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Is there any hope these are early versions, well done fan-edits or WIP's?

So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..."

Maybe he can fucking fly out.

Well, the obvious motivation for Lucas here is to make sure that the ROTS scene and the ROTJ scene "rhyme".

Can they now add Ric Olie in at that point too? He could run in and say: "Darth Vader has turned against his master - I guess he did love his son after all!"

This whole thread reminds me a lot of the "NSync in AOTC" fiasco of New Year's 2002...

THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT ROCKS IN FRONT OF R-2 AND HAVE JEJ SCREAM NOO000O SIMPLY DIDNT EXIST IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S!

NOW THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY VADER CAN SCREAM LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT AND EWOKS CAN BLINK LIKE GORNS FROM STAR TREK.

Step away from the computer and go outside before you explode. Oh wait, too late. Seriously typing in all caps just shows you're a fucking idiot.

BTW Jeff Bond, who has done a lot of liner notes for the limited edition score releases has confirmed that these changes ARE real. He has a friend who has connections in Lucasfilm and he got confirmation on them.

This is just damn irritating to know that Lucas once again has done minuscule changes like this to the films. If these get re-released again on Blu-Ray later down the road I bet things will once again get changed. Adding the "No" and "Noooo!" to the Luke and Emperor scene just totally kills the mood for that sequence, quite literally.

I'm still going to be getting these but god damn it Lucas, enough is enough!

the clip is the facebook link posted above

SEE! Denial. it's ok man. just let it all out.

Forgive this question but: does this mean the footage is real or fake?

You should download and see them for yoursell - that is the MF way.

Sorry if I came off as testy Clone Wars friend.

Everything that you are seeing is real and final from the BLURay Box Set and that you should download and see for yourself.

Because that is the MF way. :funkyall:

I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously?

Okay, Duke, try it this way: wouldn't you LOVE to find out in a day or so that LFL has ben fucking with the inevitable early leak pirates? See how seductive it is to think maybe, just maybe these are bullshit? Can't buy into it sadly, but wouldn't it be nice?

I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously?

Well the "Nooo" is the ROTS "Nooo" with a filter thrown on it. That's easy to do. The eyes...well Adywan managed to animate the eyes of several aliens in his ANH edit and the pan can be done in Final Cut without much hassle.

This is my very first post here ... better make it a good one.

Something just occurred to me about the whole real vs fake thing.

If it is an elaborate hoax by a fan editor, using the HDTV broadcasts or something, wouldn't that glitch thing still be there? What is it again? Humdinger glitch? I'm sure you know the one I mean. Or is that something that's easy to get rid of? If not, maybe somebody could check to see if it's present and accounted for.

LFL made a point of saying they removed it after it was pointed out at Comic Con so it's presence or lack thereof could go a long way towards proving or disproving the legitimacy of the leak.

It wasn't a fabrication, but the WTC did shoot first.

Author:	jasperjones [ August 30th 2011 7:01 am ]
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Is there any hope these are early versions, well done fan-edits or WIP's?

Author:	Alexrd [ August 30th 2011 7:13 am ]
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jasperjones wrote: Is there any hope these are early versions, well done fan-edits or WIP's? I'm hoping for that.

Author:	Topeka [ August 30th 2011 7:17 am ]
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Considering they came from Asia, not likely.

Author:	bearvomit [ August 30th 2011 6:12 pm ]
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"GreenGreatWarrior" synched up the "NOOOoooo" audio taken from MF here and attached it to video of the scene. Again, the video is NOT from the blu-ray. The audio is from the blu-ray taken from here - MF. NOOOOooooo is now Vader's new catchphrase

Author:	Bandersnatch [ August 30th 2011 6:48 pm ]
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So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..."

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Author:	Ascovel [ August 30th 2011 6:54 pm ]
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Bandersnatch wrote: So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..." Maybe he cuts the rocks using his four hidden lightsabers in a homage to that Obi-Wan welcoming Grievous scene. Anyway, I'm really curious how he gets out of there.

Author:	Tito [ August 30th 2011 7:53 pm ]
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Bandersnatch wrote: So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..." Don't forget about the smoke and soot from such a blast! This is too funny. I'm going on record: this is a prank. I would love to find out that this was orchestrated by Seth Green. Kind of sounds like him doing the Krayt dragon. Keep hope alive people.

Author:	Inv8r [ August 30th 2011 7:58 pm ]
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Bandersnatch wrote: So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..." Maybe he can fucking fly out.

Author:	Tito [ August 30th 2011 8:00 pm ]
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Bandersnatch wrote: So now R2 has to blast his way out of those rocks when Ben says, "Come here my little friend..." Inv8r wrote: Maybe he can fucking fly out. BUWHAHAHAHAHAHA - tears - sniff - keep em coming. Ascovel wrote: Well, the obvious motivation for Lucas here is to make sure that the ROTS scene and the ROTJ scene "rhyme". Of course! Cause you know its like poetry Treadwell wrote: Can they now add Ric Olie in at that point too? He could run in and say: "Darth Vader has turned against his master - I guess he did love his son after all!" Oh please God yes. YES! Fucking hilarious. You sir have the win!

