Anyone else heard anything about this?? I have heard rumors for a while about a draft, but is that really what this bill says?? I haven't read it, but if it's true, WTF?? I got bill's, can I get 'drafted' by some private security firm instead because Army pay sucks.

From rense.com (with official congressional linkage )

Mandatory Draft Bill
Snuck In - To Be
Debated 6-6-6
6-4-6


On February 14, 2006, Congressman Charles Rangel (Democrat - NY) introduced a bill (Universal National Service Act of 2006 - HR 4752 IH) aiming at drafting everyone - men and women alike - from the ages of 18 to 42 into the military for a minimum period of 2 years.

Or to quote the bill: "To provide for the common defense by requiring all persons in the United States, including women, between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes."

The House is to convene on June 6 (06/06/06] to debate and possibly adopt this bill, that is, unless a vast public outcry succeeds in derailing this insanity, which you can do by writing a letter of protest to your congress person through

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm or http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html

Phone calls are even better. The numbers of all US Representatives are at:

http://clerk.house.gov/members/index.html


If you question the validity of this bill, go to:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtex ... =h109-4752 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.4752

Scarily appropriate?

Yeah, this will go over really well:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/19/ ... index.html

Top Democrat: Bring back the draft

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

New York Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars. He believes a draft would bolster U.S. troop levels that are currently insufficient to cover potential future action in Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft, and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose a measure early next year.

In 2003, he proposed a draft covering people age 18 to 26. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42. It went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the November 7 mid-term election.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel.

He also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

Polls show most Americans oppose a draft
Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military is strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973.

The Selective Service System, an agency independent of the Defense Department, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 -- now about 16 million -- from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

There will not be a draft. It has been proven a non-drafted army has better morale and fights better than a drafted one.

Even though, with the new info that's coming from US Generals about the 3 war choices, Go Long, Go Big or Go Home it does make you wonder.


Fuckin politics.

Famous last words.

Well, there wont be a draft at least until the Dems have the WhiteHouse AND the Senate. If Hillary wins in 08, you might as well strap up your boots and get ready to breath some Iraqi air. Im 28 so it wont affect me either way. 18-25 gets drafted

This just in:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/22/draft. ... index.html

And this in the article "The agency is not gearing up for a draft, an agency official said Thursday. The test itself would not likely occur until 2009."

I still don't believe there will be a draft. With Bush out of office in 2008, no one knows what the future is going to be in regards to the war.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/ ... index.html

Have fun kids. Unless things do a 180, I'd say any timeline given by draft board bueracrats trying not to get bad press is completely speculative at best. And currently, things are headed to a bad place. If the US "illionare" class decide to push that segment of our poulation willing to be courageous to low enough numbers, do not assume that because it would be unpopular that a draft wouldn't happen.

And here's the real rotten part, if it did occur, wtf are you going to do? If you go ahead and go, fine. I say that's the only real option. If you are an objector, now you have the opportunity to witness the wrong doing you are bitching about, plus now you have a gun and a chance to do something about it. But what if you are in debt or have a mortgage, and the soldier-pay isn't going to cover you're payments? If soldiers got paid $250,000 a year, I'd fucking volunteer.

Running away doesn't seem to be an option either, but regardless of the draft - if Hillary gets elected in 08', I'm becoming a Mexican. Maybe I can be a supervisor at an American manufacturer down there if I brush up on mi espanol.

I say we just nuke everyone over there and let god sort em' out, fuck the towel heads. Then make sure Hilary don't become President because you know if she does this country is going to major shit, more so than it is now. Then take all the fucking illegals round em' up and deport them back to Mexico where they came from and make sure they're not allowed back into the US, basically keep close tabs on those fuckers. Lower gas prices, taxes and other bullshit they raised on us because of greedy sons of bitches that like to take advantage over people. Seal up our borders between Mexico and the US tightly so no one sneaks through and if someone tries to shoot first and ask questions later.

Edit: I for one can't join the Military because of my medical conditions. When I was in high school whenever those fuckers called all I had to do was get my mom on the phone and she'd tell them my medical history and they'd hang up the phone. They won't take someone who has a heart condition and that can basically die any day.

Any nuclear attack by a major world power would result in global thermo-nuclear war. Anyone with them will launch them as soon as they realize what's happening. That is a very, very bad strategy. As far as them being "the towel heads", and that racist generalization being justification for destroying all of modern civilization, I say people that actually entertain that notion (and there are many), don't fully grasp the implications of what they are saying. But then again, wtf do I know.

Plus, why would the oil-slicked former executives running the halls of Washington nuke such a plentiful source of black gold? Who is going to go there and suck it out of the ground when the whole area, if the world survived, woul be be contaminated for years?
Bad business decision also.