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Post Posted: December 7th 2004 8:03 pm
 

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I guess theres a new War of the Worlds movie in the works, currently being filmed now, starring Tom Cruise being directed by Speilberg.

http://www.waroftheworlds.com

most of the pics currently out appear to just be Tom Cruise and Speilberg talking and stuff.


Post Posted: December 8th 2004 1:02 am
 
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Another constipated-Tom Cruise movie. Oh goodie. :roll:


Post Posted: December 10th 2004 11:33 pm
 

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Given Cruise's "religious" beliefs, I'm guessing this is going to have a lot more in common with Battlefield Earth than it does the Wells original.


Post Posted: December 11th 2004 2:11 am
 
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Is it supposed to follow the storyline of the original? Because since Hollywood has run out of new stories, I've noticed them grabbing old sci-fi that still has copyright and adapting them enough to get away with not having to buy the rights straight up. So you have "I, Robot" starring Jiggy Smith and "based on the story by Isaac Asimov" and notmreally having anything to do with the original story except 1 or 2 fundamental points.

Is this film "based on HG Well's classic story"? If so, look for single father and renowned virologist Tom Cruise to see the green jets on Mars while stargazing in the backyard on a weekend visit with his son, he'll try to notify the authrorities that something is up dammit and his black friend at the Bureau will label him "distrubed since his marriage broke down" but Tom won't bow to their stuffy rules. He'll try to warn the world and hijack a Martian walker at some point to save his kids then save the day by infecting the Matrians with mutated strains of Ebola or some bullshit. But at what price?

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The trailer is interesting. The opening monologue is actually from the book I think, just a bit updated. I can take or leave Cruise, but Speilberg's involvement is promising.

And I think the people heading into the dangerous streets with kids in tow was done for dramatic reasons cause it's just a movie.


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I_Shot_JR wrote:
The trailer is interesting. The opening monologue is actually from the book I think, just a bit updated. I can take or leave Cruise, but Speilberg's involvement is promising.

And I think the people heading into the dangerous streets with kids in tow was done for dramatic reasons cause it's just a movie.


Spielberg hasn't made a good movie since Saving Private Ryan.


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Agreed.


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I_Shot_JR wrote:
The trailer is interesting. The opening monologue is actually from the book I think, just a bit updated. I can take or leave Cruise, but Speilberg's involvement is promising.

And I think the people heading into the dangerous streets with kids in tow was done for dramatic reasons cause it's just a movie.

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Spielberg hasn't made a good movie since Saving Private Ryan.


Sure he has, you just don't know about them. We stopped exporting the good stuff to Canada years ago.


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Anyone else think the voice over at the beginning of the trailer was really lacklustre? Just didn't pull me in. Listen to the same thing on Jeff Wayne's musical version... and the delivery is so much better.

I'm not that excited about this. As has been previously said, it just looks like another classic sci-fi story turned, via the wonderful process of 're-imagining' into a typical Hollywood action flick. Somehow I can't see the martians kicking themselves in the foot in this version.

It does have Dakota Fanning in it... and she was excellent in 'Taken'. I look forward to her performance. She might be a saving grace.


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I really dug Catch Me If You Can.

I think this film has potential. I love the teaser. But it doesn't tell me if the film will be good or not. I'm not even sure if those scenes are part of the movie.


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Yes, and EotS was the first film I saw Christian Bale in.


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mcdermd wrote:
Yes, and EotS was the first film I saw Christian Bale in.


Um, wasn't it the first film anybody saw Christian Bale in?


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I'm sure there's many who's first exposure to Bale was American Psycho and many more whose first will be Batman Beyond.


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I really truly enjoyed AI. It had some of the best acting I've ever seen, and the visuals were amazing. I cried so much while I was watching it.

Minority Report gave me a headache with its colour scheme, and the plot was very predictable. In any sort of suspense thriller the criminal mastermind always turns out to be the older, fatherly mentor the hero thought he could trust.


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I'm glad the aliens took out those trees first, because from a certain angle it looked like they were about to attack.


Post Posted: March 18th 2005 9:42 pm
 

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Nice trailer. The clips used in this one leaned more towards SIGNS then ID4. Should be interesting.


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Click here to see the latest War Of The Worlds trailer! The REAL War Of The Worlds. ;)

Oh, and Tom "Scientology Church" Cruise sucks IMO. The last movie with that horrible actor I've seen in a theater must have been Top Gun in 1986 - no wait, Rain Man in 1988.


EDIT:

And there is another new War Of The Worlds movie out there on DVD, called "Invasion". It is a low budget production, but the FX and the acting look solid!


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New TV to War of the Worlds screened in last episode of Enterprise

Shows first look at the Aliens.

View the spot here

eveofthewar.com 3A_New_War_of_the_Worlds_TV_Spot_Now_Online

P.S Did anyone catch the TV Spot during Everybody loves Raymond, if anyone did do you think you could send it me at admin@eveofthewar.com or post it just on here.

