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I heard the soundtrack for the first time yesterday, and I agree with Smith. At first I thought that Williams got a bit lazy and just took some of the old songs and threw them together at the end for filler.

While I would have preferred a more encompassing montage, the more I listen to it, the more I like it. (not loving it yet) When I relax and stop being so judgmental, I get the feeling that William's is trying to accent the connection between the two trilogies. If the movies had been produced 1-6 then yes it would have fit better at the end of ROTJ. Since they were made 4-6 then 1-3, the choice of music almost seems ideal.

Still could have added a bit more PT music to it though.


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Guys and Gals, this is my first post, so don't rip me on this.

I downloaded the soundtrack, which was an awesome adult geek moment yesterday (my wife and children were not amazed) but although this is only about 80 minutes of the film and there are surely (maybe) another 60 minutes of music that we won't get until a special release later this year or next year (hopefully they'll release a set with all six soundtracks in order, with cues, from the six films).

I have to say it's pretty good so much different than the rest.

You can listen and pick out little bits from all Williams' other soundtracks.

Yes, I agree there are Harry Potter moments, but you can also hear the sharp strings from the Raptor attack on Jurassic Park and the blattering deep horns from Close Encounters.

The Anakin vs. Obi- Wan track is great as well as Anakin's Dark Deeds. Just really awesome and can't wait to see where these tracks are cued and used in the film and what other music he has in store.

We still might have music in the Sidious vs. mace, Sidious vs. Yoda and Anakin vs. Count Dooku, etc.

The interlacing of Vader's music is awesome. Just great stuff and eventhough we're getting it almost a month early, it leaves me wanting more i know we're all spoiled in this world of spoilers.

Thanks for this great website I have been using TFN for several years and was glad to find this one. It's got lots more content.

Thanks to all and May The Force Be With US ALL this May 19!



ps: I have all the OT soundtracks and the short version of Episode I, but can anybody give me a link for the Ep. II soundtrack if that's still around. I would love to download that. I just never got a chance to buy it. Thanks in advance...


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Maybe its just me, but I don't hear snippets of Harry Potter, ET, Indiana Jones, Close Encounters, Jurassic Park or Home Alone in this soundtrack. I hear John Williams, whose musical signature is very apparent, while much more subtle than that of say, Danny Elfman. There isn't a composer alive (or dead) who doesn't/didn't have a musical signature (at least a *good* composer) and we shouldn't begrudge Williams his. I'm as big a music nerd as anyone, but I know enough not to analyze everything all the time. When you do that, you kill the beauty.

Plus we can't forget that we have yet to see how this plays out on screen, an advantage the other 5 Saga films have over this one. ;)


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i just think its a throwback for the fans morethan anything (the throne room i mean), and instead of bitching about wether it belongs there or not, we should appreciate what JW has done for us.


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Oh, Don't take it the wrong way. I'm not saying he's ripping off pieces of music from his other films, I'm just saying that you can hear pieces of those other soundtracks.

When he did A NEW HOPE in 1977, he had only a couple of other works under his belt and now look at all the soundtracks. I would think it would be very difficult ( and this is evidenced in a lot of writers) that they from time to time reflect and "borrow" from previous works.

Williams is a great composer and has such a wide variety of pieces of music he's written. In trying to design the last soundtrack he will ever likely write for the Star Wars universe, I'm sure he wanted to do something that would tie it in with the last three films.

I think he did that well, especially in using the Force theme, Vader's theme and the ending the Throne Room will be a sweet treat for those of us who watch till the end of the credits.

And this music will take on a whole new meaning once watched with images.

I remember one time they showed the Carbon Freezing scene from Empire Strikes back on a documentary without music and then showed the same scene with music -- a tremendous difference and another reason why quality orhestrations like this are necessary.

Now when we download and listen to these cuts, it's about the same thing. Our minds are drooling and we can't wait and we are analyzing this but we haven't seen the movie matched with these sounds.

That will be uterly outstanding.

I think Lucas has finally got it right and will be ending the films with a bang. Too bad this energy and flavor couldn't have shown through more in Ep. I.

But then that's kind of like A New Hope and ESB, compared to ROTJ.

I'm not bitchin' about the soundtrack -- it's great. And I don't think it's wrong for someone to fall back on clips of music or styles from other works. In fact, it's kind of cool to listen to the soundtrack and pick out little snippets that remind you of something else.

