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Post Posted: February 1st 2013 12:09 am
 

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He's always been great with dialogue.


Yes may I point out that Kasdan was "consulted" specifically on Marion's character and dialogue on KOTCS?


Post Posted: February 2nd 2013 11:25 am
 

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As far as the release date, I still think it's very doable. The key is when they start production - if they get to production by the summer, the film is on track.


Sorry, CoGro, KK is now officially saying the time-table is "as long as it takes to get a good story". Would have been nice to see something soon, but all signs point to 'no'.


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Different theory: Is Episode 7 Getting Bumped Up?



We are going to present our case in the best legalistic fashion that we’ve learned from watching courtroom movies.

Exhibit A: Disney is not going to compete with itself

Avengers 2, another Disney property, has a confirmed release date of May 1st, 2015. Disney will not be releasing Episode VII anywhere near that window because they’d just be stealing business from themselves. Tent pole movies tend to have long runs. The first Avengers movie was crushing lesser movies right up until The Dark Knight rises in late July. Disney could release Episode VII later in the summer just as Warner Brothers released The Dark Knight Rises late in the summer of 2012, but unlike the more mature Batman trilogy, Star Wars will need to capitalize on the youngsters. Late July does not leave a lot of summer left. Disney could delay until the holidays of 2015, but after shelling out billions, are they really going to wait over three years to start ringing the LFL cash register?

Exhibit B: J.J. Abrams is not committed to the 2015 release date

According to this report J.J. Abrams is not committed to 2015. But look very carefully at the quote:

“Episode VII is set for release in 2015, but sources say Abrams has not committed to that release date, meaning the date could be changed if the development process requires it.”

Note they said the date could be “changed”, not delayed. Usually people say “delay” when they mean “delay”. J.J Abrams is committed to Mission Impossible 5 in 2015 and also Star Trek 3 beyond that. It seems delaying Episode VII would cause more scheduling headaches than it would solve. However, accelerating Episode VII seems to work nicely into Abrams’ availability window. Next, Joss Whedon, a rabid Star Wars fan, wanted the directing gig for Episode VII, but his schedule conflict with Avengers 2 prevented him from helming the film. After having already made billions for Disney, how would he feel if Disney were willing to delay Episode VII for Abrams but not for him? Doesn’t seem to make sense. If the release date is in play, it sure seems like there is only one logical direction for it to move: up.

Exhibit C: The 3D Release of Episodes II and III were canceled to free up resource for Episode VII

What??? Movies that were supposed to be out in under a year (and one of them was originally supposed to be out NOW) and getting shelved to clear up resources for a movie that hasn’t even begun principal photography yet. On a scale of 1 to 10, that makes 0.0 sense to us. Maybe the real reason is the lackluster performance of Episode I 3D and that reasoning was a smoke screen. Maybe the folks at Disney are great humanitarians and they realize the Prequel Trilogy deserves the same fate as the Holiday Special. Or maybe they really do need the ILM modellers cranking on some new designs pronto.



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Maybe the real reason is the lackluster performance of Episode I 3D and that reasoning was a smoke screen. Maybe the folks at Disney are great humanitarians and they realize the Prequel Trilogy deserves the same fate as the Holiday Special.


Ah, the good old prequel bashing... :whateva:


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Sorry, CoGro, KK is now officially saying the time-table is "as long as it takes to get a good story". Would have been nice to see something soon, but all signs point to 'no'.


2017 makes way more sense for a release. Disney can use the 40th as a way to come out full force (no pun... kinda) and tell the world, "Star Wars is back" in a big way.

Side note: I went to a screening of Miyazaki's "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind" last night and it struck me how perfectly that film could work as a template for Episode VII. If you've seen the film just imagine the Lord Yupa character as a grizzled, old version of Luke.


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
Maybe the real reason is the lackluster performance of Episode I 3D and that reasoning was a smoke screen. Maybe the folks at Disney are great humanitarians and they realize the Prequel Trilogy deserves the same fate as the Holiday Special.