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Post Posted: June 9th 2005 6:21 pm
 
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I'm really digging the soundtrack so far after listening to the preview clips.

http://www.soundtrack.net/features/article/?id=151


Post Posted: June 23rd 2005 9:36 am
 
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there's suppose to be some kind of media blackout on reviews for this movie. No reviews until it's released and they had to sign a weiver.

However, AICN has a semi review up now, apparently it runs under 2 hours! not sure i like that.


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you guys actually liked A.I.?

it was long, predictable, extremely boring with a dismal and tagged on ending to top off the crapfest.

if you want to see a movie about artificial beings trying to come to grips with their value and purpose see the grown-up version Blade Runner.


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you guys actually liked A.I.?


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ok, there's a few good scenes.

i'd give it a C- in my book.


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Re-read my last post! ;)

Actually there are FOUR WOTW projects going.

http://www.waroftheworldsonline.com/archives/250904til050105.HTM



Two low-budget productions, "Invasion" and the Pendragon flic (with the Pandragon one actually playing in 19th century England), the Jeff Wyne CGI movie in earlier production stages and finally the Spielberg movie.

"Invasion" obviously looks solid, the Pendragon thing... well, read some reviews on IMDb... :oops:


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well its out today.. whos seen it and watcha think?

any reviews up yet?


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Does anybody know if there wil be a battle scene between a US-Navy cruiser and several tripods in the Spielberg movie à la "Thunderchild" from the original novel?

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I doubt it. :|

Reviews:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war_of_the_worlds

Obviously a solid movie with a sappy hollywwod-esque happy end.


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Normally I could give a damn about reviews, but I liked that.


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BearaceDougie wrote:
well its out today.. whos seen it and watcha think?

any reviews up yet?


I am seeing tonight with my wife, who is a big Tom (I am really gay, but I have to take on a hot girlfriend/wife to make everybody think that I am straight)Cruise fan :whateva: , so I will post my review when I get home.


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As for the finale: You are NOT talking about the ending that is directly taken from the H.G. Wells novel; the way mother earth deals with the alien race... You are talking about the resolution of the family drama, right?

Anybody even remotely familiar with the original 1898 story knows the basic plotline of the war and therefore the ending, so there shouldn't be a surprise. Or am I wrong?

Any visible battle scenes or do the military conflicts only happen behind hills, in the background or out of sight?

WOTW received top notch reviews in some of the most important german newspapers (online) today. Many critics emphazise the holocaust and 9/11 allusions in the movie and the existentialist approach during the flight scenes. Are those critics disciples of Scientology or did they just overstate those subtexts?


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Well since this is the Movie Spoilers Forum, I shall post spoilers found on other sites and forums... From the SA thread:

The End:

Morgan Freeman reads this at the end of War of the Worlds:

“But there are no bacteria in Mars and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain.”

Cruise is doing his usual running man gimmick only this time with his fam whom he has tense relations with from time to time. There is blood and dead bodies everywhere. Bodies are seen floating down the river, people are shown shooting other people to get a seat in the last running car.

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Martian Tripods are vehicles that are *somewhat* impervious to Earth technological attacks. Tripods suck blood out of humans then spray it as 'fertilizer'.


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MasterWiYa wrote:

But it is because Spielberg always has to have a happily-ever-after ending that his films are successful.


I wouldn't say this is always the case. I don't consider Saving Private Ryan being a happy ending. The main character dies. And I consider that to be the best Spielberg movie.


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darthpsychotic wrote:
Morgan Freeman reads this at the end of War of the Worlds:

“But there are no bacteria in Mars and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain.”


I wasn't expecting much from this movie anyway, but now it sounds as if I may have expected too much. I know that this is how the book ends, but I really thought they'd do something a little more imaginative, or at least original.


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*taken from: http://www.themoviespoiler.com

New Jersey's Ray Ferrier (Tom Cruise) is a no-good divorcee who has to entertain his two kids, Robbie (Justin Chatwin) and Rachel (Dakota Fanning) for a few days, as his ex-wife is going to stay with her new hubby in Boston.

Ray wakes up one morning, hammered from the night before, and argues with daughter Rachel a bit about his son Robbie, who doesn't have his driver's license yet but who still took Ray's car that morning. The television's on and a news anchor is talking about 'magnetic storms' which have been seen all over the world. Then, the weather outside turns dark; Ray walks out and looks up, to see a maelstrom of black clouds. Lightning strikes close to his house, followed by another lightning strike, and another, and another. At first, Ray calls out Rachel to look at the lightning, but after a couple of minutes, Ray is hiding underneath the kitchen table together with his daughter. When the lightning strikes have stopped (after 26 strikes), Ray walks out into his garden again, and then returns into the house, only to find that all electrical appliances - including the fridge, the light, his mobile phone and even his wrist watch - have stopped functioning.

