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"It's been a wonderful Summer of Sith, and I'm pleased to be able to tell you that we have more Sith to look forward to this Fall," said Sansweet. "Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith will be released on DVD later this year."

Though exact details regarding content and release date are yet to be revealed, Sansweet did drop some hints as to what to expect. "You can expect many of the features that we've had on our past Star Wars DVDs, including an engaging commentary from those most in the know, a brand new long-form documentary, and a load of shorter documentaries that will take you behind the scenes and show you the making of Episode III."

Sansweet shared with the audience one of the eagerly anticipated deleted scenes. As with the Episodes I and II DVDs, George Lucas has overseen the completion of several scenes cut from the theatrical release of Episode III. The one shown at Comic-Con is one that can be definitely appreciated by a fan audience, for it chronicled the birth of the Rebel Alliance.

"It takes place in Senator Bail Organa's office, and we meet Senator Mon Mothma, who, as we see in Return of the Jedi, is the leader of the Rebel Alliance."

:heavymetal: Birth of the Rebellion


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The deleted scenes will be canon to me... after all they were meant for the film, they just didn't fit...


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Oooh....Fantastic!

Can't wait for these scenes!!! That one pic of all the rebel alliance members...droool.


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Isn´t it so that most of the cut-scenes from all six films either made it into the comic adaptions or novelizations? In that case, as long as they don´t contradict anything in the actual movie, I consider them part of it, just supplementary material. :)


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I would definately say that they are cannon, as they don't contradict anything later on in the film (or GL wouldn't put then in I guess)
They certainly look fantastic, and it's a shame they'll only be deleted scenes and not incorporated into the show (a'la LOTR), but I guess that would mean JW rescoring parts of the score, and GL doesn't seem to be interested in Extended Editions like Peter Jackson and Howard Shore, which is a crying shame.
Maybe one day eh? We'll get all these scenes cut back in, as well as the cherished original versions.
Not likely though, is it...


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They don't need to be reincorporated... they would just slow the film down and make the middle of it tedious. Especially all the Rebellion scenes - there was a whole sub-plot with Padme and the rebellion. They were cut for a reason. Though, of course, I can't wait to see them, I don't think they need to go in the film.


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fair point (great picture BTW) but I think the cinema version is the one where GL has to take the most care because that's for the general, cinema-going public. The same could be said about the LOTR extended editions. I mean, who watches their cinema versions now, you only put on the extendeds (I gave my cinema versions away). And what Star Wars fan wouldn't want to see more scenes added back into the film (provided they were edited in neatly, not the hatchet job the special editions were)
I totally see your point, but I still think a good chunk of SW fans would be perfectly happy with the scenes added back in, like they should have done with AOTC and TPM.


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Don't think anyonle else mentioned this, so:

If you listen to the audio-version of Sansweet's presentation, available for Hyperspace members, you get to hear the deleted scene being played. It sounds really good!


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I didn't say I didn't like EIII, I was just really disappointed in it.

The Rebel Alliance scenes were one of the story points that was sorely missed in EpIII by me - they really were the reason Palpatine could manipulate Anakin against Padme and Obi-Wan.


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I guess I'm just the type of person who doesn't need answers to everything... Anakin was the Chosen One. He fullfilled his duty, he brought balance to the Force. That was his ticket to immortality. Perhaps the cutscenes disagrees with me, but I think it works fine without it.

The thing about the scene that I do like is how Yoda becomes Qui Gon's apprentice. Yoda finally realises he cocked up and gives himself to Qui Gon's teachings. That whole concept was disregarded in the final cut, and I was quite dissapointed that it was. It's only remnants is Yoda's line "Failed, I have". To have that followed up by his reflection (on his loss in the fight and his failure to the Jedi Order) in the cutscene would be nice. But the whole "Whills" thing isn't needed.


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I really thought I read after ep one that lucas had liam under contract to be available to for the rest of the prequels, I would say I was apprently wrong but I really though I remembered reading about how lucas had a tendency of doing that to people because he never knew when he would need to bring them back in. IMO neeson is a jackoff, most people would kill to be part of the most successful franchise of all time and to be somewhat immortalized as being the most wise of all the jedi. I mean it really is quite a pivotal point that the entire jedi order was out of touch and needed to understand people like qio gon and anakin more, hence their blindness and downfall


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You can say what you want about it not happening or not being needed, but in the end it's just odd for Qui-Gon's "role" to be reduced to a twenty second scene where he's mentioned in passing as opposed to a scene where he's got Yoda on the verge of crying and reveals the secret of the Force. The weakest part of the entire movie was the rushing at the end, with deciding where to send the children, Yoda telling Obi-Wan about Qui-Gon, and then Bail putting the droids in Antilles care. The Qui-Gon scene would have provided an explanation for not only the rest of the saga, but also make the ending feel less tacked on in regards to that plot point.


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To say an actor doesn't choose his roles is just stupid. Sure, the agent finds the work for the actors, but it is their decision wether or not to take the part... The agent get the audition, the actor does the audition, the director chooses the actor, the actor signs the contract (or doesn't). For most beginners, ANY job they are picked for they will take. But for high-listers like Neeson who most likely get straight up offers rather than audtions, they don't NEED to take any job they can get because they probably have a whole list of projects they're wanted for.

Neeson has done nothing to suggest he doesn't like the franchise... He was at the Episode III premiere signing autographs for fucks sake! Would someone who doesn't want anything to do with the series be going to the premiere of a film from the said series that he's not even in?

And even if it is the case that he doesn't like the series I believe he has more professionalism than to just refuse to do the ADR session. Guiness has been on record saying that he didn't like doing the first film but he continued with the sequels because he's a professional. Neeson is a professional too and if he were asked to do the recordings he would have.


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I've never understood why people who work for George have such a profound hatred for him that they wouldn't do something as simple as ADR work.

He seems like a pretty nice man, and most people say the same. In my opinion, you've got to be a real arrogant piece of shit to refuse something as simple as an ADR for a beloved movie franchise.


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I can't discuss this with the benefit of deep insider knowledge (mainly because it seems to me that the real question is how Liam Neeson handles his career, and not how someone might think things are generally done), so I'll have to come at this another way.

On one hand, seeing that Lucas has spared no expense to get all of the details right (except for where Dooku's blade bit into Anakin's arm...ahem), it seems pretty clear to me that Lucas would have wanted Neeson to do the lines, so it apparently came down to Neeson either being unwilling or unable to do them. That sums up most of the above, yes?

On the other hand, if we do hear Qui-Gon's voice at the end of ROTS, then it sort of raises the question of why neither his voice nor his ghost shows up at any point in the OT. Obviously the character wasn't even thought of while Lucas was putting those movies together, but since we now have the completed saga to look at, and we know his relationship to Anakin, it does make for a dangling thread.

This is something that the EU has had issues with as well; what kind of realistic danger could ever be portrayed if you had Yoda, Obi-Wan or Anakin giving warnings from inside the Force every ten minutes? But if you didn't have that happening, how could you explain their silence? The Bantam books dealt with it by implying that the ghosts eventually had to "move on," and that their contact with the outside world would cease (seems to me that Yoda could have hung around for at least the 3 or 4 years that Obi-Wan did, but no one sought my advice).

So rather than get into the questions regarding a Force ghost's shelf life, I think it's entirely possible that Lucas decided that enough hints had been dropped in the PT for people to make their own minds about how a Jedi joins the Force, and instead opted to leave Qui-Gon's exposition out (or "silent," as it were).

For those who don't want to make up their own minds, there's always the EU.


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