Alexrd wrote:
Ah, the good old prequel bashing... :whateva:


And here I thought people had grown up.. :what:


Post Posted: February 4th 2013 6:23 pm
 
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I thought about removing the prequels reference, but I didn’t want to censure the author’s thoughts. Let’s not refer to Star Wars as having a 40th anniversary. Presently, 35 years is hard to deal with. I don’t even want to think about 40. Just say that it was made in the late 70’s and let everyone do the math on their own.


Post Posted: February 4th 2013 11:54 pm
 
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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
I thought about removing the prequels reference, but I didn’t want to censure the author’s thoughts. Let’s not refer to Star Wars as having a 40th anniversary. Presently, 35 years is hard to deal with. I don’t even want to think about 40. Just say that it was made in the late 70’s and let everyone do the math on their own.


I don't think you have much to worry about. Disney's really good about not invoking the actual age of its properties while still celebrating and making note of anniversaries for long time fans.


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I would bet my life they don't push back the release date just to accommodate an anniversary. They'll want to get ROI ASAP.

Right now, Star Wars buzz is probably the highest it's been in nearly a decade. Arguably higher than it was during the latter part of the prequel run where Star Wars was wearing on the general public. Disney is too smart not to strike while the iron is hot.


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I don't think a delayed release date would be done to accomodate the anniversary alone but given the suggestion that they may not make the scheduled release year of 2015, what's another year? Abrams has a track record of delaying his own films in an effort to "get it right" (see: Star Trek). If they really wanted to knock these films out ASAP, why hire a somewhat-polarizing director with fairly high QC standards?

As far as Disney getting a return back on its investment, I have to imagine the mouse is going to do something with the brand before VII hits theaters.

There might be a lot of excitement over Star Wars in the fan/internet community right now but I get the impression the mainstream is rolling its eyes over all this news. Real interest won't begin to mount until Mark, Carrie and Harrison are confirmed for the films (and probably even pictured together at some press event). Even then it's going to be a bit of an uphill climb until that first trailer rolls around. Infighting and fan squabbles aside, I'm the first person to admit Star Wars is in dire need of reputation management if Disney wants it to be a cultural phenomena once more.


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Abrams has a track record of delaying his own films in an effort to "get it right" (see: Star Trek). If they really wanted to knock these films out ASAP, why hire a somewhat-polarizing director with fairly high QC standards?


Star Trek didn't have an iota of the hype that SW7 already has. It was nearly a dead franchise. He certainly wasn't under the pressure he is now to deliver on time.


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There might be a lot of excitement over Star Wars in the fan/internet community right now but I get the impression the mainstream is rolling its eyes over all this news. Real interest won't begin to mount until Mark, Carrie and Harrison are confirmed for the films (and probably even pictured together at some press event). Even then it's going to be a bit of an uphill climb until that first trailer rolls around. Infighting and fan squabbles aside, I'm the first person to admit Star Wars is in dire need of reputation management if Disney wants it to be a cultural phenomena once more.


I think you underestimate mainstream response to this. SW news coverage is prominent, if not headline stealing, in entertainment media right now. I'm seeing Star Wars news in local media like I haven't seen in years. Whether the people are "excited" or "optimistic" about the quality of the new films is another story. The fact is that it's building interest from people who usually don't give a shit. I believe JJ Abrams' involvement has spiked the interest of casual observers.


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Star Trek didn't have an iota of the hype that SW7 already has. It was nearly a dead franchise. He certainly wasn't under the pressure he is now to deliver on time.


I think Abrams is under greater pressure to deliver a quality film than just hit a release date. That said, I have a feeling we won't get Episode VII in 2015. If I'm wrong I'm wrong and you call me out on it when we're all here after the first midnight screening but let's not forgot that even Kennedy gave herself an out regarding the planned release.

