Hate it.

Why they didn't go with the design at the top of this page is beyond me.

Raimi is a dork.

That's Venom? Looks more like a bad fan costume of what the actual character should have looked like. And is it just me or is the head on that figure kind of oddly proportioned to the body? Might just be my vision clouding over from the scent of bullshit that could have been a great summer movie.

As soon as I saw that Sideshow figure, I was hoping the figure was a mis-representation of Venom as he appears in the film; kind of like when Kenner released the vintage Jedi Luke figure with a blue lightsaber when the blade was changed to green in post production, and the toy was later corrected. I hope this was based on a prototype design that was thrown out in favor of this:



If it's not then, well, wow. I have a strong feeling the Sideshow's the real deal.

How that toy design was selected over the above design is not just baffling, it's mentally retarded.

I loathe these films more and more simply because of the wasted ideas and poor decisions made by the film's overrated director.

SideShowToys.com took down the Medicom RAH prototypes

Spider-Man I & II were good films for their time just as the Burton Batman films were for the late 80's, early 90's. Spider-Man was the anti-Star Wars - Lord of the Rings - Harry Potter and was a alternative for movie-goers. Despite being a Super-Hero film, people identified with Raimi's characters. The films were relationship heavy which made for a good date movie and people were moved by some of the emotional scenes such as the R.E.M crowd surfing sequence.

However there were crimes committed against acting in them particularly by Aunt "My Eyes!" May and the costumed Spider-Man. We are used to Spider-Man yukking it up and issuing zing bombs against the villians. There are no memorable one-liners from the suited Spider-Man from the moves so far...

and don't get me started on the mentos-foo fighters Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head sequence

what the fuck are you talking about DP? you've been smoking the again haven't ya?


I'm going out on a limb and predict this isn't the final venom form. I'm thinking it's actually spiderman right before the bell tower sequence where he shreads the suit off. He's got to have a reason to think it's the suit causing him to act all mental and go all roid rage on everyone. we'll see. Remember, they got Dr. Oct pretty damn close in the last one. Sandman is dead on. Have patience, young padawan!

I'm pretty sure that isn't a Peter Parker having a moment figure. But it could be. If so, and Mr Vomit is correct, I'll be relieved.

It looks like these misguided villian designs have taken away the excitement and anticipation a lot of people had for this film. I guess there still might be hope that they hear people vomiting thus far and change some things before it comes out. I'm not holding my breath, however.

At least there is still one thing to look forward to this summer. Half naked womens.

We can always look forward to that Mr. Oblix.

Anyway, I see no reason to get up in arms about a toy. This isn't like footage from the movie or even a screen capture. For all we know, the people at Medi com or whatever haven't even seen Venom in the movie and might be going by a written summary of the character. Besides, going a little different with the look of a character isn't always bad. I mean it didn't seem to make a difference with the X-Men movies that they didn't use the actual comic book costumes. I'm sticking with the impression that the trailers and synopsis have left us with at this point: That Venom is not a main villain in this movie. From what all we know, he isn't in the movie for more than 5 minutes. The main villains seem to be first Harry Goblin and then Sandman. For Peter Parker to go from romance with MJ to fighting Harry into a coma, to the Sandman backstory, to fighting Sandman once, to getting the black suit, to Peter's personal life going to shit, to fighting Sandman again, to fighting off the black suit doesn't leave a lot of time for the Venom character. Unless this turns into a 4 hour movie. I always say wait until the final couple of weeks before the movie premieres before we get into what they did wrong with a movie. We haven't seen shit of the Venom character on film and we don't know anything about it.

Also, let's not forget that Eddie Brock is being played by Topher Grace who is nothing like the Eddie Brock of the comics. And I haven't heard any one complain about that decision. The toy from above looks more like Venom would look if it were around a smaller person. More like the Carnage symbiote in terms of physical mass.

I complained about Topher. Terrible cast.

Then again, the whole cast is terrible.

Topher crying in the church is a total bastardization of the Eddie Brock character.

