LOL

guys, I have to admit, I wrote that fake spoiler in an AICN talkback to see what kind of reaction that would get. it's under the latest Terminator trailer post and my screen name was nooneimportant which was my myspace name! that's why it matches up with my posts above. I was thinking about how this one could end and I made up an ending.

it isn't going to happen this way because Reese is way too young in this movie. we'll get a lame ending instead..

small world, huh?

Ha! That's a good one. Sounds plausible enough, though.

This movie still looks great. Allthough, Bale seems to be the same character in every movie. Which is okay, it works for a lot of people. The only problem with T3 was that Mr Conner was indeed written as a man with no balls. And Arnolds first five minutes. Other than that, I liked it. This one does looks better though.

I am however confused about one thing. Who is the guy at the beginning of the trailer asking "What happened here?". I don't get it. But then again I've only been loosely following along, I'm busy and shit. Maybe it's obvious and I'm just missing something.

he is a guy rumored to be named Marcus that was on death row but something happens and he "wakes up" in the mud after Judgement day not knowing what happened. It is thought he was experimented with and turned into some kind of cyborg. an in-between a human and a terminator. he still has his human brain. this causes John to assume he IS a terminator.

that's the rumor on him anyways.

Excellent!

People seem to like your idea, BV. It sure sounds a lot better than the rumors about that silly ending with the terminator wearing Connor's skin.

where else have you seen it my fake story quoted at?

and it was reported today that they're so pleased by the response to the latest trailer that they're starting pre-production work on T5 now..

Sent you a PM. This is the Wiki page for the movie for anyone interested. Terminator: Salvation


They got this pic as the teaser poster. It is the pretty much the same pic at Apple trailers. There are some differences with the smoke.



http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/

wonder "who" the blacked out image will be???

Here is another look at the poster:



Got it and some photos over at Cinematical

BELOW: new spoiler toy pics that here confirm what we suspected.

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that Playmates is a shitty toy company!







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Okay, that's Marcus in the first pic, right? Then who's the dude with the robo hand in the second pic? It's not John, is it?

And, yeah, those toys are shitty.

It seems Danny Elfman has been chosen to score the movie.


That is an interesting choice and the source is this.

BELOW: BIG update from Latino Review There are more pics at the link!

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[align=left]The first clip we saw, was more like and extended version of the opening moments of the latest trailer. A disorientated Marcus Wright played by Sam Worthington asking a young Kyle Reese (Anton Yelchin) what year is it and what happened here, followed by that familiar shot of John Connor shooting a crushed Terminator in the head with his assault rifle. We a get a glimpse of Connor and his troops rappelling to the ground but that's about it.

The meatiest clip presented was an action sequence involving Marcus and Kyle set at an abandoned gas station. Marcus, Kyle and a young child arrive to the seemingly abandoned location only to be confronted by humans who emerge from hiding with their guns drawn. As Marcus gives Kyle the signal to leave and old woman played by Jane Alexander says "Not before this young one has something to eat." One of the men replies with anger, gun still drawn: "You're giving them our food? That's our fuel. What gives you the right?"

Suddenly one of the men gets pulled through the ceiling, followed by another. There's a Terminator outside, and HK, Hunter Killer, only it doesn't look like anything we're familiar with. There's been controversy that it resembles one of the robots from Transformers, but McG stated that Skynet's army starts off bulky and like a sports car, gets leaner, meaner and better before becoming the streamlined T-800. The visual effects were unfinished, but this Terminator is impressive

As the giant HK rips through the gas station the entire group is flung through the air. (wearing stunt cables that will obviously be digitally removed later). It grabs humans from the ground and drops them into a holding pen containing several others inside one of the flying HK's we are familiar with. Very similar to how the tripods captured humans in Spielberg's 'War of the Worlds'. Part of the group attempt to escape by car only to be blasted to smithereens by the robot from a great distance.

Marcus and Kyle manage to maneuver a gas tanker under the robot's legs and ignite an explosion by shotgun from the back of their tow truck while speeding away. It looks like the HK is down for the count, but it quickly emerges from the smoke unscathed. The HK robot is too large and lumbering to properly pursue Marcus and Kyle in the tow truck so it's lower legs quickly open with a motorcycle HK emerging from each one. These are the new cycle Terminators we saw in the trailer and they are pretty cool. We get a couple of pov shots in Terminator vision where one of them navigates the road to avoid wreckage. Kyle manages to drop an oil drum and detonate it with the shotgun to stop one, but the other is still in pursuit. Their only hope is to drop the winch from the tow truck and use it like an anchor to get this Terminator on wheels tangled up. They manage to succeed and finally the pursuit is over. Or so they think. Just as they reach a massive suspension bridge that flying HK pops ups again, cruises ahead of them and blows out the middle of the bridge before cutting to black.