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I think you underestimate mainstream response to this. SW news coverage is prominent, if not headline stealing, in entertainment media right now. I'm seeing Star Wars news in local media like I haven't seen in years. Whether the people are "excited" or "optimistic" about the quality of the new films is another story. The fact is that it's building interest from people who usually don't give a shit. I believe JJ Abrams' involvement has spiked the interest of casual observers.


No, I agree the coverage of this story is unprecedented in a post-Episode I era but I think it's a bit presumptuous to elevate such coverage to a genuine interest by the populous in an age when the nightly news looks more and more like TMZ and Entertainment Tonight everyday.


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If I'm wrong I'm wrong and you call me out on it when we're all here after the first midnight screening


Sold! I've been wrong on a bunch of stuff lately, so I'm really clinging onto this one for redemption.


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JJ talks about Wars.


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New Playboy interview with JJ:

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PLAYBOY: Nothing matters more to moviegoers than the stories and characters from Star Wars. In your wildest, geekiest fantasies, did you ever imagine yourself helming the two biggest sci-fi franchises in the universe?

ABRAMS: It is preposterous. Ridiculous. Completely insane. It really is.

PLAYBOY: Star Wars and Star Trek are church and state in Hollywood. Can you really be loyal to both? Star Trek fans cried out on Twitter that you were cheating on them.

ABRAMS: I mean, I get it. The worlds are vastly different. Honestly, that was why I passed on Star Wars to begin with. I couldn’t imagine doing both. But when I said that my loyalty was to Star Trek I was literally working on finishing this cut. I couldn’t even entertain another thought. It was like being on the most beautiful beach in the world and someone saying, “There’s this amazing mountain over here. Come take a look.” I couldn’t balance the two, so I passed on Star Wars.

PLAYBOY: What happened between saying no and saying yes?

ABRAMS: It was a wild time. I was near the light at the end of the tunnel with my work on Star Trek. I felt I needed a bit of a breather, actually. But then Kathleen Kennedy [the new Lucasfilm head who oversees Star Wars] called again. I’ve known her for years. We had a great conversation, and the idea of working with her on this suddenly went from being theoretical and easy to deny to being a real, tangible, thrilling possibility. In the end it was my wife, Katie, who said if it was something that really interested me, I had to consider it.

PLAYBOY: There’s much to discuss, such as the rumors of old cast members returning.

ABRAMS: [Smiles]

PLAYBOY: Will this be a distinct new trilogy?

ABRAMS: [Smiles]

PLAYBOY: Can you do away with Jar Jar Binks?

ABRAMS: You won’t like this answer, but it’s so early it would be insane to discuss details or get into plot points about what this unfilmed movie will be. And I’m not going to give my opinion on the original movies or characters.

PLAYBOY: But as a lifelong Star Wars fan, surely you have broad ideas about what needs to happen going forward. Three quarters of planet Earth came down on George Lucas for practically ruining Star Wars in Episode I. The Star Wars universe revolted.

ABRAMS: Here’s the thing. I try to approach a project from what it’s asking. What does it need to be? What is it demanding? With Star Wars, one has to take into account what has preceded it, what worked, what didn’t. There are cautionary tales for anything you take on that has a legacy—things you look at and think, I want to avoid this or that, or I want to do more of something. But even that feels like an outside-in approach, and it’s not how I work. For me, the key is when you have a script; it’s telling you what it wants to be.

PLAYBOY: Star Wars needs to look different from Star Trek, certainly.

ABRAMS: As with anything, because these are very different worlds, they shouldn’t feel the same aesthetically. They can’t. You’re right. But again, I don’t apply aesthetics first and fit a movie into that aesthetic. If I had come into Star Trek with those eyes, I would probably have been paralyzed. The advantage here is that we still have George Lucas with us to go to and ask questions and get his feedback on things, which I certainly will do. With Star Trek it was harder because I wasn’t a Star Trek fan; I didn’t have the same emotional feeling, and I didn’t have Gene Roddenberry to go to. But I came to understand the world of Star Trek, and I appreciated what fans felt and believed about this universe and this franchise.