He then goes outside, telling his daughter to not leave the house. On the street, Ray finds himself surrounded by cars which all can no longer drive; he walks past his neighbor Manny, who has a car repair shop and who is working on an old Chrysler Voyager to get it to work again. Ray advises him to change some engine parts and bumps into his son Robbie, who tells Ray that he's sorry he took the car, but that it's no longer working, just like all the other cars. Ray tells him to go home and stay with his sister. He himself moves toward the part in the suburb where the lightning strikes struck, an intersection where hundreds of people have gathered with a few Police officers to look at a small, smoking hole in the pavement. Ray joins them to look, but suddenly, cracks appear in the pavement, and they seem to be coming from the small hole. The cracks quickly widen and lengthen and within moments, the entire intersection seems to be moving. Part of a church collapses and then there's suddenly an explosion of air and dust, with concrete slabs being thrown several hundred feet into the air.

When the dust is settling, a huge shadow can be seen moving in a giant crater. Suddenly, something that looks like a huge three-fingered hand reaches out of the crater, followed by what seems to be an oval kind of head. Then two more 'hands' reach out, and within a couple of seconds, the giant head is seen gaining altitude, and after a minute, Ray finds himself staring at a huge Tripod. The oval head looks a bit like an insect's head, with what appear to be two bellowing eyes, and it seems to be wearing some kind of huge helmet. In the front, where an insect's mouth would probably be, is a huge, blinding white light.

The hundreds of people around the intersection look on in awe, not so much in fear, at the machine which appears to be as high as the Empire State Building in New York City. Then two huge arms appear from the machine, with light green claws, and the machine starts emanating a sound, much like a giant dynamo gearing up. When the sound ends, a deafening "CLICK!" can be heard. Silence returns, but only for a few seconds. Then an even more deafening siren wails, reminiscent of a huge ship's horn.

Some people in the crowd start backing away, Ray included, and then the Holocaust begins.

Light-green rays suddenly blast from the claws and within moments, dozens of people are simply evaporated by the rays. The rays only seem to destroy the people's bodies, not the clothes; as the crowd runs for life, Ray is surrounded by evaporating bodies - people are simply turned into dust instantaneously, with only their clothes remaining. Ray, covered by dead people's dust, runs into a department store, and is almost hit himself; he runs into a woman who gets zapped and Ray can be seen crashing through the evaporated dust statue that was once a woman. Ray manages to flee the area while people and buildings all around him are being destroyed.

He reaches his house, where Robbie and Rachel are still wondering what the heck is going on. Once inside, Ray collapses, traumatized by what he just witnessed and because of the human remains - in the form of dust - on his clothes and in his hair. He quickly recomposes himself and tells his kids that they're leaving the house "in 60 seconds." They pack up, run outside and Ray orders his kids to take a seat in the Chrysler Voyager which Manny was fixing. Ray tries the engine and it works, but Manny - who is also unaware of what's going on - tells Ray to get out of the car, as it's not his. Ray tells Manny to get into the car or he'll die, but Manny won't budge, so Ray tells Robbie to close the passenger seat's door. Just when Manny wants to protest, Rachel looks behind her and sees the New Jersey Bridge collapse - Manny doesn't have time to witness that as he's zapped. Ray jumps on the gas and the car dashes forward while Robbie and Rachel witness dozens of people being zapped all around them.They reach the freeway where thousands of refugees are walking, unusable cars strewn everywhere, and Robbie and Rachel press Ray to take them to their mother, whose house is closeby. Ray, unsure of where to go anyway, agrees and he assures the kids that the attack isn't from European terrorists, but something "different."

They reach their mother's house but it's empty and they decide to spend the night in the basement. In the early hours of the morning, bright light is suddenly seen through the basement windows and crashing sounds rock the basement. In the early hours of the morning, Ray carefully walks outside and is confronted with the wreckage of a Boeing-747 which crashed right into the suburb, destroying several houses. He walks through the rubble and finds a network's camera team. A journalist tells him that the entire planet is under attack from aliens. They're everywhere, she says, and shows him footage of various cities. In one scene, multiple Tripods are seen destroying a city. She tells him that the Tripods had lain buried deep in the ground for probably thousands of years and that the lightning strikes had only delivered the machines' crews; she freezes a scene and Ray recognizes a silvery capsule that's being crashed into the ground by one lightning strike. Then, in the distance, a siren is heard wailing and the camera team skids off in their network's truck. Ray runs inside and brings out Robbie and Rachel, and they quickly move away from the suburb in the van.

Ray decides to use small roads to get to Athens, where he wants to take the ferry to cross the Hudson to go north, to Boston. When Robbie asks why Ray wants to take the small roads, instead of the much faster highway, Ray tells him that their car is probably the only one still functioning, and that "a lot of people will probably want to take this car." They pull over near a farm because Rachel has to pee and just then, an Army armored column drives by. Robbie goes ape and wants to join the soldiers in their trucks, which are moving toward the alien machines. Ray manages to stop Robbie from jumping onto a truck and they move on again.