The third clip is a confrontation between Marcus and John where we get a greater glimpse of what Marcus really is or what he might be. Connor is flying a helicopter at night over a lake surrounded by burning trees. He yells "Do you see him?" to one of his men in the back, implying that maybe Marcus fell overboard. As he drops a line into the lake, a Terminator in the form of a robotic eel, pops out and pulls the man in the water. He dies rather quickly while John is under attack with many of these things bursting through the cockpit to get him. After bailing out, John searches the lake on foot with his assault rifle while we get p.o.v. shots of his legs underwater with more of those eels hunting him. John manages to get off a few rounds to evade a few, but just as it looks like one is about to get him, Marcus emerges from the water in slow motion grabbing one and destroying it.

Marcus has injuries to his face and torso exposing a metal endoskeleton much like the superficial damage Arnold would suffer from in the original films. Though at this stage of production his wounds consist of tracking markers on his face. John's ready to shoot Marcus till he says "Kyle Reese is in Skynet. You need me, I can get you in! Connor at this point knows what this guy is, but with his adolecent father now held captive by the machines must make a deal with "the devil" to get him back.

"Why should I trust you?" Connor asks. "Because I need to find out who did this to me and so do you," Marcus replies. As Marcus slowly backs away hands raised over his head, Connor still pointing his gun at him asks "What are you?" Marcus: "I don't know."

The final bit of footage is a montage of clips, some we've just seen and some seen in the trailer. One moment shows Connor apparently making an announcement over a CB radio. "This is John Connor. We are being hunted by machines working nonstop around the clock. If you are listening to this. You are the resistance!"

Another bit of footage involves Connor taking orders from his superior General Ashdown played by sci-fi vet Michael Ironside ("I'm gonna suck your brain dry!"). McG states that though Connor becomes the leader of the resistance he starts off here as a subordinate, a foot soldier just taking orders.

Ironside: "John Connor! The prophesied savior of humanity."
Connor: "Skynet is collecting humans for R&D. They are manufacturing human tissue."

McG states that all the Connors, Sarah, John and Kyle Reese have always played the outsiders in these films and are always waving their arms trying to get people to listen to their ideas to save humanity while everyone looks at them like they're loony. There is apparently a plot point involving a raid on the Terminator manufacturing facility devised by Ashdown. The T-800 that we are all familiar with is coming and Connor discovers it is ahead of schedule.

Connor over the radio to the assault team: "Abort the mission the game has changed!"

Ashdown: "Negative, do not abort. Stay the course!"

Connor: "If we stay the course we are dead! We are all dead!"

Additional clips include young Kyle Reese telling that old woman and young child: "Stay alive. Here," Points to his head. "And here." Points to his heart.

It probably takes some time for Marcus to discover he's been altered into some type of cyborg since he appears to have a romantic relationship with a girl in the form of fighter pilot Moon Bloodgood. She gets to show her skills at combat in a brawl with a few rough types as well as one or two physical stunts you may have seen in the trailer.

We also get to hear John's voice saying "This is not the future my mother warned us about." Apparently something in the timeline has been altered. As he stares at the classic photo of Linda Hamilton that Kyle Reese carried in the original film we hear his wife (Bryce Dallas Howard) say "If you saved us in another life, you can save us in this one."

In one of the final shots we hear her say "We've never seen anything like this before," followed by Bale staring past the camera at something in awe saying "The devil's hands have been busy."

A few extra tidbits I remember:

This is the first Terminator film where there is no time travel involved in the story. Marcus is apparently from the past (our present day) and has been altered somehow.

Even though this film tells the story of John Connor it is very much the story of young Kyle Reese and how he becomes a man. Many of the classic lines Michael Biehn spoke in the original are revealed to stem from Kyle's brotherly relationship with Marcus. The first film was about the preservation of Sarah Connor, the second and third about the protection of John. This one is about the protection of Kyle Reese.

This film honors the Terminator 3 storyline, but not the current television series. Judgement Day occured in 2003.

McG stated that they created their own film stock for this picture. They took an old film stock from Kodak and reprocessed it with five times as much silver to give the world a gritty post nuclear event look.