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Well, speaking as a musician AND as a film music fan AND especially a Star Wars fan, I think this is the best score of all the Star Wars films. It has the emotional depth of The Empire Strikes Back (Padme's Ruminations, Anakin's Betrayal, Birth of the Twins/Padme's Destiny), the epic scale and tragedy of Return of the Jedi (Battle of the Heroes, Anakin's Dark Deeds, Anakin vs. Obi-Wan) and the fun and intense excitement of A New Hope (Star Wars and the Revenge of the Sith, General Grievous). It also has something no other Star Wars score has or could have had up until now: All of the major themes from the Star Wars saga. Sure there may be some smaller themes missing, but you've got The Force Theme, Across the Stars, Imperial March, Luke's theme, Leia's Theme, supposedly Duel of the Fates will appear somewhere, and now we have the latest and also the last themes that will be written by John Williams, such as BotH and Grievous's theme. And the fact that it has an end credits sequence that is, to put it as some have, more OT and less PT, provides us with a link to the OT, as well as a sense of nostalgia. It also gives us what some have said we wanted: more OT-style music.
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I think this soundtrack, from a musicians point of view, is superb. Williams has given us what we wanted, and he has also given us some suprises by writing well outside his normal style in places. From a Star Wars fan's standpoint, this score is everything I wanted, from the new themes, to the great action cues, to the emotional cues that accompany Anakin Skywalker's downfall, to the nostalgic reprisal of some familiar, and sometimes unexpected, themes from the OT. I think Williams has outdone himself, and this is a perfect musical resolution of the Star Wars saga. My hat is off to you, Mr. Williams. :heavymetal:


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The soundtrack is a wonderful piece of work. I never spent much time listening to the TPM or AOTC CD's as they just didn't do it for me. This however is something else. Dark, moody mourning and at times eerie it conveys the mood of the film superbly. Once it matches up to the imagery on screen it's only going to improve IMO.


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I would add that if you're looking for a torrent, then go to a torrent site and find one. Most of the major torrent sites have the soundtrack available, and at least a couple that I know of have also posted the soundtracks from the rest of the series as well.


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Why does everyone keep saying that "Palpatine's Teachings" ends with the music where we first see Coruscant? It's the music from the scene where everyone LEAVES Coruscant and Jar Jar says "Wesa Going Home!" Not a big deal, I guess, but everyone keeps getting it wrong.

Also, I think the track called "The Birth of the Twins and Padme's Destiny" doesn't actually score the birth of twins - In the movie, the twins are born, then Padme dies, then we cut to Vader's "birth" then back to the T-IV where Yoda Bail and Obi-Wan decide what to do with the twins then Yoda and Obi discuss Qui-Gon then Bail orders 3po's memory wipe an THEN we cut to Padme's Funeral. That seems like a lot of film to happen in the short piece of music before the funeral choir from Ep 1 enters. My guess is that music underscores Yoda and Obi talking about Qui-Gon and then Bail telling Antilles to wipe 3POs memory. The first time through the funeral music underscores the funeral and then I think maybe the second part actually underscores the Star Destroyer/Death Star scene - listen to the track and picture THAT in your head - it's pretty cool. Then the opening of the next track (A NEW HOPE and END CREDITS) is Bail giving Leia to his wife on Alderaan and Obi-Wan bringing Luke to Owen and Beru obviously.

By the way, I must say I am surprised how many people don't like the score to ROTS - I think it's a very powerful, emotional cd - it's not as action oriented as the other 5 scores might be and it's not necessarily memorably melodic (as I said in a previous post) but I still LIKE it - in fact, I think the music is actually dramatic in a very REAL way, unlike the drama in TPM or JEDI which, except for the choir when Luke attacks Vader for the last time, seems sort of by-the-numbers. I mean, "The Immolation Scene" sounds like it would fit right in with the score to "Angela's Ashes", "JFK", or even, dare I say, "Schindler's List". I mean, if you picture what the script and novel say is happening during this music, how can one not find it powerful and very moving?

Also, I made a CD/playlist with the CD in an alternate order, based partly on track titles and partly on Pable's Post-Notes and THE MAKING OF STAR WARS last chapter. Perhaps that has colored my appreciation for the score - the emotion seems to follow that arc of the novel/script/comic very nicely in this order. If anyone is interested, it's:

1 - Main Title / ROTS
13 - Grievous Speaks to Lord Sidious
2 - Anakin's Dream
7 - Grievous and The Droids
6 - Palpatine's Teachins
5- General Grievous
11 - Enter Lord Vader
8 - Padme's Ruminations
4- Anakin's Betrayal
10 - Anakin's Dark Deeds
9 - Anakin vs Obi-Wan
12 - The Immolation Scene
14 - The Birth of the Twins and Padme's Destiny
15 - A New Hope and End Credits
3 - Battle of the Heroes (DVD Version/Concert Arrangement - not film ver)