They finally reach Athens at dusk and the small town is crowded by thousands of people who all want to take the ferry. As Ray moves closer to the boat, people start pounding the van, shouting that they want to get in to the car. Ray blows the horn a couple of times and some people jump on to the hood. Others use clubs to break some of the van's windows and Ray stops the car. He and Robbie are pulled out from the car and a fight breaks out. Ray is worked to the ground but then remembers the gun he brought from home. He fires two shots into the air and the crowd moves away from the car. Unfortunately, he isn't the only one with a gun; another guy puts his gun to Ray's head and tells him to drop his gun, which Ray does. The guy wants to take Ray's car and Ray says that's fine, as long as he can get his daughter from the back seat. The guy agrees to Ray's demand and Rachel is pulled out of the car by Ray, while at the same time, another man finds Ray's gun on the ground and picks it up.

While Ray moves his kids into a coffee bar next to the road, the van starts moving but is immediately attacked again by the crowd. Ray and the kids are stifled when they hear gunshots; outside, the man who picked up Ray's gun can be seen emptying the entire clip at the guy who moments before forced Ray to hand over his car at gunpoint.

Ray, Robbie and Rachel reach the ferry and they seem to be alright, when Rachel looks behind her (again!) and sees some large trees on a high hill move violently. She taps Ray's shoulder a couple of times and when he finally turns around, a Tripod is standing on the hill overlooking the town. The Tripod's siren wails while two more Tripods take up position beside the first one, and survey the crowded town with their blinding search lights. Pandemonium breaks loose at the ferry as everyone tries to get on board but the captain decides in a panic that it's time to move. Ray tries to get him and his kids and some of their New Jersey neighbors onto the boat which doesn't work as they're stopped in their tracks by soldiers. Ray guides Robbie and Rachel around the soldiers' blockade and manages to get on to the ferry. As the Tripods move closer and start zapping people, the captain hits the gas and the large ferry jumps forward. But it turns out that the Tripods can also be used under water. The captain sees a shadow below the surface and within moments, the Tripod is capsizing the ferry. Ray jumps off, taking Robbie and Rachel with him, and they manage to swim ashore. Once there, on a hillside, they witness other Tripods hunting down hundreds of running people on another hill and zapping away like mad.

Ray and the kids silently move through a forest as hundreds of shirts, blouses, pants and pieces of underwear come floating down.

Ray and the kids join a column of refugees and suddenly a batallion of tanks, armored vehicles and Hummers appear. They move forward to a ridge where other army units are trying to give some Tripods hell

Robbie goes ape again and screams that he wants to see what's going on as he wants to "fight back." Ray, however, knows that the Tripods have some kind of magnetic shields which make them invulnerable to any weapon. Robbie manages to pull away from Ray, though, and Ray leaves Rachel standing next to a tree and runs after Robbie. Meanwhile, an officer is seen shouting into a communications set, informing his bosses that none of their rounds is penetrating the Tripods' shields.

Another officer shouts that they have to keep firing to "buy the refugees down there some time to flee!" Abrams tanks move up on the ridge as well and start blasting at Tripods in the distance and while nearly on the top of the ridge, Ray manages to slam Robbie down to the ground, shouting that Robbie has to come down again so they can flee the area. Meanwhile, a concerned woman and their husband find Rachel standing beside the tree, and the woman thinks Rachel is an orphan. So while they're talking Rachel into coming with them, Ray is trying to convince Robbie to come down, but Robbie insists that he has to see "what's going on." Robbie demands that Ray let him go; at that moment, Ray sees the couple down below, who are trying to get Rachel to come with them. Ray has to make a choice and loosens his grip on Robbie, who immediately jumps up and runs toward the soldiers, who are still blasting away with everything they've got

Ray runs down the hill and grabs Rachel from the couple; just then, the Tripods seem to have come close enough for some good ole' fun and the entire large batallion is simply turned into one giant fireball within a fraction of a second. One of the Tripod's oval heads is dramatically seen through the fire while Ray picks up Rachel and runs further down hill. A man holding a riot gun shouts for them to join him in a farmhouse's cellar and Ray quickly carries Rachel inside.

While explosions, zapping rays and death screams can be heard outside, Ray and Rachel are introduced to Harlan Ogilvy (Tim Robbins), a former ambulance driver who tells them that he lost his entire family. Ogilvy seems like an OK guy at first but he's really a dangerous mixture of fear and anger.

After Rachel falls asleep on a couch, Ray joins Ogilvy for a drink. Ogilvy tells Ray that people in Osaka, Japan, were apparently able to take down some of the Tripods, but no one yet knows how. "If the Japs can do it, why can't we!?" Ogilvy demands, and he tells Ray that he should join Ogilvy in setting up some kind of a Resistance-movement.