When he started the presentation at stage right was an actual full size bulky T-600 that moved it's head and had glowing red eyes. ("The 600 series had rubber skin") This was an early version of the Terminator that Kyle Reese told Sarah Connor were easy to spot because of their rubber skin.

He chose to bring the late Stan Winston aboard because he wanted as many of the robotic effects to be real and not CGI. (Much like Nolan did with his visual f/x in 'The Dark Knight.") McG said he missed a time when in the late seventies and early eighties even the big event movies were good movies and that he wanted a sense of realism with the f/x to serve the story.

Though this is a male oriented film, like the original it is full of strong female characters like those played by Bryce Dallas Howard and Moon Bloodgood.

McG wouldn't give details about how Arnold might appear in the film or whether or not he was in the movie at all. All he would say was "We're working on it."

He actually went to chat with Cameron on the set of 'Avatar' and even played around with his 3-D digital camera system. He assured Cameron he would honor the mythology and handle the story in a respectful manner. Cameron was pretty frank and said he couldn't blindly get behind the movie, but he understood that McG must feel as he did when he followed Ridley Scott with the second 'Alien' film.

Sam Worthington who also stars in 'Avatar' will apparently play Perseus in the upcoming "Clash of the Titans" remake.

Danny Elfman just signed on for the score. McG considered director Alejandro González Iñárritu's collaborator Gustavo Santaolalla for the earthy-humane part of the score and Johnny Kilmek or Reinhold Heil for the cold machine aspect. Couldn't get Hans Zimmer but actually met with original Terminator composer Brad Fiedel who know runs a surf shop. He didn't want to repeat Fiedel's work with Cameron so brought aboard Elfman who will give it a Wagnerian quality as well as use most of Fiedel's themes and ambient sounds.

The first scene (not shown to us) features Marcus in the present day, in prison and about to be executed. He cares little about the world or himself. They cut to black and he wakes up in 2018 to a world ravaged by war. During these events he re-discovers what's worthwhile about humanity. The film is a vehicle to show what's best about humanity hence the title "Salvation".

Well, all I can say is that even though I don't care much for these types of advance presentations, I didn't feel like I was at a trade show or watching an infomercial. McG made a great pitch, but didn't come across as arrogant or like he was b.s.ing you. My optimism for the final product has not only increased, but I look forward to the potential it has to become a new trilogy.

Maybe by the third film (and when his term is over) they can bring Arnold back as a special Terminator needed to assist John to destroy Skynet once and for all. Just a suggestion, but with this glimpse of material that seems promising, the possibilities for the evolution of the story seem endless.[/align]
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it looks like written underneath is "T-600, T-700, Marcus, T-800"
Marcus seems to be the missing link from the bulkier versions to the streamlined Arnold T-800.

mp3 of Christian Bale going bats nut insane on the set a few months back cause some lighting dude walked in on the scene. NSFW: mp3 link

HA! Nice, I don't blame him for going off. The sound people and shit are dumb asses when they're walking on a scene right when they're filming. It's totally unprofessional on their part.

Is that real? Jeez. who was recording that? laffo

"I hope it was fuking good!"

"someone should keep an eye on him!"

"stay off the fukin set man... for fuks sake"

"lets not take a fukin minute..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

"Im gonna fukin kick your ass!!!"

"your a nice guy... your a nice guy" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Is that Saturday Night Live?

TMZ was the one with the scoop. they didn't say who recorded it but it is legit. the tape was sent to the films insurrance company in case Bale bailed on the movie, they could use it as lawsuit evidence. DrudgeReport is linking to this story now too!

There's really no excuse for that kind of outburst over some stupid accident. He acts like the dude punched his sister or something!

Maybe he raped his sister.

HAHA Hilarous! good laugh.

/film has a new pic of the T-600. looks ok.

Gotta give them props to staying close to the original model design.

I guess somebody couldn't get a reservation at Dorsia. "McG" must be one hell of a fucking shitty ass director to allow something like that to go down. No actor is going on a tirade on the set of my movie.

Christian Bale sounds like an asshole. Fact is there's probably no control over the putz at this juncture in his career. Between this and beating up his mother, I think he needs to be starved and sent back to a Japanese detention camp to sing Welsh songs and hunt pheasants. Ass. Michael Keaton is still the best Batman.

If Bale's in the middle of an emotional scene that involves conjuring up emotions at the drop of a hat and the DP wanders around in his area of vision messing with the lights, that's going to be distracting. If the DP repeatedly does that it's gonna get someone really pissed off and apparently it did.

