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Post Posted: April 13th 2005 1:11 pm
 
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An article was recently posted at IGN:

http://filmforce.ign.com/starwars/articles/603/603764p2.html?fromint=1

On this page, there's a bit of info from Ian McDiarmid saying how he's a Sith "from way back"


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For those of you that don´t want to search for the stuff:



"One other Star Wars item of interest: actor Ian McDiarmid, who plays Palpatine in both the original trilogy and the prequels, let some interesting details about his character slip in an interview with Sci Fi Wire. He described Chancellor-cum-Emperor Palpatine as being a purely evil and malevolent character.

"I think the Emperor is the incarnation of evil, and he's only really interested in power and manipulation. Nothing else gives him any pleasure. He's a Sith from way back, and they don't have a moral universe. They want to create power for themselves by destroying others. It's very interesting to play a character that is irredeemable. There are even real people that have that kind of motiveless malignancy.

"I think it's terrific for me that the final film is also my character's apotheosis. He really explodes in all his unbridled evil. Hypocrisy goes to one side and you see this creature for what he really is. It's been interesting to play the character in the last two movies on the sidelines, and now he moves into the middle. It's a very satisfying personal climax and a privilege."

A Sith from way back? Perhaps Palpatine is older than we realized."




It raises some questions about Palpatine and how old he really is, and more importantly his origins. Aside from his master Darth Plagueis, being from Naboo, and a vague databank entry on the official site, I can't seem to find much more information on him. Is there anymore info on him out there?

EDIT: Also what he says about the character is cool, you guys might like it.


UPDATE:

The latest homing beacon newsletter answers some questions...

Due to his demanding performance schedule, actor Ian McDiarmid was not able to make the trip to Indianapolis for Celebration III, the Star Wars party of a lifetime. Still, McDiarmid did want to share his insights with the fans in attendance. During the Episode III scoring sessions in London, he sat down for an exclusive interview with starwars.com Hyperspace and spoke candidly and at length about his role as Palpatine throughout the Star Wars saga.

This interview will appear on video during Celebration III and online for members of starwars.com Hyperspace. Here's a sample:

"When we were doing Return of the Jedi there was a rumor that George Lucas had nine films in his head, and he'd clearly just completed three of them," recalls McDiarmid. "Someone said that, 'Oh, I think what he might do next is go back in time, and show how Vader came to be.' It never occurred to me in a million years that I would be involved in that, because I thought, 'oh well, then he'll get a much younger actor.' That would be obvious."

McDiarmid carried on with his stage career after the success of Jedi. His connection to the saga was kept from being overly publicized due to his being obscured under heavy makeup for the role of Emperor Palpatine. Years would pass before Star Wars entered his life again.

"I heard that George was indeed going to make those prequels, and that he was coming to London and he wanted to see me. I had no idea, I suppose, that the Emperor in some form would be in it." After a brief meeting with Lucas (10 minutes in length, McDiarmid recalls) it became clear that Palpatine was not only returning, but that he would be central to the events in this new trilogy.

"I was sort of reeling," McDiarmid says. "Then he explained to me, not in great detail, about the trajectory of the three movies, and my character in relation to that. But he talked about two people. He talked about this perfectly ordinary, rather charming, politician who one day became Emperor. And that story would be seen in films 1 and 2, and in film 3 he would move closer to the center as he got closer to power."

Unlike the face-obscuring role of the Emperor, this time McDiarmid would keep his own features for the role of Palpatine. "This only happened because I was the right age," says McDiarmid. "I was the right age, ironically, for the first prequel when it was made. I wouldn't have been if he'd started with [Episode I]. So I was in the very strange and rather wonderful paradox of playing myself when young at my own age, having played myself previously when 100-and-I-don't-know-what. So that was, of course, extremely interesting and a challenge, and it was wonderful to think that I'd be part of the continuing saga. And of course I went home and refused to believe it. But bit by bit it became a reality."

For the complete interview, catch the 5 p.m. screening on Thursday April 21st at the 500 Ballroom of the Indiana Convention Center during Celebration III. You can also find it online as part of the extensive starwars.com coverage of the event. It will be exclusive to Hyperspace members.


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eh


Post Posted: April 13th 2005 1:19 pm
 
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awesome. ian mcdiarmid being that interested in the chracter just makes me more excited to see him act in ep 3


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Yeah, I think it's generally assumed, by most, that he's a lot older than he looks. I haven't read the screenplay so I don't know if the dialogue goes into that or not, but somehow I doubt it. Doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.