Outside, the screams and explosions have died down and all that's heard is the mechanical, droning sound of Tripods. Suddenly, that sound stops, too, and Ray looks around in fear. Just when he wants to start moving again, a huge mechanical camera attached to a snake-like arm appears through a hole in the cellar's roof. Ray quickly wakes Rachel and they and Ogilvy hide from the camera, which is obviously trying to find out whether there are people hiding in the cellar. In a snake-like fashion, the camera moves through the cellar and although Ray and Rachel manage to avoid being seen, Ray suddenly sees Ogilvy standing next to the "snake" with an axe raised above his head. From the other end of the hallway, Ray silently begs Ogilvy not to attack the metal arm; Ogilvy is swayed and he silently joins Ray and Rachel in hiding

Unfortunately, while moving, Ogilvy throws some empty cans to the ground and the mechanical snake immediately reacts. Ray, Rachel and Ogilvy grab a huge rectangular mirror and hide behind it. For a few seconds, the camera observes itself in the mirror, and who or whatever is controlling the camera, decides to move away - until a muscle in Rachel's right leg decides to have cramps. Rachel's leg is stretched and her boot scrapes the ground. For a millisecond, Rachel's trembling boot appears aside from the mirror and the camera sees it. The "snake" quickly moves to see what's behind the mirror, only to find Rachel's empty boot. The camera then moves off again, out of the cellar.

Moments later, Rachel and Ray hear sounds; it was raining all night and with the broken water main in the cellar, a small water pool has formed in a lower part of the basement. Four aliens appear through the hole in the roof and one alien moves to the broken water pipe, to drink some of the water that's still spewing from it. The other aliens rummage through some boxes owned by the former inhabitants of the house; they show each other large photos found in a box, as if they were tourists. The aliens have large heads, large eyes, small mouths and thin black muscles bodies and long arms and fingers. Ogilvy goes Gung-Ho again and aims his riot gun at the aliens through a hole in a wall, but Ray manages to grab hold of the rifle. In an eerie silent fight, Ray tries to stop Ogilvy from shooting, as Ray probably knows that there are probably many more aliens and Tripods outside the house. He's right; just when Ogilvy manages to get control over his riot gun again, a Tripod's siren wails and the four aliens scurry away through the hole in the roof. Without saying a word, Ray and Rachel distance themselves from Ogilvy and fall asleep.

In the early hours of the morning, Ray is seen trying to wash himself at the broken water main when Ogilvy suddenly shouts "RAY! RAY! RAY!" Ray, scared that aliens might hear the loud voice, runs up to Ogilvy and sees him looking outside through a small basement window. Ogilvy walks off while Ray takes his place and looks through the window. It's then that Ray discovers that the Tripods have another function beside merely exterminating humans, as not all humans encountered are destroyed but are also "harvested."

The basement's window is shattered and Ray observes some strange red roots in the window sill, much like those of trees, and they're covered in what appears to be red oil, or something like that. Ray can't make out what the stuff is, much less where the roots are coming from, until he observes a man being thrown out of some container that's attached to a Tripod which is standing outside the house. The man falls to the ground and only his legs are visible to Ray as there's a car wreckage blocking his view.

From the Tripod then appears a slender arm with a huge kind of needle, which is then slammed into the man's back. The slender Tripod's arm then turns out to be some sort of hose and Ray sees the man's blood quickly move up through the hose and into the Tripod's metal head. A second later, the blood is spewed from the Tripod's mouth, together with some strange earth-like matter. "Fertilizer!" Ogilvy shouts from the back, "they're turning us into fertilizer using our blood!" Ray suddenly understands the horrible truth and he drops the small piece of root he had grabbed earlier, and tries to wipe the blood off of his hands. Meanwhile, Ogilvy seems to have gone completely crazy, shouting that "they're not going to get my blood! Not going to get my blood!" Ray runs toward Ogilvy and sees that he's trying to dig a tunnel with a shovel. Ogilvy tells him that he's digging the tunnel to reach the city which lies beyond the ridge mentioned earlier, so that they can escape and start the Resistance movement.

Ray now understands that Ogilvy has gone completely mad and implores him to be silent, but Ogilvy hits Ray with the shovel. Ray is momentarily dazed, but then stands up, walks back to Rachel, covers her eyes with a blindfold and tells her to cover her ears and sing a song and wait until he comes back. Then Ray is seen moving through the back of the cellar again, where Ogilvy turns around and watches Ray. Then a door falls closed and while Rachel sings her song, sounds of men fighting can be heard. A few minutes later, Ray appears again, cuddles Rachel and they fall asleep on the couch.

Ray is awakened several hours later by a high-pitched scream from Rachel, who's staring right onto a "snake camera." Rachel jumps from the couch and Ray grabs the axe earlier held by Ogilvy. Bashing away at the alien metal suddenly seemed a good idea because with about ten blows, Ray manages to almost sever the camera from the arm, which then withdraws itself. Ray then realizes that Rachel is missing and he runs upstairs as he can hear her scream.

Without thinking he opens the front door of the house, only to see that the entire area is covered with red roots; the aliens are clearly trying to turn Earth into a copy of their planet, indeed using the billions of human bodies as fertilizer. He dashes forward but is confronted with a Tripod. Just as it wants to grab Ray with one of its slender arms, Ray scurries into a pick-up truck, which is then picked up by the Tripod and rolled over a couple of times. Just when the slender arm wants to take Ray from the truck, Rachel is seen standing close to the truck and she screams. The slender arm then picks Rachel up and throws her into a container attached to the Tripod's head. While this happens, Ray runs over to an abandoned Army Hummer and finds a belt filled with grenades.