Oh and you should also hear the Bale out dance remix!

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Christian Bale soundboard

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Anyone get the feeling that Bale somewhere thinking "Christ this happened LAST YEAR!"

How many takes are trashed everyday because of an "oops", or even just an uncomfortable clash of styles. Maybe he's jacked up on meth. Coke heads are usually a little uppity like that too. Speed freaks of any kind are usually irritating as fuck, to me anyway. His drug dealer should have a talk with him, if for no other reason than to protect his own long term interest in his client. Because that mother fucker is either high or nuts to be talking to people that way.

Not to mention the obvious. In every Christian Bale movie, he is in fact, Christian Bale. Inserted into a different situation and told he is someone else. His acting was never that fucking deep. He's not James Dean. He should calm the fuck down.

Careers like his usually only work out, long term, if everyone doesn't hate your fucking guts. But who am I kidding, he's rich enough to think his shit don't stink.

(insert goofy batman voice) This film needs an asshole Mr Bale sir, and you can be that asshole, if you chose too. Sir. Please dont hit me. Again.

Harry from AICN is defending Bale, saying basically that the DP had it coming! I say bullshit, that was "McG's" job to get control of the set. If Bale kept having problems with the dude, then McD should've fired him. But he probably couldn't since he's probably union so the only answer was to scare the shit out of him!

In other news, AICN is also reporting that the Wired story from a few days ago has info that is over a year old and quite a bit of the designs have changed.

Yeah, I actually thought it was kind of messed up on Bale's part to call the DP unprofessional when his antics were equally so. Either way, work is work and we're all human. I mean who doesn't get steamed at their co-workers every once in awhile?

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[align=left]"If you are working in a very intense scene and someone takes you out of your groove but was the most emotional scene in the movie," said Franklin. "And for him to get stopped in the middle of it. He is very intensely involved in his character. He didn't walk around like that all day long. It was just a moment and it passed."

"This was my second movie with Christian and it has always been a good experience with him," added Franklin, who also worked with the actor on 2000's Shaft. "He is so dedicated to the craft. I think someone is begging to make some noise about this but I don't think it's fair. The art of acting is not paint by numbers, it's an art form."[/align][/spoil]

Terminator Salvation assistant director and associate producer Bruce Franklin has now gone on record with E! Online with a proper explanation for what happened - Bale’s outburst was okay because it was the most emotional scene in the movie

Well I still don't blame Bale for going off on the dude then with the associate producer basically backing up Bale. If the DP dude had it coming to him then he deserved it.

I just can't believe what a putz Mc G was. He's not even going to back up his lead star?

He didn't. Nobody deserved that under the circumstances. Bale insanely ranted for, what, 5 minutes? McD and everyone were left incredulous. My favorite part was when he said "we're done, professionally." As if they're going to get together for cocktails when he's not making movies where he plays virtually the exact same role. Pretentious asshole.

The whole production has been embarrassing enough already as evidenced by the usual excellent updating of this thread.

I don't remember hearing about her but IMDB and the wiki page have Helena Bonham Carter listed as the main villian "Serena Kogen".

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[align=left]Helena Bonham Carter, who just joined the cast of McG's upcoming Terminator Salvation, confirmed to SCI FI Wire that she plays a villainous character in the SF prequel. "I kind of play a baddie, definitely a baddie," Bonham Carter said in an interview while promoting her new film, the comedy-drama Sixty Six. "I don't know how much I'm allowed to say, but I'm a very bad person."

Bonham Carter is a new addition to the cast of the film, which already includes Christian Bale, Sam Worthington, Anton Yelchin and Bryce Dallas Howard. Bonham Carter (Sweeney Todd) replaced Tilda Swinton at the 11th hour and will work a total of about 10 days on the film, which is currently in production in New Mexico.[/align][/spoil]

I'm guessing this has something to do with Marcus' character and how he was turned into a cyborg. Let's hope she's not some Terminator "queen" like the Borg or something.

So looks like we will be having Arnold back for a fourth Terminator Film. Although its not much im glad that its comeo, better then nothing.

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[align=left]Speaking at the NYCC, "Terminator Salvation" director McG confirmed Arnold Schwarzenegger's involvement (not that it'll require Arnold to do anything more than to look into a pair of those immobile spec set-ups like in "The Sixth Sense" so someone can replicate him) in the upcoming $200m movie sequel.

Io9 have a video of McG answering the 'Will Arnold be in the movie or not?' question.