And in re:the whole Harry Potter comparison thing - William's love theme from the Cowboys is very similiar to the home theme from Superman and the main theme to JFK. The Grievous theme has as many notes in common with the Battledroid/Trade Federation theme (which itself sounds like the Nazi theme from LAST CRUSADE and resembles the musicwhen they vans arrive at the main building in Jurassic Park) as the Harry Potter theme (which sounds a lot like Hook and Witches of Eastwick). Angela's Ashes has the same harmonic backing as The Imperial March. And let's not forget how much the opening Star Destroyer music from Ep 4 sounds like the finale to MARS from THE PLANETS and how much the desert cue sounds like the opening to the 2nd tableau of THE RITE OF SPRING. The Victory Celebration music from ROTJ:SE and DVD is almost exactly like the music that was temped into it (there's a bootleg video floating around the net of the animatic for the scene). DOTF sounds as if it is Wiliiam's take on Carmina Burana. The list goes on and on of these kind of things. I LOVE John William's music - I think he is the consumate artist - the perfect blend of intellectualism and emotion, craft and artistry, function and drama. IMHO, no living film composer can compete with his intelligencce and ability scoring movies. Goldsmith and Elmer Bernstein were on par with him, but with their deaths last year, I think JW is the last one left.

Horner is sort of the Anakin Skywalker of film composers - he obviously is very talented and skilled as writing for film - but he seems to always take the easy way out and just rehash his own work, or worse, the work of others. For example, his recent Oscar-nominated "original and haunting score" to A BEAUTIFUL MIND, rips off a little known score to THE WAY OF THE GUN which is even presented as the temp music in the deleted scenes!!! ALIENS steals from Prokofiev, FIELD OF DREAMS and A PERFECT STORM from Copland - the man has no shame. I know film composers must often imitate their temps to satisfy their bosses, but Horner seems to have no qualms simply stealing it.

I don't think Williams was being lazy using the Leia theme and the Throne Room in the end credits - I think he felt like they might offset the ever-present heaviness of the music in the film itself - notice that except for the afore-mentioned brassy fanfare from Ep 1, there really isn't any happy or light music in the entire cd until the last track. No Jar Jar-type bouncy music or 3PO sort of jaunty stuff. It's all either action or intense drama. Isn't that what everyone was wishing for when TPM and AOTC came out?

Anyway, enough of my ranting - apologies for such a long post - I hope I didn't bore everyone!


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I agree with the earlier post that I believe states that Lucas himself feels his movies are about visuals and music. Whether the soundtrack as a whole is mediocre, the true test will be what music/visuals stand out in your head. Here are a few of my favorite moments where I believe visuals and music work together nicely.

TPM Qui Gon tearing away at the blast doors on the trade federation ship.
TPM Darth Maul as the hanger door opens and he looks up from under his hood.
AOTC Moment when Anakin's mother dies and the pain and anger get the best of him.
AOTC Anakin and Padme being led into the arena on Geonosis.
ANH The escape pod spiraling toward Tatooine.
ANH Luke staring at the Tatooine sunset.
ESB Falcon tearing through the asteroid field.
ESB Yoda lifting Luke's X-wing out of the swamp.
ESB Han getting put into carbon freeze.
ROJ Moment Luke is being forced into the Sarlaac pit.
ROJ After Vader's remark about converting sister, the chorus singing along with the fight.
ROJ "And now young Skywalker, you will die."
ROJ Luke in the Death Star hanger, gazing at his dad just after he dies.
ROJ Lighting Vader's funeral pyre.

For me those are real Star Wars moments.


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that indeed sums up the best moments in star wars :heavymetal:


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why the hell isn't the vader/luke scene in esb not listed? The music right before luke jumps, as he makes his choice is very powerful.


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why the hell isn't the vader/luke scene in esb not listed? The music right before luke jumps, as he makes his choice is very powerful.


I never claimed it was a complete list! That one slipped, thanks... :)


Post Posted: April 17th 2005 7:01 pm
 

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this score is filled with emotion and i feel that it is one of williams' best. however I hope Sony releases a 2-disc set that includes all of the music used in the movie, such as the Battle on Kashyyyk, Anakin vs Dooku, Paps vs Mace, Palps vs Yoda.... etc. etc. I remember feeling ripped off after seeing TPM and then buying the soundtrack, and asking, "wtf? where has all of the music gone?"


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It's a great piece of music. But obviously whoever thinks it's not that great have to wait til they hear it onscreen. Williams always does better when he's doing depressing crap...I'll miss him when he's dead, that's for damn sure. Probobly moreso than Elfman...


