking Micheal J. Fox's condition but he says that Micheal's "faking" the extreme of his condition. Someone shoot this fucktard please. Article is here.

Edit: I'm sure that Micheal stops taking the pills for the ads to show just how bad his condition is...but for Limbaugh to make these kind of acusations .....someone hand me a gun please so I can shoot this fucker myself.

He also apologized for the remark shortly thereafter. His point was that people like Fox are using their conditions to play up people's emotions.

But who cares what Rush thinks? He's a radio host.

Yeah, like he appologized when he called New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin "Mayor Nagger". Regardless of what he said about Fox, I would like to premptively appologize for calling him a jack-boot-licking waste of his mothers fat gash.

Actually Rush DIDN'T apologize. What he said was "if someone can prove me wrong, I'll THEN apologize." No one has yet because he's absolutely RIGHT about this. Michael J Fox was manipulating people's emotions to affect the vote. He's a liberal actor from CANADA. F-U-C-K marty mcfly.


and fuck you too raveers you gay marriage, superfriend wastoid california pussy.

First I'm not for gay marriages and second I'm not from California get your fucking facts straight.

Actually he is an american now. Yay land of the free. LONG LIVE AMERIkkkA.

you can't argue the fact that you're a pussy though, can you? fucking liberal

Uhh...wtf. Are you serious? That is the modern definition of campaigning. Too bad canidates and thier supporters don't actually debate the issues anymore, but to say what he did was deceptive is ridiculous. Because that's what the entire process has become, on both sides. Manipulating peoples emotions to affect the vote. Wether it be not taking your meds to show how badly this affliction effects muscular control, or telling people "the terrorist supervillian-ragheads we don't want to admit we created in the first place will kill us if you don't vote Republican". It's no different, really. I don't agree with this marketing-derived process, but it's pretty hypocritical to say Fox's tactic is dishonest.

And as far as raveers being a liberal pussy is concerned, well, I haven't seen raveers2.jpg yet so I'm not sure. I know that I'm not, though. I fucking hate hippies. Hairy armpitted petchulie smelling bitches ripped me off for half a sheet at a dead show back in 90'.

I got to admit that made me laugh. No I'm not a liberal pussy. I honestly hate polictics or any political type debates, it all gives me one big ass headache (that's why I really haven't posted in any political threads on this forum). I try to avoid it when I can.

I bet MJF could make a mean milk shake!

...And then spills it all over his hot wife's naked breasts.

Stop making fun of the less fortunate you heartless sons of bitches!

Then watch this.....
http://www.zipped.org/index2.php?&file= ... p=1&show=1

PS: I don't think I'd hit it.

Michael J Fox with Parkinson's is the new 9/11 on the internet. We all know now that Fox was taking his medication during the commerical and it was the medication making him motion as such.

According to the Washington Post:

In an interview in Ladies Home Journal’s September edition, Fox said he was taking a medication that causes jerking, fidgeting and other abnormal involuntary movements, known as dyskinesia. Fox said he was taking another medication to lessen those side affects.

An official of the National Parkinson Foundation said movements like those exhibited by Fox are the result of taking medication to treat the disease, which would otherwise result in rigidity.

“When you see someone with those movements, it’s not because they have not taken medication but because they probably have taken medication for some time,” the official said. “If you don’t take the medication, then you freeze.”

Animated GIF of Radio talkshow host Rush Limbaugh weighing in:

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Video of Rush Limbaugh's comments courtesy of CrooksAndLiars.com:

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Thanks DP for the new avatar, breakdancing RUSH!!


Concerning the video of Rush, it's taken out of context. He talked about it yesterday when a caller complained about it and explained that it was recorded when the news first broke and he was trying to describe the motions that MJF was making in the commercial. He WASN'T making fun of him. But you libs believe whatever you want, you will anyway.

Rush is simulating his desire to fuck MJF's hot wife.

Below is the youtube of radio host Rush Limbaugh's comments about Michael J Fox.

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Whether MJ Fox is slightly exaggerating or not (I don't believe he is), his message is clear. He's tired of suffering and the only glimmer of hope for him to lead a happy disease free life is to promote stem cell research.

All I know with Parkinson's there are either bad days or really bad days. It looks like for that taping he was having a really bad day.

haha, what's wrong with california? why am i a cunt?

is it really fair to call it "harvesting" when (irresponsible) teenagers (and some adults too) WILLINGLY go to the abortion clinic to get the future premature babies of america sucked out their uterus?

nobody's saying "abort your baby so i can look normal"

No...but that would make a great t-shirt.