"The T-800 plays a big part in this movie", the filmmaker says, adding that they're trying to recreate a young 'Schwarzenegger', via visual effects, for the film. "We've been heading up to ILM in San Francisco to address this very issue. I don't want today's Arnold - I want [younger] Arnold, when he tormented Bill Paxton [in the first five minutes of "The Terminator"] and we will see what we can do about that".

So yes, sounds like we will see some version of Schwarzenegger in the film - - - depending on how successful the geniuses at ILM are.

The site also reports seeing a sizzle reel of footage from the film. Among new scenes seen were clips of Michael Ironside, who plays the leader of the resistance.

''Ironside plays the the actual leader of the resistance, and someone who's sick of dealing with John "Promised Savior" Connor'' says the site. ''In the reel, JC is yelling at Ironside to stop the big attack that the resistance is planning. Plus, he tells him all about how Skynet is gather up humans for "R and D" and learning how to replicate human tissue. Oh yeah, and we're all doomed and all that jazz. What I really love about all of these edited clips are the fact that still no one believes the Connors, even though you think they would (after all the things they've been through). Then again, who's going to listen to some foot soldier with an (allegedly) lunatic mom?''
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new character busts were shown at toyfair and MTV has a video revealing them with Marcus' face all terminatorfied:


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Linda Hamilton is in negotiations for voiceover work. MTV

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[align=left]“We are talking,” Hamilton told us during a wide-ranging conversation for her Movie Badass selection. “I haven’t read it yet. I don’t know what direction they will go in.”

While she awaits the specifics in a script, Hamilton already knows what her role generally would be. “My contribution would be voiceover,” she said. “I would probably be very happy to loan my voice depending on what the material is. Wait and see. They’re already writing it. We’ve been negotiating it.”

News of Hamilton’s likely involvement jibes with word coming out of last weekend’s New York Comic-Con, where “Salvation” director McG intimated that her participation in the reboot is essential. “She’s the greatest,” he said of Sarah Connor, adding that as an integral figure in franchise mythology, “one can imagine she plays an important role.”

Since he first began discussing the project and showing early footage, McG has been winning fans among the “Terminator” faithful for his commitment to honor the original films—a stance that Hamilton didn’t feel the makers of “T3” took. “They offered me a part,” she said. “I read it and I knew my character arc was so complete in the first two, and in the third one it was a negligible character. She died halfway through and there was no time to mourn her. It was kind of disposable, so I said no thank you.”

“I think [director] Jim [Cameron] was pretty clearly not going to be involved with the third one,” she continued. “His partner had sold the rights to the third one. Then they came back to Jim, but it was so far along after the fact that he’d moved on. And I wouldn’t be involved with it if it weren’t Jim Cameron. The third one was all right but it just didn’t have the heat and excitement that Jim can bring.”

Of course, Cameron isn’t involved in the fourth “Terminator” either. Like many fans, however, Hamilton seems to be giving McG’s new version the benefit of the doubt. “It would be great fun,” she said.[/align]
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the underlined part was interesting to me. Cameron and Linda were married between 1997 and 99 and they have a daughter together. She took quite a big chunk of his Titanic money in the divorce. one idea that I've heard passed around is having her identical twin sister do her part if she refused. She'd be a real bitch to keep her from getting that payday.

I don't understand why there is a preview of a preview floating about the internet but there is. :S

Terminator 4 preview

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Looks freakin' sweet!

so there's a new trailer online tomorrow apparently that will be with Watchmen. There was a panel at Wondercon with everybody and some new things were said. Read it here AICN

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[align=left]The trailer, which McG promised will “kick your balls up into your ass,” starts out a bit like the badass teaser trailer for TERMINATOR 2, with an assembly line of endoskeletons. I could be wrong, but they looked like T-800s… might be the T-700s we’re hearing so much about.

Anyway, there’s a voice-over by Christian Bale as John Conner saying the humans are outnumbered as we see glimpses of the deserted wastelands and then what looks to be a giant warehouse sized pen with humans like cattle crammed into it. Then we see Bale speaking into a CB, continuing his speech and saying, “If you’re listening to this, you’re part of the resistance.”

Then he continues on to say how humans are being captured by the machines now, studied… all in an attempt to replicate human tissue. We see the same stuff we’ve seen before, the giant robot hand picking people up

Then we see some new footage of Sam Worthington badly injured, brought in to the HQ. He’s on an operating table and we see his point of view as Bryce Dallas Howard starts working on him. Her eyes widen as she cuts through his shirt, stunned by what she sees.