I agree, Brock was a big 'roids behemoth in the comics. So Venom was huge too. This is what happens when you're more concerned about increasing the box office/market take more than staying true to the source material.

The Venom from Marvel vs. Capcom was closer than this shit.

Yes because we all know that guys that are behemoths sure can act. Tyler Mane, Arnold Schwarzenegger?

I like that change. To make Eddie Brock more connected to Peter Parker in physical appearance. I mean, you already have Flash Thompson and John Jameson who are physically gifted counterparts. Now you bring in a guy who is more a long the lines of Peter Parker but this guy has more of the evil side that Parker has never had.

The fact is, unless you are making an animated Superhero movie, nothing is going to be absolutely like the comic books. At least when we are talking about superpowers, which leaves Batman Begins out.

Then again, I was happy with the first two movies. I thought they were different in that they wanted to focus more on Peter Parker trying to hold on to his personal life when the "responsibility" he feels is pulling him to the point of breaking. I love that. I hope we see more of it in 3.

I agree. I never did take to the Brock character in the books, but the casting of a physically similar Eddie to Maguire's Peter Parker is an interesting move on Raimi's part.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spiderman3/site/

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hmm...

Hey its Green Arrow from Smallville!

http://www.sequart.com/greenarrow/poster.jpg

I dunno', the more I see the "Harry snowboarder-x-goblin" the less I hate it. Sure, it's so far from the comics version of any goblin that it seems out of place for this movie, but it looks pretty neat. If that facemask and body armor is made of the next-gen kevlar I might be wearing something similar when I become a super-criminal.

Comic books: movies :: apples: oranges

Gee, thanks for pointing that out. Now I feel like in idiot for ever questioning a film-makers deviations from the source material (even if for no other reasons than illustrating thier own "creative" ineptness).

Which all in all does make me think. Would people prefer to watch a movie "based-on" a comic-book franchise, or a literal re-creation of that comic series with live actors? Comic franchises are unlike other book-into-movie scenarios because other types of fiction are so open to interpretation. With a comic-book movie so many of the elements have allready been visually introduced it's difficult for fans of the original to accept some of the changes that get made. In this particular case I think the reason people think it's all looking like shit is that the extreme deviations seem so un-neccesary. If they want to change shit because its a) going to be far too expensive to show properly, or 2) going to be too time consuming to show the story as original written, then it makes sense.

For example, the symbiote suit. The story changes made to explain it's existence are acceptable. The fact that it looks totally unlike the black symbiote suit from the comics is however, disappointing.

So basically what I'm getting at is:

Fixed.

David Koepp in talks to start writing Spider-Man 4?!?!??!

Very strange. First of all, Sony is starting the writing ball rolling after a rough cut of Spider-Man 3. A movie written by Sam and Ivan Raimi with a screenplay by Alvin Sargeant. My first question is: if Spider-Man 3 looks so good, why hire a writer (other than Sam and Ivan) to come in for 4? David Koepp hasn't been involved in this franchise since the original Spider-Man. My second question is: has Sam Raimi already told Sony he won't be back for another movie? And if so, does that mean Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst are out?

I know a lot of you here are not very happy with the Raimi Spider-Man but I am. I think they are right up there with Batman Begins and X2 for comic movies. They have brought in unbelievable box office and have helped other comic book movies get made in the process. X-men and Spider-Man made comic book movies a viable option in Hollywood again. And I can't see this franchise go on in the current form without Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire involved.

Either way, it looks as though the studio is very happy with the third installment if they are on the fast track to getting a fourth movie written. What are your thoughts?

I think it depends on who the people are. Average Joe's who aren't familiar with the books won't care either way. Of course, fans will (see: this thread).

I guess I'm just saying it's not that huge of a deal, since Raimi is stretching his creative license as far as possible, and he really has the right to, since it's his movie.

I guess in the grand scheme of things, life-the universe-and everything, no it isn't a big deal. I just wanted tougher looking villians.

