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It's possible that it's just a semantics mix up right there. Maybe they intended for you to actually see Qui-Gon originally. I mean we've HEARD dead people speak in SW before, what with Qui-Gon in AoTC, so when they say "We see the first Jedi Master to communicate from beyond" they do actually imply something original has happened, the force ghost. Maybe the seeing is cut and the hearing is left alone? I sure hope so.


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I agree with Ferr..... and in my opinion it would be a terrible mistake to cut this sequence from the film, as it has been reported in spoilers it would make a FANTASTIC scene!


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im going with the chewie one on this.

lucas has said all along that the prequels will reveal the secrets of the disappearing act... surely he wouldnt cut it now.


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My money is on the Qui-Gon scenes being cut.
Honestly I don't really mind these scenes being gone, I haven't been a huge fan of what I've heard about these scenes. We've survived for almost 30 years without an explanation of the force ghost thing, so why does everyone think we need one now all of the sudden?
Also, I haven't understood how Anakin's ghost would fit into all of this. Young or old (DVD or not DVD), when on earth would Anakin have been through the "training" to become a ghost at the end of ROTJ? Sure, the Qui-Gon explanation is cool for Yoda and Obi-Wan, but Anakin seems to be a pretty big plot hole in this. Sith aren't supposed to be able learn the power of immortality according to the Qui-Gon scenes, but somehow when Anakin comes back to the light for like 10 mins before he dies, that's enough time for him to suddenly learn the ghost power? Doesn't make sense to me.


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"Maybe the seeing is cut and the hearing is left alone?"

Yes, I'd say either this or maybe Chewbacca's farewell to Yoda standing by the escape pod. Once Bail finds the pod leaving the planet, the audience would know what happened, so the goodbye scene can be cut.


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Yes, I agree with that one Fantana. When Anakin turns to the darkside, the good Jedi that he was no longer exists. So its like he basically dies in the eyes of the light side of the force, so when he is redeemed in ROTJ his ghost is that of when he was last part of light side. Ben & Yoda never turned so they appear as they looked when they died.


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Seeing how Lucas went out of his way to establish that the Hayden version of Anakin was the Blue Glowie, it would be a huge waste of time and money to film the scene which more or less explains it, only to then cut it out. That and it would leave a lot of folks confused about the Blue Glowie thing and word getting out of it being cut from the film would only make things worse. I doubt Lucas is fool enough to do that, but we'll have to wait and see I guess.


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Qui-Gon is cut.

EDIT: To elaborate... what I was told is that Lucas tried to get Liam Neeson to record some dialogue but the request was declined. Lucas then tried out voice actors who imitated Qui-Gon for the LucasArts games, but it was decided that it just wasn't working. As a result, this part of the story was trimmed and eventually almost completely thrown out, other than what Yoda reveals to Obi-Wan, that we are left assuming he just figuring out through meditation.


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According to the offical Site one those ask the Jedi Council or something like that vader did fade away.


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I hope they cut the Sidious-Windu fight. It sounds boring.


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I wonder if they thought about including Qui-Gon's ghost as early as TPM, because either in TPM novel or the kids audiobook (I have both, so it had to be one or the other) Yoda tells Obi-Wan he has a new padawan for him and says something like, "Already know him you do. Master Qui-Gon Jinn," or something to that effect.

That obviously wasn't in the movie. I hope the same isn't true this time around.


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That would be pretty ridiculous for Neeson to totally mess up a person's film over some silly ego-related reason. If this is indeed true, I'll make it a point to not see any of his future films. :|


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"you are essentially dealing with ADR work.."

Yeah. I can't see Lucas being held back because of the absence of an actor. He's spent his whole career looking for technological ways around such obstructions. Surely they could do a digital faint ghostly image of Qui-Gon in the window, or something like that. Or just the voice.


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I don't know what they are cutting, but I hope they aren't cutting the Mace/Sidious duel. I'm looking forward to that more than almost any other scene. If it must be one of these, I hope its the attack on the temple, because we don't really need to see that so much as know the aftermath.


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