The aliens in the Tripod seem to have forgotten all about Ray as the Tripod moves away from the area, but Ray throws a grenade at it. The magnetic shield appears and the grenade goes off but doesn't damage the Tripod at all. The machine turns around and a slender arm grabs Ray; he is thrown into the container which holds Rachel and a bunch of other people. Just when Ray finds Rachel between the crying and panicked prisoners, a circular door below the Tripod's head and above the container slides open and a guy wearing an Army suit is pulled from the people kicking and screaming. The man disappears into the head and seconds later, another round of roots and blood is spewed from the front side of the Tripod. Almost immediately after, the door above the container opens again and a small slender arm appears, heading for Rachel. Ray jumps on top of Rachel and the arm takes Ray by the feet, pulling him up. Ray manages to grab the belt with grenades but just as he's about to disappear into the machine's head, another Army guy grabs his arm and screams at the others that they should help him pull Ray back. They succeed and as Ray lands head-first into the container's metal frame, he spits two pins from his mouth. The soldier sees the pins and screams "DUCK!", and the grenades go off inside the Tripod's head, which starts to disintegrate. The Tripod trips, ditches the container holding the people, and falls down.

The next scene sees Ray and Rachel moving up to the top of the ridge, only to find that the city they were expecting to find on the other end is completely gone. Only ruins and black smoke columns remain; the city is completely razed to the ground.

The almost final scene sees Ray and Rachel in a column of refugees as it enters what is left of Boston. They are accompanied by a group of soldiers and Ray sees red roots covering the streets and buildings - except for a bronze monument. The roots on it catch his eye and he moves closer to find that the roots on the base of the monument aren't red but gray and completely dried out. "What's happening to it, dad?" asks Rachel, and Ray says, "I don't know, it seems to be dying..."

Then he hears a rumbling sound and looks up, and sees a Tripod leaning against a half-destroyed skyscraper. Ray runs over to a soldier and asks him what happened to the Tripod. "I don't know what's up with them," he replies. "This morning their behavior suddenly became erratic, it's as if they've lost their mind. That one" - he points to the leaning Tripod - "just crashed into that building and stayed there."

Just then, a siren closeby wails and another Tripod appears from behind a large factory building. The soldiers quickly guide the refugees, including Ray and Rachel, into a subway. Ray watches the moving Tripod and squints as the machine's behavior seems out of the ordinary. It keeps on wailing, but the lights in front of the Tripod's head isn't blinding anymore and it sometimes seems to be losing power completely; the aliens piloting it also don't seem to know where they're going. Ray shouts at a nearby sergeant that there's something weird with the Tripod but the sergeant shouts back that he can't hear a thing because of the loud siren. Then Ray watches the Tripod again and suddenly opens his eyes wide. "Look at the birds!" he shouts at the sergeant, who rubs his ear and shouts "WHAT?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" back. Ray repeats his line a couple of times at the top of his lungs and then the sergeant turns around to see what Ray's pointing at. Just then the siren stops and Ray shouts, "Look at the birds!" A flock of ravens is shown taking a rest on top of the moving Tripod. "The shields! Their shields are down!" The sergeant quickly pieces 1 and 2 together and he calls for his soldiers to move up with their Javelin and Carl Gustav anti-tank missiles. They each fire a couple of missiles at the Tripod, which seems unable to do anything but try to scare off the soldiers using its siren. Then a Javelin missile explodes into the Tripod's head and the machine falls, crashing through the large factory building. As the dust settles, the soldiers and Ray slowly move closer to the Tripod's head, which is now on the ground, and a hatch in the front starts opening. A pink fluid comes gushing out through the hatch, after which slender alien fingers appear. After that follows an arm and the camera pans up to show the head of an alien, which lets out a small, high-pitch scream filled with hatred. Then the head drops and the alien is dead.

The final scene shows Ray and Rachel walking up to the house of Rachel's mom's new husband, and both he and she are alive and well. Rachel runs into her mom's hands and in the door opening stands Robbie, his clothes blackened and torn, but alive. Ray and Robbie hug and Ray then looks into the distance.

The epilogue shows a top-down view of an unnamed, half-destroyed city, littered with fallen Tripods, and while the camera zooms in on a gray tree branch with drops of water on it, a narrator's voice-over by Morgan Freeman says, "The aliens' machines were invulnerable to our weapons and technology. But the moment the aliens started breathing our air, drinking our water and eating our food, they were finished."

The epilogue ends with images of bacteria inside the drops of water.


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Just then the siren stops and Ray shouts, "Look at the birds!" A flock of ravens is shown taking a collective shit on top of the moving Tripod. "The shit! The shit's coming down!" A pink fluid comes gushing out through the hatch, after which slender alien fingers appear. After that follows an arm and the camera pans up to show the head of an alien, which lets out a small, high-pitch scream filled with hatred. Then the head drops and the alien is dead.