Then Common hits us in the face with his rifle and when it fades up again it’s Christian Bale brooding at us.

The next shot has Sam Worthington chained up, out of focus in the background, his chest exposed, but blurry… obviously hints of metal can be seen. Bryce is talking to Bale saying “This is something we’ve never seen before.”

Worthington says his name is Marcus Wright and Bale responds, “You think you’re human?” Worthington says, “I am human.” Bale looks at him for a beat and then moves, in releasing the chain binding his head, allowing Worthington to look down at his chest. He lets it sink in then screams.

Then we see a scene at a lake, which I’ll describe later as they showed that whole sequence. But Marcus is in the lake and Conner is screaming at him from the bank. “What are you?!?” “I don’t know.”

The trailer is winding up for the big finale at this point, seeing scenes of Mad Max-like chase between the heroes and the motorcycle terminators that look a lot like the deathcycle Freddy Kruger turns into in one of the later NIGHTMARE films, but what I hadn’t seen before was the conclusion to this chase, taking place on a bridge as a Hunter-Killer flies overhead and blows the bridge. The tow-truck driven by Marcus with Kyle Reese onboard slams to a stop and swerves, swinging one of the terminator cycle things via the crane around and slamming into the H-K as it’s aiming its lasers at the vehicle.

The coolest parts of the trailer were seeing what looked to be T-800 endoskeletons fighting. The effects looked shockingly great. I never in a million years would think that I’d like CGI terminators, but they looked fantastic… their fluid movement and types of actions the only thing giving away the effect. Like we see a throw-back to T1 with the upper torso of an endoskeleton crawling after someone, pulling itself along the ground. And in another shot we see a full head to toe shot of what looks to be a T-800 model jumping down a step in a cramped, heavily mechanized (but dirty and rundown) room.

The final shot is Marcus standing in the darkness, half his face burnt away and the endoskeleton showing underneath. He looks to camera and says, “I’m the only hope you have” as the Terminator theme kicks in and we see a high aerial shot of a machine landscape… two explosions happen and we see it’s the poster art, with the explosions being the Terminator’s eyes and the landscape forming the rough shape of the skull.


Gas Station Chase footage:

The first thing I noticed was the score, which was very much Brad Fiedel’s Terminator music… very mechanical, a lot of clanging of metals, but ambient. It’s a quiet scene, as our heroes (Worthington, Anton Yelchin and a little girl they’re traveling with) stop at an abandoned gas station to fuel up. Even though it’s a quiet scene, the underlying score gave me a bit of a geek-boner.

My instinct is that it’s temp score from the previous films and not Danny Elfman’s score from the film, but I hope I’m wrong. I’ll be very happy if Elfman delivers a score that relies so heavily on the type of music that came before it.

The heroes load their weapons and investigate the store, looking for supplies. Kyle Reese senses someone is there and they’re surrounded by scavengers, human survivors aiming weapons at the group and yelling for them to not move. An old, white-haired lady steps up and says they will not leave until the little girl has been fed, showing some kindness in this world. This starts a fight amongst the group, but it’s clear this woman has some pull.

A subtle vibration fills the room and a bottle shatters… suddenly, one of the scavengers is clutching his bloody throat, and the giant harvester arms shoot in, grabbing people up, starting with the white-haired old lady.

The scavengers scatter, trying to drive away, but each vehicle that tries to escape gets blown to bits by the giant machine, which does indeed look a tad like Bay’s Transformers, but more real-world mechanical… Like when it stands tall, the machine lets out exhaust, like a big rig.

The harvester stores the people in itself and after it thinks the escapees are all dealt with, it puts the humans into a Hunter-Killer that lowers out of the sky.

Reese stops Marcus from driving away in an armored tow truck, seeing that everybody who tries gets blown off the road immediately. So, the hit up a tanker that still has gas left in it, and they devise a plan… Knocking the cap off and spilling gas in their wake, they charge the tanker through what’s left of the gas station at the feet of the giant harvester as it’s unloading the freshly plucked humans and dumping them into the H-K.

I guess the tanker was attached somehow to the tow truck as they ram it into the machine and then drive away, Kyle Reese shooting at it, but it doesn’t explode. The harvester has recovered from the impact and is trying to free itself from the crumpled tanker and the little girl, sitting between Reese and Marcus, offers up a flare. Marcus throws it out the window at the gas trail and it ignites, setting off a huge explosion that takes the gas station with it… Not sure what happened to the people, but I assume they didn’t just say, “Fuck the humans being put into the H-K… kablooey!”