Oh and if they make a Spiderman 4 without Toby Maguire, it will be the opposite effect of when they got the new, lousy, seemingly drunk Dumbledore in Harry Potter. I always thought Mr Maguire looked a little too Special-Ed in the face for the role. But what the fuck do I know, it's all better than the Spiderman movies I've been producing lately so maybe they are on to something.

I'll still go see it and buy it on dvd. And I'll probably still be bitching about it.

They got your money, and that's all that matters. Sounds harsh, but that's how these execs think. Look at Star Wars fans. Bitching CONSTANTLY, but at the end of the day they are still going to the movies so who has the last laugh? You, or Lucas (or Raimi in this case)?

I'm including this link from Aint it Cool. It isn't a lot of extra footage, but it does have Raimi and cast talking about SM3 and what to expect. I do like the scenes that show a little more into the rivalry between Peter Parker and Eddie Brock.

Spider-Man 3 behind the scenes

I have a bad feeling that Venom will disappoint.

But I'm looking forward to it. That's saying something since I'm not a big fan of the first two. I did think the second one was a lot better than the first one though.

And I like Church. I think he'll be very good.

Incase someone hasn't seen this yet:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=19105

^^ we gotta grab that thing ASAP and uploaded elsewhere as soon as its available, i have a feeling the NBC site wouldn't know the true meaning of "hits" until the Spidey 3 clip airs

New pic from comingsoon.net

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=19150

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picture paints a thousand words thanks Hypertext!

btw, does anybody know if they're gonna show Spidey3 on IMAX? i saw what they did for Superman Returns, and that was last year, i can imagine the possibilities for Spidey.

The NBC footage didn't really do much for me. The fight between Harry and Peter was comically bad, no pun intended.

I'll still see it.

Spiderman3_480p_4000kbps

Is this the extended clip that's on NBC's site?

Edit: Yup same clip, by the way I found nothing wrong with the fight between Harry and Peter...

Has somebody leaked this trailer yet?
IGN

After seeing the 6 minute preview, I'm not sure I hate the x-goblin as much as I thought I would. He seems more dangerous than his old man did in the first. The SM1 mecho-goblin did make me lol more than I'm sure it was supposed to, though.

If the rest of the movie is as good as the preview, at least the action scenes will be exciting. I'm still not a fan of the leads acting 'skillz', however.

that's a huge file man

New artwork and onset costume images. Mostly Venom and then Sandman. I got this at Ain't it cool

yup, that's the Venom I remember. Good job, they have my money now.

Indeed. I'm glad they're making Venom like what we remember in the comics and in the animated series. I think this movie is gonna be kick ass probably the best of the three.

Yeah, I think the look of the medicom Venom made me worry. Now, not so much. Not about that anyways.

It won't be tough to make it the best of the three....

i'd still like for Venom to have the white spider

very cool pics! cant wait!

Nice pics, I was actually just about to post them. I saw them here...

http://www.filmwad.com/venom-art--1844-p.html

Excuse my ignorance, but since watching that preview on NBC, can we assume that Harry makes an appearance at the beginning (and that's all) and the middle focuses on Sandman, and in the final act we get Venom? Is that a safe assumption?

By the way, I was told by a co-worker that read an article that Tobey isn't doing anymore Spider-man's but Raimi didn't say he was done? Can someone confirm or deny that with the article where the above was said or any other news article?

New Trailer came out with 300 (which was awesome)....it's basically the wondercon trailer people have been talking about.

It was short, but centred on Venom...it was pretty good, but nothing dazzling.

Should be online soon.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1en6u_spiderman3


Somebody recorded it with their camera phone. Not me.

http://www.dvdrama.com/galerie/spider_man_3_/

Cool pictures. Love the one with Venom choking Spidey with his web.

The Venom pic is the most encouraging part of SM3 I've seen..

cool! so there's gonna be a fight sequence between Spidey and Venom

Nice find man! Can't wait for this movie to come out. They are showing it on the Imax thats about 20 minutes from my apt. Gonna kick major butt.