The epilogue shows a top-down view of an unnamed, half-destroyed city, littered with spattered Tripods, and while the camera zooms in on a gray tree branch with even more white spatters on it, a narrator's voice-over by Morgan Freeman says, "The aliens' machines were invulnerable to our weapons and technology. But the moment the aliens encountered birdshit, they were finished."


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Well, I haven't actually seen the movie yet so I can't say anything about the ending. I'll be seeing it tomorrow night. I have heard the 1938 radio play and if it ends like that then I wouldn't be too disappointed. I'm trying to stay away from spoilers though so I'm not reading every post in this thread.


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I thought the movie was brilliant.

You're watching things transpire from the POV of a single family. For the ending to not seem tacked on the entire plot would need to be changed. The movie is not as much about this alien invasion as much as it is the basic story of a family's struggle to survive.


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I thought it was a great movie but I agree the son needed to die.


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Nice summary. They skipped a detail of the river peeing scene that was mentioned in most reviews though... And at least they acutally SHOW aliens dying at the end. All in all it doesn't sound too bad and maybe I'll see it in a theater.

The survival of the son reminds me of Jurassic Park III - no, reminds me of every second Hollywood action flic. That's one of the reasons why I really liked the nihilistic Alien 3 (especially the Collector's Edition)!

As for WOTW, it's a pity that with our modern weapons systems it would have been a problem to show any vunerability of the tripods, like in the original novel, therefore the shielding technology.

À propos: I liked the scene of the failed nuclear strike against the aliens in the 1953 movie. No such thing in this version, obviously.

The tripod photo ^ is a joke, correct? :meatwad:


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I thought it was a really great movie. Like many have said, it is very intense... I had my back pressed up against the seat practically the whole film.

Dakota Fanning's performance is unnerving - no child should be that good. I usually hate him, but Tom Cruise was actually quite good in this film. I don't think much of him as an actor (or a person for that matter - not that I know him or anything). He doesn't seem to be able to diversify. All the characters he plays are the same - at least in recent times. I don't know wether it's due to type-casting or if it's something Cruise just brings to his roles... But here is quite a different character. Though there are typical 'Cruise' moments, I think for the most part he did well.

There are problems with the film though... The son's story arc: I just don't get it. Throughout the whole film it is shown that he has a great love for his sister, that she relies on him - moreso than she relies on her father. It's also shown that the son hates his father and thinks he's a bad father. It also shows that these tripods are virtually unstoppable. So then it begs the question of where the son's motivation comes from for wanting to leave his sister (who he cares a great deal about) with his father (who he thinks is a terrible parent) to go and fight these tripods (which are unbeatable).

Someone mentioned this before and I agree... If they were planning this 'extermination' for a million years, surely they would have thought about the bacteria being a threat...


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I thought it was great. The thing about them being here for a million years was really just speculation on Tim Robbins part wasn't it? There was no way he could have known how long they were sitting underground. Acually, the only real acual fact about the aleins comes from the news broadcasts of the lightning strikes in the Ukraine, and then the news van footage of an attack. As far as having the only working car, I did hear Tom Cruise's caracter say something to the mechanic that was working on the car, to try to fix something other than the starter, and then the next time you see him, he stated to Cruise, "yeah, you were right. That was the problem.", or something like that. As far as the ending is concered, I was happy that it stayed faithfull to the book, and about Cruise's son being alive...well, what did you expect, its a Spielberg movie.


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I thought the movie was great. The ending was OK, not great, not as dark as the rest of the movie, but I don't think it's that bad. The rest of the movie was so tense & brutal that ending it on the downer would have just been gratuitous. I didn't really think having the son not show up at the end would have added anything to the story - we just would have been left wondering what happened to him and if he'd show up later. The other option would have been to show his death, and that would have broken out of the whole "from his perspective only" thing that the rest of the movie used.

I loved the fact that this did not turn into a "destroy major landmarks in new & exciting ways" type of movie either. The aliens were not the focus of the movie so much as the story of this one guy & his kids. And he didn't have all the answers, he didn't save the world, he just survived.

I think sticking to the original story as mcuh as he did was a good thing too.


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Speaking of the only working car, I thought the entire mob scene was very well done. The scene where Cruise wakes up, (the "Holy Shit" look on his face was priceless), to a scene of thousands of angry people who will do anything to get his mini-van, even ignoring that his daughter was still in the car.
There are two scenes that still are stuck in my head. The first being when after the ferry boat leaves the dock, there is a wide shot of the street just packed with people, and in the backround, 4 tripods are walking towards them shining their spotlights on them. They really have no place to run. You don't see it, but you just know these fuckers are toast.
The second one is where people are being fried as they run down a hill, trying to get away from the tripods.


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Any visible battle scenes or do the military conflicts only happen behind hills, in the background or out of sight?