Author:	501ST [ August 30th 2011 8:25 pm ]
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These are faked or real?

Author:	Raveers [ August 30th 2011 8:58 pm ]
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There are some people on Aint It Cool News that say these might have been faked to rial people up. I mean it's very possible they could have been but at the same time I wouldn't put it past Lucas to make these type of changes. The "No" and "Nooooo" do sound very identical to the ROTS version. I'm sure it wouldn't have been difficult for someone else to edit the audio in at those points.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 9:09 pm ]
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LFL has released an official comment regarding the recent leaks... LFL Rep: "U mad?"

Author:	User897 [ August 30th 2011 9:20 pm ]
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OMFG. These "leaks" had better be a goddamn joke. I'm hoping some Japs with After Effects are having a laugh at our expense.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 9:26 pm ]
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THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT ROCKS IN FRONT OF R-2 AND HAVE JEJ SCREAM NOO000O SIMPLY DIDNT EXIST IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S! NOW THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY VADER CAN SCREAM LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT AND EWOKS CAN BLINK LIKE GORNS FROM STAR TREK.

Author:	Emperor's Prize [ August 30th 2011 9:27 pm ]
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501ST wrote: These are faked or real? Based on the apoplectic comments here, I really, really, REALLY want all of this to be fake. That'd be effing hilarious.

Author:	bearvomit [ August 30th 2011 9:53 pm ]
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we have left the blind raging fury stage and are now entering the denial stage. soon to be followed by drowning our sorrows with Jack stage.

Author:	Inv8r [ August 30th 2011 9:56 pm ]
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Wait, wait. ...I was at work all day and haven't had time to finish going through the "giggling insanely at the bizarro nature of this poo-poo" stage yet, let me catch up, I don't want to miss the Jack stage.

Author:	vadakin [ August 30th 2011 11:43 pm ]
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If it turns out to be fake, you know George is sitting at his computer laughing his ass off. If it turns out to be real, you know George is sitting at his computer laughing his ass off. Either way his daughter is an MMA fighter so don't mess with him.

Author:	royalguard96 [ August 30th 2011 9:29 pm ]
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This whole thread reminds me a lot of the "NSync in AOTC" fiasco of New Year's 2002...

Author:	Raveers [ August 30th 2011 9:31 pm ]
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royalguard96 wrote: This whole thread reminds me a lot of the "NSync in AOTC" fiasco of New Year's 2002... Haha, I remember that shit too. sw4dummies wrote: THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT ROCKS IN FRONT OF R-2 AND HAVE JEJ SCREAM NOO000O SIMPLY DIDNT EXIST IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S! NOW THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY VADER CAN SCREAM LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT AND EWOKS CAN BLINK LIKE GORNS FROM STAR TREK. Step away from the computer and go outside before you explode. Oh wait, too late. Seriously typing in all caps just shows you're a fucking idiot. BTW Jeff Bond, who has done a lot of liner notes for the limited edition score releases has confirmed that these changes ARE real. He has a friend who has connections in Lucasfilm and he got confirmation on them. This is just damn irritating to know that Lucas once again has done minuscule changes like this to the films. If these get re-released again on Blu-Ray later down the road I bet things will once again get changed. Adding the "No" and "Noooo!" to the Luke and Emperor scene just totally kills the mood for that sequence, quite literally. I'm still going to be getting these but god damn it Lucas, enough is enough!

Author:	501ST [ August 30th 2011 9:35 pm ]
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Note by the uploader explains?

Author:	darthpsychotic [ August 30th 2011 9:38 pm ]
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Realizing that there are going to be stragglers who are late to the party - we just want to to get you up to speed as fast as possible so you can issue death threats against "Luca$" like else everyone is... THE RIPS ARE REAL FINAL PRODUCT The audio came from this thread and is sourced from the BluRay There is now actual video from the BluRay because the BluRayRips are now online.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 10:07 pm ]
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sw4dummies wrote: THE TECHNOLOGY TO PUT ROCKS IN FRONT OF R-2 AND HAVE JEJ SCREAM NOO000O SIMPLY DIDNT EXIST IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S! NOW THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY VADER CAN SCREAM LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT AND EWOKS CAN BLINK LIKE GORNS FROM STAR TREK. Raveers wrote: Step away from the computer and go outside before you explode. Oh wait, too late. Seriously typing in all caps just shows you're a fucking idiot. BTW Jeff Bond, who has done a lot of liner notes for the limited edition score releases has confirmed that these changes ARE real. He has a friend who has connections in Lucasfilm and he got confirmation on them. This is just damn irritating to know that Lucas once again has done minuscule changes like this to the films. If these get re-released again on Blu-Ray later down the road I bet things will once again get changed. Adding the "No" and "Noooo!" to the Luke and Emperor scene just totally kills the mood for that sequence, quite literally. I'm still going to be getting these but god damn it Lucas, enough is enough! Hey fuck you scumbag it was just a joke ... you know, like your life! "I'm still going to be getting these but god damn it Lucas, enough is enough!" I think the real idiot is the one who spends a dime to support this release. Enjoy your caved in R-2, retarded Vader and insane krayt call.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 10:14 pm ]
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bearvomit wrote: the clip is the facebook link posted above fake

Author:	bearvomit [ August 30th 2011 10:14 pm ]
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sw4dummies wrote: fake SEE! Denial. it's ok man. just let it all out.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 10:16 pm ]
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bearvomit wrote: SEE! Denial. it's ok man. just let it all out. well man -- I hope it is fake cuz its all kinds of fucking stupid. the more news we hear the worse it gets.