PLAYBOY: As recently as last fall you said that directing a new Star Wars comes with a burden of “almost fatal sacrilege.” Do you feel that?

ABRAMS: I meant if I viewed this from a fan’s point of view—and no one’s a bigger Star Wars fan than I am—or from a legacy standpoint, it would scare the hell out of me. But instead of trying to climb this mountain in one giant leap, I’m just enjoying the opportunity and looking to the people I’m working with. I’ve known Kathy for years. I’ve worked with the screenwriter, Michael Arndt, for a long time. I’ve known George for a number of years and he’s now a friend. Even if this wasn’t Star Wars, I’d be enormously fortunate to work with them.

PLAYBOY: How much of your personal vision can you put on this?

ABRAMS: For me to talk to you about what the big themes or ideas are before they exist is disingenuous, but naturally I have a big say in how this gets put together. When I get involved with something, I own it and carry the responsibility of the job.


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Wow, the prequel bashing won't stop...

Basically, I only liked to read this:

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Also revealed at CinemaCon (unless it's being misinterpreted) is that the model starting in 2015 will be a new "Episode" every 2 years with a standalone in between. So that:

2015 - Episode VII

2016 - Stand alone

2017 - Episode VIII

2018 - Stand alone

2019 - Episode IX

Don't know if I like this. I believe it dilutes the product to have too much Star Wars and I definitely don't think 2 years is enough room between episodes.


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Wrong thread.


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CoGro wrote:
Don't know if I like this. I believe it dilutes the product to have too much Star Wars and I definitely don't think 2 years is enough room between episodes.


I agree. Let's hope the standalone films are not in the same time frame as the "episodes".


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CoGro wrote:
Also revealed at CinemaCon (unless it's being misinterpreted) is that the model starting in 2015 will be a new "Episode" every 2 years with a standalone in between. So that:

2015 - Episode VII
2016 - Stand alone
2017 - Episode VIII
2018 - Stand alone
2019 - Episode IX
2020 - Stand alone

Don't know if I like this. I believe it dilutes the product to have too much Star Wars and I definitely don't think 2 years is enough room between episodes.


I disagree - Disney stated at CinemaCon that they want to mirror the "Marvel Universe" method of delivering product. Marvel releases 3+ movies a year in their universe. I certainly think that Star Wars has more than enough depth to facilitate 1 a year. Plus, for all us collectors, think of all the new toys.


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...and I definitely don't think 2 years is enough room between episodes.


From a marketing and production standpoint, if anyone can pull it off it's Disney.



Have you guys seen Patton Oswalt's Episode VII filibuster from Parks and Recreation? Genius.


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Let's hope the standalone films are not in the same time frame as the "episodes".

I also agree that the the standalone films should be in a different time frame than the ST. However, I think these first three movies should all be set in the same time frame (for instance the time between 3 and 4).

In this manner, there would be some type of continuity. Plus, it gives the writers a chance to weave a fourth narrative within the three films. For instance, in the first standalone film, Obi-wan could show up and introduce a subplot. In the second film, he would popup again and move subplot further along. In the final standalone, he would resolve the narrative.

This might be a nice gimmick to get audiences coming back even though the three movies are separate entities.

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Have you guys seen Patton Oswalt's Episode VII filibuster from Parks and Recreation? Genius.

There should be no "second tier" heroes in the Avengers yet his second choice for the team is Moon Knight. Funny stuff.


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JJA on the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22364373


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JJ Abrams talks about Star Wars with Simon Pegg:



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The prevailing wisdom seems to be that Disney is trying like hell to get people like the OT.com bunch back in a Star Wars jersey. After seeing that video, yeah, I believe it.