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sate pestage III wrote:
Also, I think the track called "The Birth of the Twins and Padme's Destiny" doesn't actually score the birth of twins - In the movie, the twins are born, then Padme dies, then we cut to Vader's "birth" then back to the T-IV where Yoda Bail and Obi-Wan decide what to do with the twins then Yoda and Obi discuss Qui-Gon then Bail orders 3po's memory wipe an THEN we cut to Padme's Funeral. That seems like a lot of film to happen in the short piece of music before the funeral choir from Ep 1 enters. My guess is that music underscores Yoda and Obi talking about Qui-Gon and then Bail telling Antilles to wipe 3POs memory!

It very likely does score the birth of the twins, and then probably skips to the funeral.


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More than likely you're right. They did alot of cutting on the last two cds I'm sure what it is is the kids birth, then probobly the discussion between Yoda and Obi Wan Maybe the Tantive IV memory wipe, and then the funeral.

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I have to say, listening to this score, I am mesmerized, and if I'm right, the scenes that go with these pieces will make the scene ten, maybe twenty times better.

This really is the best score of the prequels, and I can't get enough of it. As a matter of fact, I can't get it period (wink wink)


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fuzzyfowler1 wrote:
I agree with the earlier post that I believe states that Lucas himself feels his movies are about visuals and music. Whether the soundtrack as a whole is mediocre, the true test will be what music/visuals stand out in your head. Here are a few of my favorite moments where I believe visuals and music work together nicely.

TPM Qui Gon tearing away at the blast doors on the trade federation ship.
TPM Darth Maul as the hanger door opens and he looks up from under his hood.
AOTC Moment when Anakin's mother dies and the pain and anger get the best of him.
AOTC Anakin and Padme being led into the arena on Geonosis.
ANH The escape pod spiraling toward Tatooine.
ANH Luke staring at the Tatooine sunset.
ESB Falcon tearing through the asteroid field.
ESB Yoda lifting Luke's X-wing out of the swamp.
ESB Han getting put into carbon freeze.
ROJ Moment Luke is being forced into the Sarlaac pit.
ROJ After Vader's remark about converting sister, the chorus singing along with the fight.
ROJ "And now young Skywalker, you will die."
ROJ Luke in the Death Star hanger, gazing at his dad just after he dies.
ROJ Lighting Vader's funeral pyre.

For me those are real Star Wars moments.


ANH The Falcon escapes the Death Star/TIE dogfight


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thanks Neil but a good majority of the MF forums have had 256kbps mp3 rips for more than a week now.


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I've just listened to Battle of the Heroes all the way through for the first time.

I just wonder how the composition plays during the Duel as I could not quite envision how it would play out in such a rhythmic visual environment...

... Ooooh, Anakin's Betrayal is sounding rather amazing!


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Wow, the ESB duel music during Anakin Vs Obi Wan is such a sheep orgasmic moment!

Hmm, the first part of Anakin's dark deeds seems a little like something out of Howard Shore's score for LotR.


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Ouch... I really don't like the way it transitions into the end credits.

The loud fanfare has always seemed to come at a point that seemed natural and exciting in all 5 other movies. This time it comes at a really odd point that doesn't mesh well.

It is the only bad thing about the whole soundtrack album though. From an initial listening it is my favourite of the PT although I think that Empire and Jedi may have the edge over it from the OT.

However, how it all fits in with the images will only be revealed once I see the movie.


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can any one pm me Anakins betrayal and Dark deeds, very much appreciated :mrgreen:


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Ouch... I really don't like the way it transitions into the end credits.

The loud fanfare has always seemed to come at a point that seemed natural and exciting in all 5 other movies. This time it comes at a really odd point that doesn't mesh well.

Agreed. Unfortunately there's several other awkward sounding transitions, a few in that track alone.


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Question, at www.starwars.com , when that new flash site is opened, you sometimes get to see the anakin one, but i hear a very dark theme then, which track is this?

Refresh a bit if you want to hear it.


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good call.


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If it's not too much trouble, could someone pm me a link to the 256kbps mp3s? Sorry for begging like a god damn dog.


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don't forget that the track is only like 4 minutes, while the entire battle is around 12 (at least the last time I checked it was cut at 12 minutes). The music onscreen will be different, I'm really looking forward to hear it :heavymetal:


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I still don't believe that music is for the OSB though.


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If anyone would like a revised CD jewel case that has the radio remix, here is one I made.
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Yes it also got a 5 star review from Empire Magazine (best selling film mag in Britain). Far & away the best prequel soundtrack to date.


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