Most of the battle is out of sight, but there are a few small scenes here and there of helicopters launching rockets at the aliens (similar to ID4 when they hit the shields) and some infantry fighting in the city at the end..but the big stuff is over the hill and mostly out of sight.

I enjoyed the movie for the most part, but I thought they could have carried on the end about another 30 minutes...it was all over way to quick, your classic hollywood ending.

I was pretty dissapointed with Tim Robbins role all around.

I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars or 2 our of 4, depending on how ya rate :)


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However, my favorite moment, for some odd reason, is when the train goes shooting by completely spewing flames


And that right after Cruise tells his daughter that they (the aliens), have'nt made it out this way.[/quote]


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the most brutal part for me in the movie was what happened to the guy who car jacked cruze's minivan.

damn people suck...no wonder the aliens want us all dead.


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Saw it last night. I thought it was great. Very intense. I have read the book and heard the radio play so I thought that the movie would probably end this way. But I have to agree with some people, someone in the family needed to die. It was just too easy. I mean everyone else on the planet lost numerous family members (at least the people we saw on screen seemed to) and the Ferrier family loses nobody? C'mon.


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i never read the book so i'm not so sure about the red veins but Spielberg should have gone into a little more detail there and at the ending. there seemed to be a lot of stuff left unexplained and left people guessing that hadn't read the original story.



I like that those sorts of things weren't explained and because we're following a bunch of joes who don't know what's going on, we shouldn't know anything. It's the type of thing that SHOULD be explained if we're following a group of scientists or the US Army who's trying to figure out the hows and whys, but this movie isn't about that. You can pretty much infer for yourself what they are - Aliens use humans as fertilizer for their own food, and I haven't read the book.


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The tripods were scary cool.:meatwad:


I liked them better than the alients themselves, but I thought I was watching Half-Life 2 - The Movie! at first ;)

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And someone tell me if I'm wrong here, the reason the aliens started dying off was because they weren't immune to the various bacteria that had grown on the planet since they "planted" themselves?

Also, if they've always been here, why didn't they just take the planet when they got here, before humans evolved? What were they waiting for?


The bacteria thing was, I think, an oversight on their part. I guess that it would be something new from when they were last here, or else the deposited the machines remotely. That was a new wrinkle from the book I believe. I think in the book they land the ships when the invasion starts. That's the way the '53 movie was anyway.

As for why do it now & not before, I was thinking that they needed a high enough population density to use us as food and/or a catalyst for the terraforming they started.

I think the biggest plot hole was the machines being buried a long time. You'd think we'd have found one over the years. They must have been quite deep or else were somehow built from the pods that came down, but that seems a stretch too.


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For what it's worth, I saw the aliens as vicious creatures who not only wanted to use humans for food, but also wanted to kill us as some sort of game. They vapourize millions instead of harvesting them, so why would they do that if not to 'prove something' to us? Almost like they waited for us to reach the peak of our arrogance and bring down the hammer.

Bacteria has existed a billion years on this planet, so the whole "they got here before it developed" theory is kind of dry. Either they shipped their tripods remotely (which is what I think happened) or they came to drop them off and then left before they were affected.

I don't think the tripods not being discovered is a plot hole.
a) They were probably burried way below the level our technology could detect
b) Why would we be looking for it to begin with (too much forsight to assume we would have found something we weren't looking for)


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For what it's worth, I saw the aliens as vicious creatures who not only wanted to use humans for food, but also wanted to kill us as some sort of game. They vapourize millions instead of harvesting them, so why would they do that if not to 'prove something' to us? Almost like they waited for us to reach the peak of our arrogance and bring down the hammer.


Good point about the sport aspect, hadn't really thought about that.

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Bacteria has existed a billion years on this planet, so the whole "they got here before it developed" theory is kind of dry. Either they shipped their tripods remotely (which is what I think happened) or they came to drop them off and then left before they were affected.


Bacteria mutates very quickly. What's around now probably is very different from what was around in the distant past, even not so distant in some cases.

I've read (many years ago) that scientists think (or used to think) that this scenario would be unlikely b/c the ecosystems of an alien world would be so radically different that germs that evolved in one environment couldn't interact with a creature from the other enviroment. Could be they just made the same assumption and it wasn't correct.

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I don't think the tripods not being discovered is a plot hole.
a) They were probably burried way below the level our technology could detect
b) Why would we be looking for it to begin with (too much forsight to assume we would have found something we weren't looking for)


Well, not so much that that we were looking for them, but I was thinking more along if the one guy's thinking was accurate and that this was planned millions of years ago they'd have to worry about the land masses moving & bringing them up or something. But then, I think he was wrong and that this was probably planned at most in the hundreds of years range.

And there are people digging very deep holes & using sonic imaging and the like in the search for oil & mineral deposits. Maybe they were all placed near larger cities somehow rather than randomly.

Anyway, not really important to the movie, just random speculation. I just thought that having them there was the weakest point, but it didn't really detract from the quality of the movie.


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