Anyway, their victory is short as the Harvester walks through the fire, not damaged much, but giving them enough time to speed out of range. Two of the moto-terminators branch off of the harvester and give chase.

Oh, and we see Terminator vision earlier on in this scene as the Harvester targets the escaping vehicles… red and graphicy, like in the original movies.

Anyway, then we get the big chase scene, including one of the big shots of the new trailer, which is a car hit by the tow truck flipping over and into the path of the chasing moto-terminators. We see Terminator vision again as the moto-termintor scans the car about to hit crash into it and lays down almost flat, the front wheel swinging around back and the back wheel now front, narrowly avoiding the wreck.

Kyle Reese shoots at the chasing robots with this shot gun as the little girl loads another weapon (I really liked this aspect… gotta love kids taking action in these kinds of movies) that Kyle eventually uses to blow one of the pursuing moto-terminators.

The other is taken out by the hanging tow chain, which has a large ball on it… it’s released and Marcus swerves, causing the ball to get caught in the moto-terminator. Now it’s dragging behind them, unable to regain control… then they get to the bridge and the scene I was walking about at the end of the trailer, where the tow truck is confronted with an H-K and it slams to a stop, sending the moto-terminator on the chain at the H-K, damaging it.

There was some language in the footage, but I don’t remember if there were any F-bombs, just some “shits” and a “goddamnit” or two.

Scene #2, the water terminators:

This scene takes place at night, a stark contrast to the chase scene, which was in harsh sunlight.

John Connor is in a helicopter as they approach a small lake. On the shore is a small strip of trees that are on fire, illuminating the scene. Somebody leans out and drops a red flare into the water. Connor calls out, “Do you see them?” as the guy leans outside the chopper looking down, seeing the redness of the flare bright under the water.

A long, squid-like machine jumps out of the water and clamps onto the guy leaning out, sending the chopper into a spin that ultimately has it crashing into the water. We get a Wilhelm Scream from the guy attacked by the hydrobot, by the way.

Connor’s side of the chopper is above the water. He reaches in to the water for his co-pilot, who is taken by the water terminators, leaving only a bloody pool where he once was.

Connor jumps out into the waist-deep water, trying to get to the shore. He has his automatic rifle up in an instant, swinging around and shooting at the surface of the water as a half-dozen of these machines come for him.

The angle cuts back and forth from above the water (over Bale’s shoulder) and below the water (behind Bale’s legs) as we see these terminators taken out by his fire and sinking dead in the water, while more swim up.

He nails all but one as he runs out of ammo. The hydrobot is almost on him when Marcus jumps out of nowhere and wrestles it into submission. This is Marcus from the end of the trailer, half his human face gone.

Bale has a pistol out. He doesn’t trust him. “I know what you are, even if you don’t!” Marcus replies, “That gun isn’t going to stop shit!” Connor says, “No one’s shot you in the heart and I see that thing beating a mile a minute.” I couldn’t see it, so maybe that’ll be in post, that Marcus has a human heart somewhat exposed in his chest cavity. That makes sense. I’ve heard that his character is a kind of hybrid terminator/human thing.

Before Connor pulls the trigger we find out from Marcus that Kyle Reese is captured and is in Skynet. If Connor kills this terminator he’ll never be able to rescue him. Marcus says he can get Connor in and we get the “I’m the only hope you have” line from the new trailer. He says he needs to find who did this to him and Connor lowers the pistol as Marcus backs into the water. “What are you?” “I don’t know.”

So now lets get onto the panel.

- It was McG, Anton Yelchin, Bryce Dallas Howard, Common and Moon Bloodgood.

- McG said he wants to know something about Moon and she replies immediately with “34C”

- Turns out she’s not far off. McG wanted the audience to cheer on whether or not we want to see her breasts in the movie, which I can only imagine was incredibly uncomfortable for the girl. Apparently, he was trying to show the WB people that the crowds and fans want boobs (ie R-rated) in their Terminator movie.

- McG is dedicating the movie to Stan Winston

- To much laughter, Anton Yelchin talked about worshipping Terminator growing up and that that he hopes this new film “honors the legacy of the two films.” I’m with him. Terminator 3 doesn’t count.

- McG dropped that Skynet is gathering all these people in order to rip their stem cells out of them, using that as their main study for replicating human tissue.

