Devil Dodo has a pretty hot chick on his avitar, topless, yet covered.

oh yeah that's the one...i just wanna jump right in there

As long as a director is bringing their vision to fruition on screen, then they're a "good director" whether we like the end result or not. They're doing their thing.

George Lucas is a good director, but in my opinion he's a great producer. Anyone who can imagine the world of Star Wars must be right brain dominant. i.e. he's conceptualy brilliant, but can't handle the details and the specific data-oriented work that goes into bringing it to life. I have the same problem as a musician. It's why I can't ever play the same song the same way twice lol.

When writing involves noting very specific mechanics, specific data, taking into account lots of different crucial factors, etc. then it ceases to be a right brain activity and becomes a left brain one.

Besides, the way he said it seemed to me as though he had that problem with all of his movies, not just ROTS. I think it's safe to say he's had some moderate success with his previous efforts... (understated sarcasm).

Already from the fact that George Lucas did write only a few screenplays in his life and asked other people to help him with most of them, we can assume that he is not qualified enough to be one of those lucky bastards everyone around calls "a professional screenwriter (xxx pages a day)" bowing with respect.

So he should be called an amateur screenwriter, so what? Could you explain what other important abilities in screenwriting do professionals have that a person that writes 5 pages a day couldn't possibly have and how it is all connected with faster/slower writing?

Fuck you, mother fucker!

Keep in mind that most of the Battle of Geonosis scenes were created by his animatics team - some of these have even been resurrected for RotS.



Was or is?... he hasn't really made that many other films at all since the early 80's, other than Howard the Duck, that I can really remember.



The idea behind Star Wars is fantastic - love it. I love the designs, the art etc (most of which GL didn't create, lets be fair - the design team is owed that glory). There are aspects I like, there are aspects I don't like. I can talk about both.



Gwen getting the Oscar for Shakespeare in Love instead of Cate for El1zabeth.

:P

No, seriously...ANH was saved by his wife (Oscar nomineee editor) and a few other serious script writers etc. THX1138 and American Graffiti - how old are they now? C'mon...some consistancy would be good. :P




By dog beats me at pool...what's ya point? :P Hahahahahahaha!

But really, I can stand back and critique something, yet still enjoy it. I can't believe believe my love of SW is questioned because of an opinion I have about the delivery on screen of the story. Ho-hum...

True, pre-viz does put the control in the hands of some other folks. But the actual framing, composition and lighting (at least of live action) ultimately rests with GL and Tattersal. And since I've seen that dude's IMDB credits I'm going say GL is responsible for the quality of the images.

EDIT: Plus, just think about A New Hope. Binary Sunset. GL def works well with images. I don't think we can deny that.
EDIT 2: GL is also a good editing. Burtt's the one responsible for anything wrong, no doubt there IMO. I look forward to GL's future movies. I think we'll get a much better grasp of his strengths as a filmmaker.


Ascovel and others -
Geez louise, peoples I wasn't try to bash Lucas. Calm down. Saying I think he's not a great screenwriter is not bashing him. He is admitting it in the quote, it's a laborious process for him. Let's just move on to more important things.




The following people need to identify the chicks in their avatars, for it's in the greater interest:

BearaceDougie
DevilDodo
Ericrypt

As someone who likes to write the occasional short story (as well as trying my hand at doing something longer) it can take up to an hour and a half to do just one page. It's not that I'm suffering from writer's block, instead it's the exact opposite many times. I want to get the page as near perfect as I can the first time out. Afterwards I will go through to edit out lines, words etc or add them in. 5 pages of script a day would seem about average...Most people take about two weeks to write a first draft. Sometimes longer. It just depends on what you're writing and how in depth you are going.

her name is Elin Grindemyr... so people can stop pm'ing me now!

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LOL

I know I might sound like a schizo now joining your side of the Lucas defense in this debate which I started, but I have to second this comment, but take it a step further. I don't think TPM and AOTC can be pointed to as showing less talent then the OT. Whehter people like the PT as much as the OT or not is fairly subjective, but Lucas has achieved with the PT what he intended to do. They are very different films, but I hesitate to concede they are made with less quality.

Personally, my basic analysis of Lucas as a filmmaker goes a little something like this - brililant thinker, master of all things mythology, great storyteller, mediocre screenwriter, technical wizard, great cineamatographer, difficult director.

He could re-write as he goes. That is how I write. I have 27 pages of a script done and before I add anything to it I usually read it and tinker with it.

Although I don't make scripts a priority because I know they will never get made

I don't know why I'm helping to bloat up this thread, but that has always been the most ridiculous argument. Now, I don't mean to offend you, but why should someone not be able to criticize someone just because THEY can't do it well. That makes absolutely no sense.

I completely disagree with Ternian, but lets not all jump on the don't bash bandwagon. Hell, I'd never be able to criticize anything since most people who do it professionally are probably better than I am.

Not to be an ass or anything.

lucas is god people. lol I just "forced" myself to read this thread. The one highlight has to be fatboys post. I really cant believe we are still arguing about drivel like this.