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OldSWguy wrote:
Palps aint old. it's just another way of say he's "old School".

Totally agree. I think some of you are reading too much into this. More than likely he's just commenting on the fact that the Sith are the old arch nemsis of the Jedi and they've returned in the form of Sidious. When he says "he's a Sith from way back" that doesn't necessarily mean that Sidious literally has been around for a long time.


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I think he's making it clear that he didn't become a bad guy between AOTC and ROTS.


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It´s possible that he used some form of obscure medical technic to stay alive for longer than is humanly possible. I mean, this is a civilization more high-tech than our own, there must be some ways to extend the life of people who want it and can pay for it. :weed:


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Yeah the bush sure is a fascist. IM a republican and even i cant stand him. Hes like the antichrist or something.


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HST wrote:
Yeah the bush sure is a fascist. IM a republican and even i cant stand him. Hes like the antichrist or something.



wtf? Where did that come from? Dude, I think you're in the wrong thread.

Besides he may be evil, but he doesn't have the triple 6 stamped on his scalp. No way satan would be behind that cheeseball of a politician. It's been decided that Britney will be giving birth to next antichrist.


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I always assumed Palps was equally if not older than Yoda..i had the idea he was millennia old.


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That's what I thought also. After reading the screenplay and Palpatine says this
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PALPATINE: (continuing) Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"?

ANAKIN: No.

PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.


I know Palpatine is full of half truths and twisted lies, but saying the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise as a legend would make me think he's alot older than what we think.


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This is from JUST THE FACTS on tfn:

"Sidious is not a thousand years old; there have been other Sith lords between 1000 years ago and Darth Sidious." - PH

PH: Pablo Hidalgo


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Sorry, what was that again? I was distracted by your avater.


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Guys, he's just saying that he was a sith way back in ROTJ, unlike the rest of the characters in the prequals. He played palpatine in the OT so he's been a sith from "WAY BACK" 20 some odd years ago.


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Maybe they never really decided how old he is because it doesn't fucking matter.

Obviously. he's really old. He's had plenty of time to get his skills up to where he can go toe-to-toe with guys like Yoda and Windu. Maybe not as good as them, but not far off either. That's all that really matters. He's had a lot of practice.


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open to interpretation....

in my interpretation, Palps is like, 1000 years old.

And i dont care what PH says, cos he has said a bunch of crap in the past. In any case its posted at :gb2tfn:


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With way back, he probably means as long as he can remember.

Palps isn't ancient, he's normal age. At least, that's what I like to think. He had a master (plagueis) which in his turn also had a master and so on and on, until you reach the 1000 years before the Empire period where the Sith were all destroyed.


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No, Palps is a clone...therefore it only took half a lifetime to grow him. :roll:

This is a goddamned retarded arguement.


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It only stands to reason hes at least 100-200 years old. Gaining influence and being as wise as he is isnt done in a mere 50 odd years. Not on that scale. But i guess we will never know for sure....


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It only stands to reason hes at least 100-200 years old. Gaining influence and being as wise as he is isnt done in a mere 50 odd years. Not on that scale. But i guess we will never know for sure....


I think you only have to be 35 to run for President.


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I was wondering where the hell that one came from myself.

Someone had a Hitler=Bush avatar that was too big and he got banned. Was just a few posts before the guy you quoted.


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new info from homing beacon newsletter on main post

Also that EU clone stuff about him sounds like crap.


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Isn't there a rule here about bringing up that stupid Sidious clone theory?

Sidious clone theory = banned.

I thought I read that somewhere along with the Sifo-dyas theory bullshit.

It is rather dumb anyway. I mean you don't have to be old to be evil, the Olsen twins & those kids that brought us Mmnnnbop proved that.


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Dan Druff wrote:
The latest starwars.com email, Homing Beacon #134, contains an interview with Ian McDiarmid. He said this:

"I was the right age, ironically, for the first prequel when it was made. I wouldn't have been if he'd started with [Episode I]. So I was in the very strange and rather wonderful paradox of playing myself when young at my own age, having played myself previously when 100-and-I-don't-know-what."

McDiarmid may not have the final word over GL, but he's the actor who played the character, and he's under the impression the Emperor was somwhere between 100 and 200 years old in ROTJ.


thanks for the info :heavymetal:


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so... not trying to ruin the lindsay lohan thread, but thats interesting that he says hes only 100 and something


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yeah the most recent edit by burtt had that changed


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