Author:	darthpsychotic [ August 30th 2011 10:30 pm ]
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501ST wrote: Forgive this question but: does this mean the footage is real or fake? Sorry if I came off as testy Clone Wars friend. Everything that you are seeing is real and final from the BLURay Box Set and that you should download and see for yourself. Because that is the MF way.

Author:	Raveers [ August 30th 2011 10:31 pm ]
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darthpsychotic wrote: You should download and see them for yoursell - that is the MF way. Indeed.

Author:	501ST [ August 30th 2011 10:39 pm ]
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darthpsychotic wrote: Sorry if I came off as testy Clone Wars friend. Everything that you are seeing is real and final from the BLURay Box Set and that you should download and see for yourself. Because that is the MF way. Not at all, I appreciate the reply and now understand, just wasn't too sure on it and wanted to clarify. Thanks again

Author:	vadakin [ August 30th 2011 10:56 pm ]
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This is my very first post here ... better make it a good one. Something just occurred to me about the whole real vs fake thing. If it is an elaborate hoax by a fan editor, using the HDTV broadcasts or something, wouldn't that glitch thing still be there? What is it again? Humdinger glitch? I'm sure you know the one I mean. Or is that something that's easy to get rid of? If not, maybe somebody could check to see if it's present and accounted for. LFL made a point of saying they removed it after it was pointed out at Comic Con so it's presence or lack thereof could go a long way towards proving or disproving the legitimacy of the leak.

Author:	Duke [ August 30th 2011 11:07 pm ]
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I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously?

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 11:11 pm ]
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have you never seen a fan edit?

Author:	Inv8r [ August 30th 2011 11:12 pm ]
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Duke wrote: I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously? Okay, Duke, try it this way: wouldn't you LOVE to find out in a day or so that LFL has ben fucking with the inevitable early leak pirates? See how seductive it is to think maybe, just maybe these are bullshit? Can't buy into it sadly, but wouldn't it be nice?

Author:	vadakin [ August 30th 2011 11:14 pm ]
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Duke wrote: I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously? Well the "Nooo" is the ROTS "Nooo" with a filter thrown on it. That's easy to do. The eyes...well Adywan managed to animate the eyes of several aliens in his ANH edit and the pan can be done in Final Cut without much hassle. The Dug and the rocks would certainly be more complicated but not beyond the realms of possibility. It's also interesting that there's no PT leak. We know for a fact that Yoda is a cg character in TPM and for a hoaxer to do that would definitely be too much and there's the framing issue for TPM to consider. So if the leak is fake, that may explain why there's no sign of the PT as of yet. I'm actually leaning towards a hoax myself but I'm not committing one way or another. It could be real. It probably is and I don't want to admit it but it's certainly not impossible for a hoaxer to accomplish.

Author:	sw4dummies [ August 30th 2011 11:16 pm ]
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God I hope its fake

Author:	Duke [ August 30th 2011 11:18 pm ]
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Inv8r wrote: Okay, Duke, try it this way: wouldn't you LOVE to find out in a day or so that LFL has ben fucking with the inevitable early leak pirates? See how seductive it is to think maybe, just maybe these are bullshit? Can't buy into it sadly, but wouldn't it be nice? Yeah, It indeed would be nice. Then again, it is pretty unlikely scenario. Most likely CHD got retail version early to their hands. It was stated few days ago that retailers have started getting these to their stocks.

Author:	Verboten [ August 30th 2011 11:20 pm ]
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Deja Vu

Author:	Inv8r [ August 30th 2011 11:51 pm ]
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Duke wrote: I don't really get this "fake vs. real" discussion. Someone seriously thinks all that could be faked? Seriously? vadakin wrote: Well the "Nooo" is the ROTS "Nooo" with a filter thrown on it. That's easy to do. The eyes...well Adywan managed to animate the eyes of several aliens in his ANH edit and the pan can be done in Final Cut without much hassle. What Ady did with the cantina creatures was totally different to what we're seeing here. He used an animated deform to pinch and pull the image into blinks. What we're seeing here is a new digital eye created and tracked into the shot (notice I said "shot" - from that clip I'm not convinced it's been done across every Ewok shot, not even within that one sequence. It looks to me like it's missing in most of the shots which make it up). Harder to do, and honestly I think the tracking job on what has been done there is very nice, but as I said, do-able. But why? It's just going to get debunked in a day or so if i's a fake.