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Interesting:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=79686

Brad Bird: I’ve known Kathy [Kennedy] for a while and I know George. And they did come to me. But the problem was, the schedule they had in mind made it impossible to do…unless I dropped Tomorrowland. And I was just really deeply into this film at that point. It’s easy to say, “Just put it on hold.” But you’re moving now; you don’t know if you’re going to be able to move later. Maybe it’s true of filmmakers like Cameron or Spielberg, but I have to act on momentum. We had reached a critical mass where it would’ve thrown the furniture around from the train stopping. I really want to see this movie. I love the Star Wars films, and I can’t wait to see what J.J. does, but it meant I’d have to shut down one dream to participate in another. I feel like [with Tomorrowland] we’re making something that’s really special and unique.


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Hopefully he's available for VIII or IX.


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Episodes 8 and 9 are Abram's films to lose. Barring a major flop with 7, I don't see Disney switching directors.

It seems more likely that Bird would direct one of the standalones. Or maybe, he'll come-up with his own Star Wars stories to film after the six current productions are completed.


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He could always do a CGI thing set in the Clone Wars era.

Oh wait...


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this is pretty fascinating:

JJ Abrams "grand ambitions" re: Star Trek thwarted

The whole thing's worth a read, but this stuff is most relevant to us:
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Moreover, Willenson notes that Abrams, who has a deal that is believed to include creative and profit participation in "Star Wars" inspired merchandise and spin-offs, will have more control in shaping the legacy of the Skywalker clan than he would have had with developing side projects for the "Star Trek" crew.


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As for Disney's grand "Star Wars" plan, it's sounding an awful lot like the one Abrams once envisioned for "Star Trek." There will be television properties, theme park rides and spin-off films all centered around the new trilogy that Abrams will oversee.

It's a page borrowed from Disney's exploitation of the Marvel comic books and if it works out, it should make Abrams very rich indeed.


The bits in that article about him wanting to curtail further production of original cast Trek merchandise in favor of stuff from his version makes me think that we might as well enjoy all those year-and-a-half-old TPM figures clogging the pegs while we still can... :meatwad:


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will have more control in shaping the legacy of the Skywalker clan


Is "the Skywalker clan" a reference to Star Wars or are they saying that he'll have direct control over what happen in-universe to the Skywalkers? If the latter, I don't like it.


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I don't know if I like it or not. But if I don't it's mainly because other than aged Luke, or maybe an insane forcefreak offspring who goes apeshit Akira-style (Tetsuo Skywalker even), I am kind of almost maybe sick of hearing about Lucas' version of his slightly muddled Skywalker family historical narrative. Not only are they not sacred tales to me, they aren't really even interesting enough to keep going back to. The real meat of the Star Wars universe exists in the 'Universe' itself. Not strictly in the story we have already been presented. So I am sort of hoping it doesn't factor in, this Skywalker family curse (to bog down the story with ridiculous galaxy spanning coincidences), and that if they do use that crutch they do it in a new and interesting way.

The Skywalker story has it's place in what we have been shown in the pre-dis SW era. The post-Lucas films should give us something new to feel just as attached to, something unpredictably intelligent. Otherwise, that well is going to dry up by Episode 8.

Ummm...."television properties (check), theme park rides and spin-off films (check)". Wait, theme park rides? Star Tours is bitchin and the 3D is pretty tight (and I kind of hate most 3D tech these days), but I have been wondering when or if any new rides had been announced yet. The inclusion of the new director in a seemingly distanced element like a theme park ride just seems odd, unless it factors into something radically departed from what already exists.

Basically, reading into all of these tidbits with my rose colored glasses has me geeked the fuck up. All of the thumbs-ups the new Trek film is getting kind of has me stoked as well. Word.


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Star Trek costume designer Michael Kaplan on board for Star Wars 7

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anyone else hearing johnathan rhys meyers being involved?


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anyone else hearing johnathan rhys meyers being involved?


Yup:

http://latino-review.com/2013/05/20/exc ... isode-vii/


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