I didn’t attend the roundtable, but I hear McG dropped a lot of info there, regarding the Governator (he was very unspecific on the panel) and his involvement as well as a possible involvement of Robert Patrick in the next film in McG’s Terminator series.

TheArnoldFans.com spoke with McG at Wondercon and McG told us he loves the CG Arnold and it's good to go in the film. He also told us that Robert patrick will be in T5 as a 60 year old scientist!

McG at last gave TheArnoldFans.com confirmation that Arnold will be in T4 and that he is blown away by the ILM Arnold footage by academy award winner Charlie Gibson.

TheArnoldFans: Let's talk Arnold. What's the latest with the ILM footage. How does the young CG Arnold look?

McG: Ah, it looks reeeeeaal good. (McG confesses and sounds totally impressed and proud at last). Arnold just saw the movie two nights ago.

That's right Arnold fans, you heard it; because Arnold liked very much what he saw with Terminator Salvation and his CG likeness, he scheduled a call-back for the director. Arnold wants to do business!

McG: I'm going to see him AGAIN shortly and we're going to discuss what he wants to do and to what degree.

TheArnoldFans: And he'll possibly record more dialogue?

McG: yeah!

Our next big exclusive comes from asking about the return of the T-1000 played by Robert Patrick! We will have the return of the T-1000 but McG told me we'll have to wait until Terminator 5 for him to come back as a clone!

TheArnoldFans: Will we possibly have a return of Robert Patrick in a CG form?

McG: Funny, I talk to Robert Patrick with great regularity. It's interesting and i'll bounce it off of you guys (McG begins to lower his voice and leans in closer to me so the other press tables don't hear). I mean, I like the idea and the perspective for the next picture that you meet Robert Patrick the way he looks today...and he's a scientist that's working on, you know, improving cell replication so we can stay healthier and we can cure diabetes and do all these things that sound like good ideas...and to once again live as idealized expressions as ourselves. So imagine seeing a 60-year-old Robert Patrick and KNOWING 'holy shit' that's GOING TO BE the T-1000 who comes back perfect, lean and the whole thing (McG makes the T-1000 "naughty naughty" finger swaying movement). I haven't concluded that but Robert and I had dinner the other night.[/align]
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So to sum all that up, new points are:

• CGI T-800 fighting and jumping and looking quite badass.
• Terminator 3 is pretty much being forgotten, at least by the cast
• Skynet is collecting all these people to study how to grow skin by using their stem cells
• Moon Bloodgood has 34C breasts and might be shown during the movie if they can get a R rating

• CG Arnold is looking AMAZING, Arnold has seen the movie and was so enthused about it, he's wanting to do more voicework

• There have been extensive talks with Robert Pactrick and he'll be in T5!
He'll be playing an older scientist looking for a way to cure disease through cell replication.
Skynet apparently uses his technology to make the T-1000.

new posters released! yahoo








Holy FUCK new trailer up! yahoo movies is that NIN music in the background?

Didn't get the OMG feeling in my gut like last time but I loved the track over the top of this trailer. Combined with the grime I got a true sense of post apocalypse from this film for the first time.

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Oh hell yes the new trailer looks bad ass. I can't wait to see the film.

I’m excited to see this movie. All the reports I’ve read sound great. I’ve been hoping for a better view of skynet’s machine society and this movie seems to be delivering what I’m interested in seeing.

new poster up

new MEGA-spoiler image from Latino Review Don't look if you don't want to see the Big Bad for the movie

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Heh, she always plays the messed up ones.

Rated PG-13



Pizza-Hut Tie in scroll to bottom of page to see rating. now some are saying Pizza Hut jumped the gun and it hasn't been rated yet. not likely though.

I hope we at least get to see John Connor ver. 8.0 trash the fucking lights.

I can't see a movie like Terminator being a PG-13 movie. It's always been rated R because of the swearing and ultra violence. I doubt Salvation will be an exception to that.

new gorgeous T-4 production art found at sarahconnorsociety.net inluding Skynet renders!

I like the idea of John hacking his way through Skynet. Nice throw back to T2.

After finally seeing this extended trailer, I must say I am hyped for this movie.

Christian Bale seems to fit the part and I almost forgot while I was watching that he even had that blow up. The movie seems to be bigger than he is and he is able to (hopefully) add to the overall quality of the film. Love that it seems this isn't just some shoot em up, kill all the machines blah. But that there actually seems to be a decent plot with good effects and a good acting.

I will definitely be seeing this in May.

This looks kinda fan-made, but then again the current state of movie marketing
is in the crapper.